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post May 8 2024, 08:05 PM, updated 2y ago

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My laptop is working fine to connect

but my phone and TV connected to WIFI without internet. Same situation as last time when they kena DNS down.
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post May 8 2024, 08:05 PM

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nop, works fine.
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post May 8 2024, 08:09 PM

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google and cloudflare dns kan ado.
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post May 8 2024, 08:15 PM

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i feel like all ISP's DNS is tak boleh guna punya
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post May 8 2024, 08:18 PM

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Cloudflare problem again?

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post May 8 2024, 08:18 PM

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and some people complaining high response time to twitter.
so much for so called superior routing.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5456242

but question is which submarine cable pecah until NTT become badly impacted?
my office vpn also NTT send to japan gateway dunno for what reason? NTT gateway in cyberjaya jahanam meh?
CODE
Tracing the route to 104.244.42.129

1  ae-2.r22.kslrml02.my.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.224) 2 msec  *  2 msec
2   *  *
   ae-5.r27.tkokhk01.hk.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.195) [MPLS: Label 215797 Exp 0] 40 msec
3   *  *
   ae-13.r33.tokyjp05.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.243) 72 msec
4   *
   ae-5.a01.tokyjp10.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.6.35) 75 msec  83 msec
5  ae-1.a03.osakjp02.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.219) 360 msec  350 msec
   ce-1-0-3.a01.tokyjp10.jp.ce.gin.ntt.net (120.88.53.154) 72 msec
6  ae-0.x-corp.osakjp02.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (61.200.82.46) 340 msec  373 msec
   twitter.com (104.244.42.129) 72 msec


This post has been edited by zerorating: May 8 2024, 08:25 PM
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post May 8 2024, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 8 2024, 08:18 PM)
and some people complaining high response time to twitter.
so much for so called superior routing.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5456242

but question is which submarine cable pecah until NTT become badly impacted?
my office vpn also NTT send to japan gateway dunno for what reason? NTT gateway in cyberjaya jahanam meh?
CODE
Tracing the route to 104.244.42.129

1  ae-2.r22.kslrml02.my.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.224) 2 msec  *  2 msec
2   *  *
   ae-5.r27.tkokhk01.hk.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.195) [MPLS: Label 215797 Exp 0] 40 msec
3   *  *
   ae-13.r33.tokyjp05.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.243) 72 msec
4   *
   ae-5.a01.tokyjp10.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.6.35) 75 msec  83 msec
5  ae-1.a03.osakjp02.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.219) 360 msec  350 msec
   ce-1-0-3.a01.tokyjp10.jp.ce.gin.ntt.net (120.88.53.154) 72 msec
6  ae-0.x-corp.osakjp02.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (61.200.82.46) 340 msec  373 msec
   twitter.com (104.244.42.129) 72 msec

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Kabel besar is just a marketing gimmick

TIME in 2024 is just not what it used to be

Nowadays Maxis / Unifi is better than TIME at EU, China, JP routing
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post May 8 2024, 08:59 PM

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cloudflare or google dns dah cuba ke
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post May 8 2024, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ May 8 2024, 08:54 PM)
Kabel besar is just a marketing gimmick

TIME in 2024 is just not what it used to be

Nowadays Maxis / Unifi is better than TIME at EU, China, JP routing
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not from what i experience these few weeks
that bad routing is affect all ISP and telco

but the experience straight turn table after i turn on my warp...so it definitely confirms it's our problem
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post May 8 2024, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ May 8 2024, 08:54 PM)
Kabel besar is just a marketing gimmick

TIME in 2024 is just not what it used to be

Nowadays Maxis / Unifi is better than TIME at EU, China, JP routing
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unifi has been suffering intermittent lags at night almost every night for me, disconnect and reconnecting to get a different public ip range sometimes work to fix it, not sure of the reasoning though

This post has been edited by Quantum Geist: May 8 2024, 09:03 PM
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post May 8 2024, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ May 8 2024, 08:54 PM)
Kabel besar is just a marketing gimmick

TIME in 2024 is just not what it used to be

Nowadays Maxis / Unifi is better than TIME at EU, China, JP routing
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cant said that, TM route to equinix US hop/gateway is kinda inconsistent, people over here complaining about imgur.com slow, but twitter via equinix US okay pulak? binggung
maybe equinix themself buat tahik, no give priority to our network packets. same can be said for cogent sometime.

