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post May 30 2024, 10:08 AM, updated 2y ago

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Hong Kong taxi drivers should join Uber’s ride-hailing service if they cannot beat it instead of demanding authorities outlaw the operation, a lawmaker has said, with others calling for a robust legal framework to manage the sector better.

Lawmaker Michael Tien Puk-sun told cabbies to consider joining the company’s Uber Taxi service as he weighed in on the latest debate over the use of ride-hailing services in the city.

He said about 11,000 of the 16,000 urban taxis in the city were already on the platform, adding that some were earning an extra HK$10,000 (US$1,300) in monthly income, according to his understanding.

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Much like the company’s regular service, Uber Taxi allows passengers to book rides directly with an upfront price instead of using a meter.

“The complaints were made by those who did not join. To me, if you can’t beat them, join them. If all the drivers join Uber Taxi and it turns out the demand is larger than the supply, the government should grant more hire-car permits,” Tien said.

“If their idle time has not reduced after they join, then I agree to outlaw Uber private cars. It is just a very simple concept to tackle the situation.”

https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanp...ons-experts-say

2014 ke? Msia Grab dah lama won taxi, even beaten Uber.
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post May 30 2024, 10:09 AM

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Was Uber MY good? I wasn't really aware of them before
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post May 30 2024, 10:14 AM

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if im not mistaken, uber or ehailing is illegal in hong kong. probably to protect the taxi drivers as they paid a lot for the taxi permit.
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post May 30 2024, 10:15 AM

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uber in HK is not cheap at all
and their taxi have to adhere to all regulations and rules

no one is winning over who at the end
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post May 30 2024, 10:15 AM

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HK taxi license cost few millions leh, u think the big boss holding taxi license will cincai give in?


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post May 30 2024, 10:17 AM

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post May 30 2024, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(Ayer @ May 30 2024, 10:09 AM)
Was Uber MY good? I wasn't really aware of them before
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it was good when they give alot of high value voucher rm5, rm10 , few every week , makes my trips around almost free , until they went off with grab
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QUOTE(Ayer @ May 30 2024, 10:09 AM)
Was Uber MY good? I wasn't really aware of them before
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post May 30 2024, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Matchy @ May 30 2024, 10:14 AM)
if im not mistaken, uber or ehailing is illegal in hong kong. probably to protect the taxi drivers as they paid a lot for the taxi permit.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 30 2024, 10:15 AM)
uber in HK is not cheap at all
and their taxi have to adhere to all regulations and rules
no one is winning over who at the end
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those uber drivers better beware
taxi drivers in hk all crazy or gangster or both sweat.gif
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post May 30 2024, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(Ayer @ May 30 2024, 10:09 AM)
Was Uber MY good? I wasn't really aware of them before
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Grab had to throw prices to compete with Uber. laugh.gif
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post May 30 2024, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(zenix @ May 30 2024, 11:19 AM)
those uber drivers better beware
taxi drivers in hk all crazy or gangster or both  sweat.gif
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they even go "undercover" to report the uber driver.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/transpo...l-ride-services
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post May 30 2024, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Ayer @ May 30 2024, 10:09 AM)
Was Uber MY good? I wasn't really aware of them before
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back then uber > myteksi...

uber black was cheap enough... often get camry/teana grade car...

after grab took over.. grabcar premium also sometimes get c-segment car... recently from airport i got sylphy... renault fluence...
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post May 30 2024, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(Ayer @ May 30 2024, 10:09 AM)
Was Uber MY good? I wasn't really aware of them before
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Yep..i prefer uber more..
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QUOTE(Ayer @ May 30 2024, 10:09 AM)
Was Uber MY good? I wasn't really aware of them before
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Used it in the early days...driver was really professional...cars are clean and comfy..no funny smell unlike others...
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post May 30 2024, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(Matchy @ May 30 2024, 11:43 AM)
they even go "undercover" to report the uber driver.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/transpo...l-ride-services
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HK people have become very rowdy

QUOTE(kons @ May 30 2024, 11:48 AM)
back then uber > myteksi...

uber black was cheap enough... often get camry/teana grade car...

after grab took over.. grabcar premium also sometimes get c-segment car... recently from airport i got sylphy... renault fluence...
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but the majority was cheapskate
then uber exited and grab monopoly the market sweat.gif
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post May 30 2024, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ May 30 2024, 12:20 PM)
HK people have become very rowdy
but the majority was cheapskate
then uber exited and grab monopoly the market  sweat.gif
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hopefully other country still can use uber..

i use uber as my daily ride in ksa...
in stockholm i also use uber.. screw arlanda express.. the t-centralen station still not connected to the tube/metro.
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QUOTE(kons @ May 30 2024, 12:23 PM)
hopefully other country still can use uber..

