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torres09
post Dec 31 2024, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(chaukeng @ Dec 31 2024, 11:32 AM)
This I dun agree. I think we do have a product on the pitch. That's the system we play, the culture we build and the atmosphere surrounding players. Even though intangible, but it means whenever a new player comes in they are more likely to play well than not. We only have to look at manu to understand what this means.

Regarding this statement 'we should be challenging every year' goes back to my earlier argument. How important are these titles or trophies mean to the club owner? They own the club, not us. We are Liverpool fans, they are not. We have to understand from their point of view what owning Liverpool means to them. If sustainability and profit are their main priorities, then there's no chance we should expect them to go all out and risk it, just for a higher chance of winning trophies that will mean not much to them ( prize money aside).
with Liverpool it's always not so much about transfer fees but more consideration on weekly wages. Player's wage affects sustainability more than a one time transfer fee. So concurrently renewing all three players contract for around 300k each (and the subsequent effect of having players like Diaz and konate knocking on the door and asking for 200k and above will be disastrous for the club if somehow, unexpectedly we do not see success on the pitch after their renewal.

Can we confirm consistent success after all three renewal,no. Are we a club that can afford to have so many players on high wages and not having enough prize money? The answer is no too.

If we are looking for the after effect of breaking player's wage barrier. We only have to look at the Salah renewal three years ago and how taa and van dijk are asking for the same numbers
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I am a supporter and a fan and I crave success. Do MU fans want trophies or sustainability? How do you guarantee the "sustainability" model does not mean the owners taking out extra profit for themselves like what the glazers are doing?
I do not want to delve into what the owners or the accountants think. Liverpool as a club, as a fan base, we are big enough to stomach this and in my humble opinion I do not think the trio are asking astronomical figures. If Salah gets 400k, and Diaz or Gakpo want equal, ask them to prove themselves long term of coming up with the goals and assists like Salah. If they can, why not? This is the last fat contract that we giving our top player anyway.
New fans and supporters in new markets look to support winning clubs. Not clubs that constantly challenge but win nothing. Ask a neutral today, would he/she support Liverpool or Manchester United, all terms being equal?
Maybe Salah scoring a hattrick with Trent providing 3 assists and Virgil keeping a clean sheet this weekend will change some minds, if they have not signed for another club by then.
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post Dec 31 2024, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(chaukeng @ Dec 31 2024, 07:26 PM)
Like I said, what we want and what mu fans want are irrelevant. FSG owns Liverpool FC, they decide what they want to do with it.

FSG will be looking at Manu and casemiro as precedence. Handing out a huge contact for an ageing player and are now stuck with him after his decline (can't sell, and no extra wage budget for new player). Once we hands out huge contract to players, current or new players will know LFC is willing and able to pay, then the demand will all come. For instance we've signed someone like Nunez on 120k per week, whereas mu has signed Antony on maybe 180-200k per week. Now both players are not performing up to expectation. There will be no less suitor for Nunez on maybe 40-50m at 120k per week. But who will take Antony for 200k per week? Now that Antony is stuck and not performing, mu needs to go and sign another replacement and also pay him 200k per week. It's a vicious cycle and more so for a club like LFC who is on a self sustaining business model.
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Ok let's agree to disagree. To compare Casemiro who is from La Liga to someone who has performed at the highest level for 8 years for us in the EPL is not a fair comparison at all.
Let's see if the fans are happy with sustainable 1 title in 10 years. While City recover from their mini slump, and teams from 6th to 12th consistently catch up with the top 6.

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post Jan 6 2025, 06:19 AM

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Wanted to wake up to watch but missed. From the highlights it was a pretty even game, VVD with the great chance at the end would probably have snatched it.
Here's hoping MU keep to their form this season. I think they lost 3 on the bounce after a good result (win) against City last time.
Still 6 points lead and game in hand, let's take 1 game at a time. Not easy especially when it's a huge rivalry match and the opponent is super pumped up for the occasion.
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post Jan 11 2025, 09:11 PM

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The weather looks to be very cold, pitch looks very hard as well. 2 good goals, Endo looks natural in CB but Tsimikas and the kid on the left not offering much. Hope to see Chiesa on the right and Jota or Nunez on the left.
If second half can keep clean sheet is good enough for me. Expect Szobo, Jota and possibly TAA to be hooked before the hour mark.