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post May 8 2024, 09:05 PM

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I don't understand

Why so many ppl like to use Time braodband nowadays?


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post May 8 2024, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ May 8 2024, 09:05 PM)
I don't understand

Why so many ppl like to use Time braodband nowadays?
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their kepala think TM service is bad, so alternative is better option.

meanwhile myself, TM is very good because thats the only provider service us for quite some time. having low quality service is better than no service. whistling.gif
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post May 8 2024, 09:19 PM

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Just switch to your own DNS la. Why use default DNS? doh.gif

I set alternate/3rd party DNS on my router itself and I never had issues including the previous downtime.
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post May 8 2024, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ May 8 2024, 09:19 PM)
Just switch to your own DNS la. Why use default DNS? doh.gif

I set alternate/3rd party DNS on my router itself and I never had issues including the previous downtime.
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probably its not dns issue, but people treat it as dns issue.
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post May 9 2024, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 8 2024, 08:59 PM)
not from what i experience these few weeks
that bad routing is affect all ISP and telco

but the experience straight turn table after i turn on my warp...so it definitely confirms it's our problem
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QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ May 8 2024, 09:00 PM)
unifi has been suffering intermittent lags at night almost every night for me, disconnect and reconnecting to get a different public ip range sometimes work to fix it, not sure of the reasoning though
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 8 2024, 09:01 PM)
cant said that, TM route to equinix US hop/gateway is kinda inconsistent, people over here complaining about imgur.com slow, but twitter via equinix US okay pulak? binggung
maybe equinix themself buat tahik, no give priority to our network packets. same can be said for cogent sometime.
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While I agree that all ISPs are kinda affected by the SMW5 cable cut to EU, my TIME fibre is worst with much higher latency and comes with packet loss.

TM Unifi
CODE
ping ionos.de
PING ionos.de (217.160.86.49): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=0 ttl=53 time=300.086 ms
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=278.544 ms
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=281.629 ms
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 time=285.517 ms
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=4 ttl=53 time=331.620 ms
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=5 ttl=53 time=277.634 ms
^C
--- ionos.de ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 6 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 277.634/292.505/331.620/19.020 ms


TIME Fibre
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ping ionos.de
PING ionos.de (217.160.86.49): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=0 ttl=58 time=445.806 ms
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=1 ttl=58 time=459.067 ms
Request timeout for icmp_seq 2
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=3 ttl=58 time=491.900 ms
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=4 ttl=58 time=409.083 ms
Request timeout for icmp_seq 5
^C
--- ionos.de ping statistics ---
7 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 42.9% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 409.083/451.464/491.900/29.669 ms


Feel free to try and share your results.

This post has been edited by blacktubi: May 9 2024, 12:28 AM
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post May 9 2024, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ May 9 2024, 12:26 AM)
While I agree that all ISPs are kinda affected by the SMW5 cable cut to EU, my TIME fibre is worst with much higher latency and comes with packet loss.

TM Unifi
CODE
ping ionos.de
PING ionos.de (217.160.86.49): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=0 ttl=53 time=300.086 ms
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=278.544 ms
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=281.629 ms
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 time=285.517 ms
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=4 ttl=53 time=331.620 ms
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=5 ttl=53 time=277.634 ms
^C
--- ionos.de ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 6 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 277.634/292.505/331.620/19.020 ms


TIME Fibre
CODE
ping ionos.de
PING ionos.de (217.160.86.49): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=0 ttl=58 time=445.806 ms
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=1 ttl=58 time=459.067 ms
Request timeout for icmp_seq 2
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=3 ttl=58 time=491.900 ms
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=4 ttl=58 time=409.083 ms
Request timeout for icmp_seq 5
^C
--- ionos.de ping statistics ---
7 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 42.9% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 409.083/451.464/491.900/29.669 ms


