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post May 23 2024, 04:43 PM, updated 2y ago

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Mod Pls don't move my thread to other sub. This is not a serious hardware topic. No traffic there. This is just something I keep as record and learn other people opinion on the build.

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Packaging comes with this foam just to fill the empty space.

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Slightly larger antenna and a couple of rare white sata cables.

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There is a tiny fan in the vrm area.

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QUOTE(samftrmd @ May 23 2024, 04:43 PM)
Mod Pls don't move my thread to other sub. This is not a serious hardware topic. No traffic there. This is just something I keep as record and learn other people opinion on the build.

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Packaging comes with this foam just to fill the empty space.

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Slightly larger antenna and a couple of rare white sata cables.

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There is a tiny fan in the vrm area.
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M-atx build?
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post May 23 2024, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(Doomsday @ May 23 2024, 04:49 PM)
M-atx build?
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B760I... it is ITX form factor
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post May 23 2024, 04:53 PM

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/k will share their opinion here for sure, i learnt alot form their defensive mode in my daily life to avoid many unwanted event

So that your PC free from power trip, pilferage, getting older, overheated , non-performance, dropped to floor due to slippery hands, paint go off, viruses, etc
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post May 23 2024, 04:53 PM

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the motherboard is not even colorful
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post May 23 2024, 04:55 PM

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And you expect traffic here? Cannot reach 2nd page i bet.
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post May 23 2024, 05:04 PM

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i think i am colorblind
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post May 23 2024, 05:06 PM

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I think I start to hate itx build
Too hard to upgrade
Ram only 2 slot
Pcie also 1 slot only

And itx is not exactly small

Matx is the way to go
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post May 23 2024, 05:10 PM

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no rgb
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post May 23 2024, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ May 23 2024, 05:06 PM)
I think I start to hate itx build
Too hard to upgrade
Ram only 2 slot
Pcie also 1 slot only

And itx is not exactly small

Matx is the way to go
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Why need 4 slot? Not many ppl slot in 4 RAM
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post May 23 2024, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ May 23 2024, 05:06 PM)
I think I start to hate itx build
Too hard to upgrade
Ram only 2 slot
Pcie also 1 slot only

And itx is not exactly small

Matx is the way to go
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Lian li has a new matx casing that looks like an itx for those who want small casing but like you, dislike itx mb.
I also think itx mb is unnecessary expensive given its limitations.

https://lian-li.com/product/a3-matx/
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post May 23 2024, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(kamfoo @ May 23 2024, 05:10 PM)
no rgb
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It has 1 argb port.
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post May 23 2024, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ May 23 2024, 05:06 PM)
I think I start to hate itx build
Too hard to upgrade
Ram only 2 slot
Pcie also 1 slot only

And itx is not exactly small

Matx is the way to go
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My only gripe with ITX is that most of them only comes with 2 SATA ports, I'd much prefer 4 for my NAS builds
2 RAM slots pretty ok for most uses, unless you're aiming for quad channel
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post May 23 2024, 05:12 PM

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im using colorful gpu..its ok
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post May 23 2024, 05:12 PM

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Sparkle gpu. Never hear before.
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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ May 23 2024, 05:12 PM)
My only gripe with ITX is that most of them only comes with 2 SATA ports, I'd much prefer 4 for my NAS builds
2 RAM slots pretty ok for most uses, unless you're aiming for quad channel
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Normal midrange cpu not support quad channel right, even put 4 slot
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post May 23 2024, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 23 2024, 05:12 PM)
im using colorful gpu..its ok
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Yes. Unlike it's legacy releases, the newer 3000 and 4000 series gpu have relatively low faulty rate.
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post May 23 2024, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(samftrmd @ May 23 2024, 05:12 PM)
Sparkle gpu. Never hear before.
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it's not even sparkling
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post May 23 2024, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(PJng @ May 23 2024, 05:14 PM)
Normal midrange cpu not support quad channel right, even put 4 slot
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Most 4 slots mb are not quad channel as well. The extra space is good for upgrade, and also more space for heat releases.
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post May 23 2024, 05:16 PM

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Looks nice compared to most vanilla mobos.
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post May 23 2024, 05:17 PM

