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post May 25 2024, 03:25 PM, updated 2y ago

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I have booked a unit of proton s70 today. I'm still deciding premium or flagship model? For sure executive and flagship x is out. What's your opinion?
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post May 25 2024, 03:30 PM

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the different is, the flagship got sunroof only right?
i would go for premium to save money
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post May 25 2024, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(T.Alvin @ May 25 2024, 03:30 PM)
the different is, the flagship got sunroof only right?
i would go for premium to save money
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No, only flagship x got sunroof
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post May 25 2024, 03:36 PM

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Can ts break down what premium and flagship have and no?
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post May 25 2024, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(zuozi @ May 25 2024, 03:36 PM)
Can ts break down what premium and flagship have and no?
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paulinetan.org/2023/11/30/proton-s70-variants-spec-by-spec-video-comparison-of-executive-premium-flagship-x-rm74k-to-rm95k/

From the safety specs alone, I think I will pick flagship.

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post May 25 2024, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(codercoder @ May 25 2024, 03:33 PM)
No, only flagship x got sunroof
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oh, my mistake, if budget no issue, get the flagship then. more safety feature and 1 or 2 more toy to play with biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post May 25 2024, 03:49 PM

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Got budget then flagship, no budget also find a way to make up the few thousands for the flagship. On paper flagship is definitely the best buy
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post May 25 2024, 03:50 PM

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if money is not the issue, go for flagship

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post May 25 2024, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ May 25 2024, 03:41 PM)
paulinetan.org/2023/11/30/proton-s70-variants-spec-by-spec-video-comparison-of-executive-premium-flagship-x-rm74k-to-rm95k/

From the safety specs alone, I think I will pick flagship.
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Yeah you right for safety purpose just go for flagship, but I'm not 3 cylinder+turbo fans will avoid at all costs, probably if 4 cylinder N/A I'll think about it when retired 😄
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post May 25 2024, 04:01 PM

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for sure flagship is better deal ..provided that is within your budget

flagship X x perlu la
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post May 25 2024, 04:08 PM

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got money flagship no money premium so easy
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post May 25 2024, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Chanwsan @ May 25 2024, 03:49 PM)
Got budget then flagship, no budget also find a way to make up the few thousands for the flagship. On paper flagship is definitely the best buy
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We mainly city drive only. Very seldom go outstation. Still need those safety features?
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post May 25 2024, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(codercoder @ May 25 2024, 04:14 PM)
We mainly city drive only. Very seldom go outstation. Still need those safety features?
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The ACC adaptive cruise got stop & go function, can be used in city drive too and AEB auto emergency braking also useful for city drive with many traffics, in case driver lacks concentration.

If you don't need all those driving assistance , then go straight for Executive if you also could do without leather seats & reverse camera.

The problem is the pricing between premium & flagship is much worth the upgrade for all those ADAS / 360 / Displays , whereas the pricing gap grows a lil bigger between Exec & Premium if you could forgo the leather seats & reverse camera altogether.

There are rumor that Proton will release a 'Standard' S70 as entry-level model to be priced below the current Executive variant.
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post May 25 2024, 04:35 PM

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If you're confused, that means you can afford the flagship. So if I were you, I'd get the flagship and call it a day.

Buyer's remorse is no joke. I made the mistake of choosing a cheaper car twice.
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post May 25 2024, 04:45 PM

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Only 10k diff btwn premium and flagship … if u take loan not thT much difference …

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post May 25 2024, 05:25 PM

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Flagship if you can afford
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post May 25 2024, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(codercoder @ May 25 2024, 03:33 PM)
No, only flagship x got sunroof
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and the DVR recorder, floor light

better check with your SA on the accessories for flagship X

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post May 25 2024, 06:36 PM

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get flagship, the extra ADAS, AEB, etc will save you someday
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post May 25 2024, 08:07 PM

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premium jelah.

as long got full taillights, otherwise it will look ugly.

17" tyre is a recurring headache.

and i dont need all the fancy gadgets. those gadgets/sensors also will become a headache to repair and replace after 10-15 years.
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post May 25 2024, 08:23 PM

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Go flagship for the safety features. Damn proton should provide those safety features for premium as well.
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post May 25 2024, 09:49 PM

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Executive vs Flagship would be a better comparision, since only singnificant difference between the exec and premium is reverse camera which you can pasang sendiri/shop.