Feel free to try and share your results.
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CODE
Pinging ionos.de [217.160.86.51] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 217.160.86.51: bytes=32 time=270ms TTL=53
Reply from 217.160.86.51: bytes=32 time=270ms TTL=53
Reply from 217.160.86.51: bytes=32 time=268ms TTL=53
Reply from 217.160.86.51: bytes=32 time=271ms TTL=53
Reply from 217.160.86.51: bytes=32 time=270ms TTL=53
Reply from 217.160.86.51: bytes=32 time=270ms TTL=53
Reply from 217.160.86.51: bytes=32 time=270ms TTL=53
Reply from 217.160.86.51: bytes=32 time=270ms TTL=53
Reply from 217.160.86.51: bytes=32 time=270ms TTL=53
Reply from 217.160.86.51: bytes=32 time=270ms TTL=53
Reply from 217.160.86.51: bytes=32 time=270ms TTL=53
Reply from 217.160.86.51: bytes=32 time=268ms TTL=53
Reply from 217.160.86.51: bytes=32 time=270ms TTL=53
Reply from 217.160.86.51: bytes=32 time=268ms TTL=53
Reply from 217.160.86.51: bytes=32 time=270ms TTL=53

Ping statistics for 217.160.86.51:
   Packets: Sent = 15, Received = 15, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
   Minimum = 268ms, Maximum = 271ms, Average = 269ms


dunno what that ping for what site, just test for fun
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post May 9 2024, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 8 2024, 08:18 PM)
and some people complaining high response time to twitter.
so much for so called superior routing.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5456242

but question is which submarine cable pecah until NTT become badly impacted?
my office vpn also NTT send to japan gateway dunno for what reason? NTT gateway in cyberjaya jahanam meh?
CODE
Tracing the route to 104.244.42.129

1  ae-2.r22.kslrml02.my.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.224) 2 msec  *  2 msec
2   *  *
   ae-5.r27.tkokhk01.hk.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.195) [MPLS: Label 215797 Exp 0] 40 msec
3   *  *
   ae-13.r33.tokyjp05.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.243) 72 msec
4   *
   ae-5.a01.tokyjp10.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.6.35) 75 msec  83 msec
5  ae-1.a03.osakjp02.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.219) 360 msec  350 msec
   ce-1-0-3.a01.tokyjp10.jp.ce.gin.ntt.net (120.88.53.154) 72 msec
6  ae-0.x-corp.osakjp02.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (61.200.82.46) 340 msec  373 msec
   twitter.com (104.244.42.129) 72 msec

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Comparison of Unifi and TIME to twitter.com. It's kinda obvious which one got superior peering and routing.


Unifi
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2. 175.145.124.126               0.0%    38    7.7   8.5   6.7  18.5   2.2
3. 10.55.74.65                   0.0%    38  176.0 176.2 173.7 180.5   1.1
4. 10.55.68.57                   0.0%    38  199.0 198.5 196.8 201.7   1.0
5. 10.55.100.236                 0.0%    38   18.6  18.9  16.9  31.4   2.9
6. 10.55.192.125                 0.0%    37  175.4 175.5 173.4 182.6   1.4
7. eqix1.cr1.sjc2.twttr.com      0.0%    37  176.9 177.0 174.5 209.2   5.7
8. (waiting for reply)
9. 104.244.42.65                 0.0%    37  191.7 191.9 191.0 195.4   0.8