i use uber as my daily ride in ksa...
in stockholm i also use uber.. screw arlanda express.. the t-centralen station still not connected to the tube/metro.
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uber was supposed to be the mcdonalds of taxi
u can go any country and use the same app to get transport
grab killed tat with their biz tactics
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post May 30 2024, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ May 30 2024, 11:19 AM)
those uber drivers better beware
taxi drivers in hk all crazy or gangster or both  sweat.gif
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plotex gang also lah

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 30 2024, 12:40 PM)
plotex gang also lah

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and deswai uber is gone
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QUOTE(niwde @ May 30 2024, 10:17 AM)

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Most of the taxi drivers in Hong Kong are psycho. They spend almost every second inside the taxi every day complaining. Quite detached from the society and real life as listening to the radio is the only window towards real life. They also only interacted with their own unhealthy circle where they will only talk about passengers behind their back with other bad taxi drivers.
In this video for example, the driver clearly don’t have other civilized social skill to express his anger but allowing himself going to the extreme by threatening the customer/passenger with a weapon. This is why Uber is more being accepted by the local residents as the price between the two doesn’t have big difference but with much much better service from Uber.
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QUOTE(zenix @ May 30 2024, 12:42 PM)
and deswai uber is gone
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uber is gone from south east asia because grab churned out more vouchers to customer last time, basically killed your competitors

In 2013 and 2014, Grab entered the Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam and Indonesia, each time beating Uber by a few months. Its aggressive use of consumer promotions and provider incentives, however, drained much of the US$85.3 million that it had raised. To continue its growth, Grab drew US$250 million in funding from Softbank in a relatively early large-scale investment.

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 30 2024, 12:47 PM)
uber is gone from south east asia because grab churned out more vouchers to customer last time, basically killed your competitors

In 2013 and 2014, Grab entered the Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam and Indonesia, each time beating Uber by a few months. Its aggressive use of consumer promotions and provider incentives, however, drained much of the US$85.3 million that it had raised. To continue its growth, Grab drew US$250 million in funding from Softbank in a relatively early large-scale investment.

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they did it at a loss
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post May 30 2024, 01:25 PM

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Even china got didi... dunno why hk still stuck with taxi.
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QUOTE(cytyler @ May 30 2024, 10:26 AM)
it was good when they give alot of high value voucher rm5, rm10 , few every week , makes my trips around almost free , until they went off with grab
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Give almost every ride, then surprise Pikachu bankrupt?
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QUOTE(zenix @ May 30 2024, 12:37 PM)
uber was supposed to be the mcdonalds of taxi
u can go any country and use the same app to get transport
grab killed tat with their biz tactics
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grab was cheaper than uber... ultimately uber demise.

but once grab monopoly... the price become more expensive now...
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post May 30 2024, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(kons @ May 30 2024, 04:26 PM)
grab was cheaper than uber... ultimately uber demise.

but once grab monopoly... the price become more expensive now...
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and they still recording losses laugh.gif

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post May 30 2024, 04:41 PM

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post May 30 2024, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ May 30 2024, 04:36 PM)
and they still recording losses  laugh.gif
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our money is too small to make any profit.

especially when u are operating out of sg.... salary also more expensive there.

took uber from stockholm arlanda to office.. 800 kronors.. about rm 400 here.

took uber from riyadh airport to hotel... 120 saudi riyals.. about rm 150 here..

in malaysia grab car plus only charge rm 75++ from city to airport..
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QUOTE(kons @ May 30 2024, 05:42 PM)
our money is too small to make any profit.

especially when u are operating out of sg.... salary also more expensive there.

took uber from stockholm arlanda to office.. 800 kronors.. about rm 400 here.

took uber from riyadh airport to hotel... 120 saudi riyals.. about rm 150 here..

in malaysia grab car plus only charge rm 75++ from city to airport..
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it doesn't matter
global economics is pay at local currency

e.g.
red bull in malaysia RM3.50
red bull in vietnam (after convert) RM1.00 margin still better than malaysia
why?

it is all about volume, business plan and business model
the currency is irrelevant.
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post May 30 2024, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(Ayer @ May 30 2024, 10:09 AM)
Was Uber MY good? I wasn't really aware of them before
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yes la

they were slashing prices left right centre

then came Softbank big boss say fuck you Malaysia and Singapore, commands Uber to move out and let Grab raise back prices.
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post May 30 2024, 06:43 PM

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The more the country protect their taxi permit, the more they get screwed by e hailing.

Bangkok traditional taxi still survive due to open competition.
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QUOTE(EX Unseen Forces @ May 30 2024, 10:08 AM)
2014 ke?
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not sure year, but date confirmed is 18 jan

 

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