Did you go private local or did you go private international?

Well my cousin received a full ride scholarship to a very reputable Ivy League, and she's from SMK. AFAIK most Ivy Leagues are extremely generous with financial aids, especially Harvard. I'm pretty sure this is very well known.

I don't know what you mean by "shitty" schools. Most students in in any school don't end up in Ivy League. There's plenty of very good schools equal or better or almost as good. On top of my head - UCB, UCLA, UChicago, CMU, MIT, Stanford, UW, UMich, UT Austin, NYU, GATech, Duke, JHU. There's more obviously (I only named the US ones). Any of these schools are top-notch schools and they are by no means easy to enter (program dependent of course).

The average Asian universities are equal? Probably yeah. But you're not going to convince me the top Asian schools are as good as the top ones in UK and US.

Anyway, most private school students don't go to US, so I highly doubt you'll find a lot of them going to Ivy Leagues anyway. Most people are not going to study for SATs (or ACTs) regardless.

I still hold my opinion private schools prepare you way better to enter top UK/US schools, and no I'm not talking solely from cultural perspective.

I should also add in another point that is potentially irrelevant. Plenty of MARA students both in UK and US including in the top schools. Whether you believe me or not is up to you, but my personal observation is this - those that actually was able to make full use of their education and actually get a good career going have almost always come from international school students. Solely speaking from their career head start or achievements (not daddy dependent kind of career) on those who studied overseas, International school students > SMK > SMJK > MARA (from what I've noticed at least). I should also add on JPA scholars have always seemed to underperform relatively to international school students. Again, I'm solely talking about their career. This is entirely anecdotal, so it's up to you to believe.

PS - calling Americans too stupid to study is kinda wild lmao. American education has always been holistic based. Has nothing to do with "too stupid to study". That's how it has been for a very long time. After all, the Ivy League is literally a sports league. You know going to universities is more than just studying right? lol

This post has been edited by trojandude: May 28 2024, 03:49 PM

This is some old skool OG yo.

all those A wont prepare them for the working environtment.

the real or last chance is in university.

private local

well i dontk now about ivy leagues

well I'll give you an anecdote about uk unis.
"top" unis in the uk are extremely easy to enter, because they want you to enter to give them their exorbitant school fees. i had offers for uni of edinburgh, bristol, warwik, kcl. all of them charged around rm120k per year wihtout scholarship. and the funny part, is that i dont think i worked especially hard for a levels to be able to get those offers (and dont talk about personal statement, i just wrote 3700 characters of narcissistic self dick sucking) - my cousin worked way harder than me for stpm which is a lot harder than a levels, to go to no ranking usm. it is a money issue. i ended up accepting ntu offer since its a lot cheaper.

This post has been edited by Police4896: May 28 2024, 04:27 PM

I was b40 growing up

Cina family Kaya, so F### SPM, got inheritance got biz got daddykasi.

Tahfiz miskin, so must getting 11A get tongkat into GLC, JPA.

#####done claim

BI yes very the simple because spm level is about middle school English at the most in English speaking countries

BM not as simple but because it's graded on a curve like BM and many people take it (same can be said for BI), it brings the average down so easy to score.

People can study better

Study = do past year questions

During my time, you can look at the answer options and guess the question after doing so many past year questions.

to be fair boarding school pupils are extremely good in their academy. Still remember my Chemistry tuition laugh as us as the best we score is 45/50. Whereas in his class 45/50 is the worst results, most student get perfect score.

yeah can confirm about this....spm now are just being lowered to meet the standard...that why many got A's...but still i cannot brain with those student that fail BM.....apa lanchau pun tak bleh la

But the one is SMK

Not SMJK

something must have happened for the quality to drop

change of administration? change of teachers?

UM grads high quality

Last2 minta kerja kat graduate sjkc tauke juga

1119 is the difficult part lol

Anyway SPM is so easy nowadays

It’s a mixture of everything.

Main reason is back in the old days, these schools were famous for English speaking students. When the students standard of English started to deteriorate, they lost their prestige and non-Malays parents no longer hold these schools in high regards as there are better schools today. Most prefer private or international schools. Some even prefer those learning centres than sending their kids to SMK.

ahhhh... most missionary schools used to be top schools, but once took over by the gov, it all became shit

what are learning centres? tuition centres ah? if didnt go to SMK, means go SMJK? unless rich then can go to private or international la

It's a lot like tuition centers as they are usually run in shop houses. Example of learning centers

https://www.maplewood.com.my/

There are not many SMJK in Klang Valley and they are not for most students. Only those who can take it will go to SMJK.

There are basically 3 categories of schools if you want to take your children out from public schools.

Learning centers are the cheapest and they usually run IGCSE syllabus. Usually they are run from shop houses type of places.

The second type is private schools. They are just like SMK and take SPM but they use English for Maths and Science. Some follow UEC which is basically Chinese independent schools. Usually, they have proper school compounds and fields.

The last type is international schools. Basically, the most popular syllabus is IGCSE which are not much different from those in learning centers. There are of course others which run American or Australian syllabus. International schools also got various tiers. They have top middle and lower tiers too. The top tier international schools usually have nice campus comparable to universities. The lower tier ones sometimes are not much different from learning centers.

Basically, the difference is between all these types of schools are $$$.

Learning centers the cheapest followed by private schools then followed by international schools.

oh wow, thanks for explaining!

i thought other than public and private schools, there are only homeschooling. didnt know about these learning centres, that's interesting

They are mushrooming everywhere in Klang Valley as education is a lucrative biz. Some of the successful learning centres actually become international schools in the past few years.

Learning centres concept actually evolved from homeschooling. I think about a decade ago, some parents who want to homeschool their kids start to band together and created centres where their homeschooled kids can interact with other kids.

Then some of them found out that it’s a profitable to turn the centres into full fledge schools. So, some of them took over tuition centres and daycares.