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Similar to Nvidia gpu, it has opening on the metal back plate for air flow as well.
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post May 23 2024, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(gobiomani @ May 23 2024, 05:16 PM)
Looks nice compared to most vanilla mobos.
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Yes. Other than the thin heat spreader for a chipset heatsink, it is very adequately equipped.
ARgb, wifi, shielded pcie slot, USB type c, even has 3 fan plugs.
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post May 23 2024, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(PJng @ May 23 2024, 05:14 PM)
Normal midrange cpu not support quad channel right, even put 4 slot
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yes correct, i think only threadripper and x299 supports quad channel
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post May 23 2024, 05:23 PM

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Other than the GPU, it doesn't comes with anything at all. Not power cable spilter, no logo, don't even has a user manual.
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post May 23 2024, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(samftrmd @ May 23 2024, 05:14 PM)
Yes. Unlike it's legacy releases, the newer 3000 and 4000 series gpu have relatively low faulty rate.
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good like this, previously using palit also ok

happy what i paid for

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post May 23 2024, 05:41 PM

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Evolv shift 2
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Instead of metal side panel, it's fabric covering a plastic frame. The fabric is glued on, not readily removable for cleaning.

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Top panel is also has a filter, not readily removable as well. The panel is push-release spring loaded.

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Only 2*usb3.0

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Gen 3 cable only.

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Only power button, the other 2 are for argb.

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Comes with 1 fan.
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post May 23 2024, 05:44 PM

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How's the bios, easy to use?
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post May 23 2024, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(PJng @ May 23 2024, 05:10 PM)
Why need 4 slot? Not many ppl slot in 4 RAM
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Just for upgrade ability in case ram gets even cheaper

QUOTE(samftrmd @ May 23 2024, 05:10 PM)
Lian li has a new matx casing that looks like an itx for those who want small casing but like you, dislike itx mb.
I also think itx mb is unnecessary expensive given its limitations.

https://lian-li.com/product/a3-matx/
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I think it's still big right? Problem is GPU too big

4060 LP is great invention

Itx should pair with 4060lp

QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ May 23 2024, 05:12 PM)
My only gripe with ITX is that most of them only comes with 2 SATA ports, I'd much prefer 4 for my NAS builds
2 RAM slots pretty ok for most uses, unless you're aiming for quad channel
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You remind me that I hate itx because it only have 2 NVME slot


QUOTE(samftrmd @ May 23 2024, 05:41 PM)

Gen 3 cable only.
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I always think this type of installation reduce GPU performance

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post May 23 2024, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(alfiejr @ May 23 2024, 05:44 PM)
How's the bios, easy to use?
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Later I share bios picture.
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post May 23 2024, 05:55 PM

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Need to further tidy up the casing cables.
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post May 23 2024, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(samftrmd @ May 23 2024, 05:12 PM)
Sparkle gpu. Never hear before.
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Nice. The 16gb a770. Although its a bit overpriced for our market


What MB would you suggest for a b650m bulld? Somewhat decent for a budget build
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post May 23 2024, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(knazlee @ May 23 2024, 05:58 PM)
Nice. The 16gb a770. Although its a bit overpriced for our market
What MB would you suggest for a b650m bulld? Somewhat decent for a budget build
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https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B650M-MORTAR-WIFI

I like the chipset and vrm heatsink. Also, a slightly better audio chip.
I just bought it's B760m variant.
Remember to check ram qvl before you buy.
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post May 23 2024, 06:04 PM

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Not much room for cables. Very bad design.
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The radiator position is on the lower part of the casing. Meaning the pump will be at the tallest point... Attached Image

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post May 23 2024, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(samftrmd @ May 23 2024, 06:03 PM)
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B650M-MORTAR-WIFI

I like the chipset and vrm heatsink. Also, a slightly better audio chip.
I just bought it's B760m variant.
Remember to check ram qvl before you buy.
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Ahh the mag mortar. I was actually looking at asrock b650m pro rs wifi with predator pallas II 16x2 cl30 6000. Now that i checked its not on QVL list. Thanks for the reminder bro

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post May 23 2024, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ May 23 2024, 05:06 PM)
I think I start to hate itx build
Too hard to upgrade
Ram only 2 slot
Pcie also 1 slot only

And itx is not exactly small

Matx is the way to go
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the issue with mITX is as usual the pricing

youre paying more for less

ive gone thru mITX also, it was great until you realised more shortcomings than good ones
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post May 24 2024, 12:48 AM

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sad.gif Get moved to this graveyard forum again...
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ May 23 2024, 04:43 PM)
Mod Pls don't move my thread to other sub. This is not a serious hardware topic. No traffic there. This is just something I keep as record and learn other people opinion on the build.
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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ May 23 2024, 04:55 PM)
And you expect traffic here? Cannot reach 2nd page i bet.
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post May 24 2024, 11:39 AM

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I actually don't feel like continue in this thread anymore, but I just want to comment on the casing.