The main consideration will be do you think you need ADAS or not. Its more of a safety net in case anything that might happen, but can be preventable with good driving. Personally, i feel passive safety is more of a importance compared to active safety. Some people also do think that all these electronics are more troublesome that useful (I hate the keyless start because when it fails, can be a bit or troublesome).

If you are only doing city driving, then only the auto emergency braking and blindspot monitoring is of any use.

Long story short, you mau active safety ke tak? If you can't decide, then just go for flagship if you have the cash. You can use this as a chance to try out the ADAS (hopefully you dont come in a situation the needs it).
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post May 25 2024, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(paulPan @ May 25 2024, 09:49 PM)
Executive vs Flagship would be a better comparision, since only singnificant difference between the exec and premium is reverse camera which you can pasang sendiri/shop.

The main consideration will be do you think you need ADAS or not. Its more of a safety net in case anything that might happen, but can be preventable with good driving. Personally, i feel passive safety is more of a importance compared to active safety. Some people also do think that all these electronics are more troublesome that useful (I hate the keyless start because when it fails, can be a bit or troublesome).

If you are only doing city driving, then only the auto emergency braking and blindspot monitoring is of any use.

Long story short, you mau active safety ke tak? If you can't decide, then just go for flagship if you have the cash. You can use this as a chance to try out the ADAS (hopefully you dont come in a situation the needs it).
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What about the tyre difference?
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post May 25 2024, 11:07 PM

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take flagship.
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post May 25 2024, 11:29 PM

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I will go for flagship - buts its your money

Safety

Autonomous emergency braking
Forward collision warning
Adaptive cruise control with stop and go
Intelligent cruise control
Lane departure warning
Lane departure prevention
Lane centering control
Traffic sign information
Auto high beam
Tyre pressure monitoring system
360-degree camera with 3D display
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post May 26 2024, 12:18 AM

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If you can spend the extra, get flagship. If not, normal spec will do.. For me I prefer nothing, less things to deal with if anything roask
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post May 26 2024, 07:03 AM

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I notice flagship got Online Navigation while Premium doesn't have. What it means? And flagship maintenance cost is higher right compare to Premium?

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post May 26 2024, 11:19 AM

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If got money, everything but the sunroof. Sunroof just don't make sense in Malaysia weather
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post May 26 2024, 11:22 AM

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post May 26 2024, 12:08 PM

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Skip the sunroof, its redundant in Msia
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QUOTE(codercoder @ May 25 2024, 03:25 PM)
I have booked a unit of proton s70 today. I'm still deciding premium or flagship model? For sure executive and flagship x is out. What's your opinion?
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flagship. don't make mistake.
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post May 27 2024, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(codercoder @ May 25 2024, 10:56 PM)
What about the tyre difference?
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Bigger tyre means more grip, but that also means less fuel economy. I have seen people downsize tyres in older cars to improve fuel economy. If you are the person who drives within the speed limit or dont really speed, I dont think it would make that much of a difference.

Speaking of the infotaiment system which include the navigation. From what I gather its using the ATLAS OS, the same one used in other proton cars (I use a persona premium, so my experince is based on that). Maps is OK if you are going to a new place and don't really know the road, but not that good in terms of avoiding traffic, google maps on my phone seems to do a better job, but this may be subjective and differ from person to person. The music app is spotify and joox, so you can directly connect, however sometimes my spotify has issues and needs to login again and again. Voice command is a gimmick at most, nice to use sometimes but it gets old pretty fast.

Also, one more point to consider which I overlooked earlier. I think the aircod needs to be controlled from the headunit, so replacing it might not be so easy; you might want to check with owners clubs (FB or here). The persona premium can be fitted with aftermarkets headunit but requires some additions to get the sensors and reverse cam working (one reason why I have not changed mine).

With that being said, if the flagship is within your budget (ie can afford it on a 5 year loan or less), go for it. But if you are willing and ready to find solutions for the above for a RM 15k, then you could consider the executive. You mau ADAS and don't want to bother with aftermarket stuff, go with flagship. If you just want a car to take you from point A to point B, then it would be exec and pasang camera and aftermarket stuff yourself.