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post Jan 11 2025, 10:13 PM

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I wonder what is going through Nunez mind now. Danns playing with so much enthusiasm and getting his goal after trying to assist Chiesa, the Chiesa himself getting on the scoresheet.
But good assist la for the opening goal, laid it on a platter for Jota.
Btw Jota just cannot defend. Always ball watching and luckily AS didn't score with that free header he allowed them.
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post Jan 15 2025, 06:03 AM

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Missed the match, but since City and Chelsea also dropped points this is a valuable point seeing we came from behind in away match against high-riding Forest.
On to next match!
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post Jan 16 2025, 07:16 AM

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Chiesa is not ready for EPL away game against top 3 team in the league. All due respect, he scored and looked very promising against Accrington Stanley a League Two team whose only goal was to score at Anfield and didn't park the bus.
As long as he stays fit, keep working hard, he will be a very good asset off the bench and then who knows maybe start 1 or 2 games here and there.
Jota is our most clinical striker but sadly he breaks down after too many minutes so need to be managed wisely for game time. I notice he gets hooked around 60-70 min mark even if he played decently as a starter, probably because no more gas and as precaution. Darwin was supposed to be our main striker but we all know how dependable he is in front of goal.
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post Jan 16 2025, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jan 16 2025, 02:27 PM)
Or maybe suarez and salah on the wings, Torres in the middle and Gerrard at the back, wow.
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But Paul Konchesky, Christian Poulsen and Sebastian Coates at the back haha
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post Jan 19 2025, 01:06 AM

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Didn't watch the full match, but managed to catch the goals. Was already dreading 3 draws in a row.
To be honest Nunez was shite before he scored. But TAA went into Stevie G mode at the end and laid it on a platter for his first. And his second was surprisingly full of composure taking out the defender before lashing it in.
Brought back images of his winner against Forest last season.

Oh and from what I saw, Konate was a beast as well today.

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post Jan 20 2025, 06:20 AM

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Great weekend for us, unfortunately Spurs couldn't come back and nick a draw, wouldve been perfect. I want to see Everton relegated damn.
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post Jan 27 2025, 12:15 AM

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Damn Spurs bottle lead against lowly Leicester. Would've been good for them to win and leapfrog MU to put them under more pressure going into their match against Fulham.
Really dunno what happened to Spurs this season. Surely big Ange is gone after this latest home defeat
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post Feb 1 2025, 11:59 PM

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Clear penalty although the TV angles couldn't show it. Normally you can almost judge from the defender's reaction, and Lewis Cook didn't protest much.
Overall bad game from us, although we scored one, had more shots and more shots on target. Right side of defence is in shambles, not sure what happened to Konate today, seems rattled. If tactics don't change, surely kena bocor by Semenyo and Kerkez.
I would put in Endo for Szobo, Darwin for Diaz and Harvey for Macca.
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post Feb 2 2025, 01:03 AM

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Stupid of Jones to think he has default control of the drop ball. Just freaking pass it to our players, the opponent is not going to wait around seeing the loose ball while you decide what to do. Little things like this could mean us dropping points in future and you can argue how you want after the opponent puts the ball in the net, it's not going to be overturned.

Good 3 points but average performance. Bournemouth missing their chances and we have a finisher named Salah. That's about the only difference.
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post Feb 7 2025, 04:06 AM

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Sooka not showing?
Damn woke up for nothing. I thought yesterday they showed New-Ars

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post Feb 7 2025, 04:16 AM

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QUOTE(msiabole10 @ Feb 7 2025, 04:11 AM)
How to turn to TVS channel?
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post Feb 7 2025, 04:27 AM

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QUOTE(msiabole10 @ Feb 7 2025, 04:23 AM)
On sooka go to home, click live tv, scroll down to all channel, choose TVS
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Wow thanks bro. Why hidden but put pop up banner still for New-Ars match yesterday haha. Really facepalm

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post Feb 7 2025, 04:34 AM

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Have a feeling Nunez gonna score a worldie after missing 2 chances in front of goal
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post Feb 7 2025, 04:58 AM

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Good bench to call upon some extra firepower if scores stay level on aggregate.. Diaz Jota Chiesa. Maybe will be Jota to break Spurs heart again
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post Feb 7 2025, 06:03 AM

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A very good performance I must say. Now to rest some players for the weekend and go for Merseyside derby.
Szobo looks to be back at his best form and position, Gakpo has a knack for being at the right place at the right time, Salah is just being Salah, and Virgil what a deserved goal and standing ovation.
Get that contract signed with Salah and Virgil FFS!!
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post Feb 10 2025, 01:10 AM

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Our frontline just clueless today. Especially Nunez coming on and appearing everywhere but in front of goal. Chiesa was the only one trying and that's why the action followed him when he was on the right then on the left.
MoTM performance by their gk and well deserved. We didn't have the runners from midfield and only started threatening when they got tired and bet their lives on defending hence conceding midfield space to us.

The silver lining to this is we lost this early. If there is one game we can afford to lose this season, it will be this game. Every point will be priceless in the league, we're in the knockout phase in UCL and we will want to win the league cup final. I can understand Slot not bringing his big guns for this game as what we had on the pitch is definitely able to win this.

Everything will be well if we take the 3 points at Goodison and go 9 points clear.

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