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I think it's previous design is much better. Material used are more premium. This casing design seems to not account for the tubes and cables.
The 2*2.5" is too close together and the opening is also too close the the tray. The SATA cable will need to be bent on the near plug, which is very damaging.
As shown in the picture, the tubes need to be twisted to fit in. Various fan cables are too close to the fan.
Almost no consideration in the design for the psu cables...

I will avoid this casing for my own computer.
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it seems /k mods dislike u in some ways biggrin.gif since they seem to be specifically targeting ur build threads
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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ May 23 2024, 05:21 PM)
yes correct, i think  only threadripper and x299 supports quad channel
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nope. x79 and x99 also can do quad. x58 only do triple channel.
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ May 23 2024, 04:43 PM)
Mod Pls don't move my thread to other sub. This is not a serious hardware topic. No traffic there. This is just something I keep as record and learn other people opinion on the build.

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Packaging comes with this foam just to fill the empty space.

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Slightly larger antenna and a couple of rare white sata cables.

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There is a tiny fan in the vrm area.
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how much is this board ? is this matx ?

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ May 24 2024, 07:24 PM)
how much is this board ? is this matx ?
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Don't know price. Itx.
Itx is conventionally unnecessary expensive compared to matx. For this kind of money, recommend to get something more reputable.
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ May 24 2024, 07:28 PM)
Don't know price. Itx.
Itx is conventionally unnecessary expensive compared to matx. For this kind of money, recommend to get something more reputable.
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thanks! was looking for a small build for my gaming machine..ok, will take heed of your advice
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ May 23 2024, 05:12 PM)
Sparkle gpu. Never hear before.
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I knew them during Geforce 2/3 era. After that they were gone for a long time until now.
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ May 24 2024, 07:40 PM)
thanks! was looking for a small build for my gaming machine..ok, will take heed of your advice
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MATX offers a good compromise of being smallish yet similar/cheaper price than equivalent full ATX. They also have compact cases that are nearly as small as ITX XL cases without the thermal penalty

https://www.funkykit.com/reviews/chassis/co...chassis-review/

https://basic-tutorials.de/tests/pc-hardwar...li-dan-a3-matx/

The downside is their VRM might not be as plentiful as its ATX brother so you shouldnt fit like an i9 or R9 CPU but then so too is much of ITX mobos.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ May 25 2024, 12:24 PM)
MATX offers a good compromise of being smallish yet similar/cheaper price than equivalent full ATX. They also have compact cases that are nearly as small as ITX XL cases without the thermal penalty

https://www.funkykit.com/reviews/chassis/co...chassis-review/

https://basic-tutorials.de/tests/pc-hardwar...li-dan-a3-matx/

The downside is their VRM might not be as plentiful as its ATX brother so you shouldnt fit like an i9 or R9 CPU but then so too is much of ITX mobos.
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thanks! am looking for medium built like amd ryzen 5 or i5 equivalent so i guess matx will be ok for me
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No BIOS update for the new Intel microcode yet...
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ May 25 2024, 12:27 PM)
thanks! am looking for medium built like amd ryzen 5 or i5 equivalent so i guess matx will be ok for me
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M-ATX is fine.

Just check the TDP then you will get an idea. All boards should be able to run 65W, with potential limited boost clock.
If the it is 105W/120W then middle-high models will be ok. You will need to the get flagship board (i.e. MSI Mortar) for those higher. HardwareUnboxed has plenty of videos specific to the power delivery of the boards, and you check where it see fits (He stress-tested the boards with the highest end processor).

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Aug 9 2024, 06:57 PM)
M-ATX is fine.

Just check the TDP then you will get an idea. All boards should be able to run 65W, with potential limited boost clock.
If the it is 105W/120W then middle-high models will be ok. You will need to the get flagship board (i.e. MSI Mortar) for those higher. HardwareUnboxed has plenty of videos specific to the power delivery of the boards, and you check where it see fits (He stress-tested the boards with the highest end processor).
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