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post May 27 2024, 07:23 AM

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Flagship jer lah, no need to think.
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post May 27 2024, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(johnnycp @ May 27 2024, 07:23 AM)
Flagship jer lah, no need to think.
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Besides the cost, I think I want a more comfort ride with smaller tyre esp here got many potholes lol. better for suspension also.

Ride Comfort:

16-inch tires: Often provide a smoother and more comfortable ride because of the taller sidewalls which absorb more shocks from potholes and rough roads.
17-inch tires: Can provide a firmer ride due to the shorter sidewalls which offer less cushioning.
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post May 27 2024, 08:57 AM

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Get a flagship and call it a day.

Flagship x - only sunroof .no need. Doesn't justify the cost (unless u really need that black colour and bodykit)

Non ADAS version - Junks. You better buy a persona instead.
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QUOTE(Ttbatdtptsm @ May 25 2024, 04:45 PM)
Only 10k diff btwn premium and flagship … if u take loan not thT much difference …
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Now with depo, it is 3.5% interest?
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post May 27 2024, 10:21 AM

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Wait for R3 variant, sports version
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IMO, Premium spec looks to be the most cost effective one. Problem with fancy gadgets is they are expensive to fix/replace.
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post May 27 2024, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(jerm57 @ May 27 2024, 11:43 AM)
IMO, Premium spec looks to be the most cost effective one. Problem with fancy gadgets is they are expensive to fix/replace.
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yeah and also very fast out dated.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ May 25 2024, 04:35 PM)
If you're confused, that means you can afford the flagship. So if I were you, I'd get the flagship and call it a day.

Buyer's remorse is no joke. I made the mistake of choosing a cheaper car twice.
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i feel this remorse as well cry.gif
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post May 27 2024, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(myteam94 @ May 27 2024, 01:38 PM)
i feel this remorse as well  cry.gif
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what do you remorse the most?
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post May 27 2024, 03:18 PM

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Get the Flagship if u can afford it.
I myself dont care much abt ADAS . It interferes with my driving which i dont like.

But i do care abt the instrument cluster. You will have to look at it everytime you're driving. If u buy lower spec ones , it looks like the one from Preve, very outdated because its more a decade old.

360 cam is useful when you have children. Your small children might run around the house while you're reversing your car. You dont want hit them accidently.

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QUOTE(codercoder @ May 27 2024, 03:16 PM)
what do you remorse the most?
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i should've wait a bit longer and then a newer model came-in with better equipment cry.gif


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post May 27 2024, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(myteam94 @ May 27 2024, 03:37 PM)
i should've wait a bit longer and then a newer model came-in with better equipment  cry.gif
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I think this is not buyer's remorse in TS' context. There are always better products coming out later. Even if you waited, your model would still be outdated and "out gadgeted" when newer models arrive.

In TS' context, both choices are available now. It's a matter of choosing a cheaper one vs a more expensive but better equipped variant.

In future, if he almost knocks into a car, would he wish he'd chosen the one with ADAS?
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post May 29 2024, 06:26 AM

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I think I might change my mind to flagship after this video esp on AEB




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QUOTE(alternativehype @ May 26 2024, 11:19 AM)
If got money, everything but the sunroof. Sunroof just don't make sense in Malaysia weather
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100% agree.
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post May 29 2024, 07:13 AM

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If budget isn’t really a concern, to avoid buyer’s remorse, always choose the car with the most options.

Even then, still no guarantee that you won’t feel a tinge of regret (like I did with my 911 GTS).

I upgraded from my initial plan of a fully optioned base Carrera to a fully optioned 911 GTS and I thought that would save me from any risk of regret…

… but now I’m kinda wishing I had chosen the manual transmission option instead of the faster more efficient PDK…

That’s human nature…
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thats a huge difference in spec of premium vs flagship..............get the flagship

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QUOTE(jonthebaptist @ May 27 2024, 10:21 AM)
Wait for R3 variant, sports version
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Yeah, nowadays R3 only special is stickers and different colored garnishes.

R3 is a joke. no engine tuning, manual gearbox like the previous R3 saga and R3 Iriz. what a load of POOP.

 

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