TIME
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2. 202.184.32.1                              0.0%    34   17.6  18.2  16.8  23.1   1.4
3. (waiting for reply)
4. 223.28.43.34                              0.0%    34   18.4  19.5  17.6  29.1   2.5
5. ae-8.r01.kslrml02.my.bb.gin.ntt.net       0.0%    34   19.3  20.6  16.6  28.0   2.3
6. ae-2.r22.kslrml02.my.bb.gin.ntt.net      51.5%    33   20.4  20.7  18.6  29.8   2.7
7. ae-5.r27.tkokhk01.hk.bb.gin.ntt.net      39.4%    33   51.0  52.9  50.5  57.7   2.3
8. ae-4.r26.osakjp02.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net      59.4%    33   94.5  94.0  92.0  98.7   2.1
9. ae-0.r27.osakjp02.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net      42.4%    33   91.7  95.2  90.7 118.1   6.5
10. ae-1.a03.osakjp02.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net       0.0%    33   98.4  95.8  90.9 115.3   5.3
11. ae-0.x-corp.osakjp02.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net   15.2%    33  402.8 394.5 339.8 408.3  13.3
12. 104.244.42.193                            6.1%    33  402.6 395.8 339.5 404.9  15.1

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post May 9 2024, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ May 9 2024, 12:37 AM)
Comparison of Unifi and TIME to twitter.com. It's kinda obvious which one got superior peering and routing.
Unifi
CODE
2. 175.145.124.126               0.0%    38    7.7   8.5   6.7  18.5   2.2
3. 10.55.74.65                   0.0%    38  176.0 176.2 173.7 180.5   1.1
4. 10.55.68.57                   0.0%    38  199.0 198.5 196.8 201.7   1.0
5. 10.55.100.236                 0.0%    38   18.6  18.9  16.9  31.4   2.9
6. 10.55.192.125                 0.0%    37  175.4 175.5 173.4 182.6   1.4
7. eqix1.cr1.sjc2.twttr.com      0.0%    37  176.9 177.0 174.5 209.2   5.7
8. (waiting for reply)
9. 104.244.42.65                 0.0%    37  191.7 191.9 191.0 195.4   0.8


TIME
CODE
2. 202.184.32.1                              0.0%    34   17.6  18.2  16.8  23.1   1.4
3. (waiting for reply)
4. 223.28.43.34                              0.0%    34   18.4  19.5  17.6  29.1   2.5
5. ae-8.r01.kslrml02.my.bb.gin.ntt.net       0.0%    34   19.3  20.6  16.6  28.0   2.3
6. ae-2.r22.kslrml02.my.bb.gin.ntt.net      51.5%    33   20.4  20.7  18.6  29.8   2.7
7. ae-5.r27.tkokhk01.hk.bb.gin.ntt.net      39.4%    33   51.0  52.9  50.5  57.7   2.3
8. ae-4.r26.osakjp02.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net      59.4%    33   94.5  94.0  92.0  98.7   2.1
9. ae-0.r27.osakjp02.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net      42.4%    33   91.7  95.2  90.7 118.1   6.5
10. ae-1.a03.osakjp02.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net       0.0%    33   98.4  95.8  90.9 115.3   5.3
11. ae-0.x-corp.osakjp02.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net   15.2%    33  402.8 394.5 339.8 408.3  13.3
12. 104.244.42.193                            6.1%    33  402.6 395.8 339.5 404.9  15.1

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looks like ntt issue to me, hop 5 is fine, hop 6 is packet loss galore.
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post May 9 2024, 01:03 AM

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can confirm. twitter barely load on my pc, but for some reason on phone it works perfectly fine. already tried both google dns and open dns, same shit. been almost a week now...?
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 9 2024, 12:55 AM)
looks like ntt issue to me, hop 5 is fine, hop 6 is packet loss galore.
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NTT is always congested, last reported in Jan and never got fixed

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=109048968
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=109071408
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QUOTE(blacktubi @ May 9 2024, 01:07 AM)
depending at ntt alone is kinda dangerous, they are datacenter provider not a full fledge isp here. whats the point of globaltransit if time cant have their own gateway on the target country or direct route to the isp of the target country

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ May 9 2024, 12:26 AM)
While I agree that all ISPs are kinda affected by the SMW5 cable cut to EU, my TIME fibre is worst with much higher latency and comes with packet loss.

TM Unifi
CODE
ping ionos.de
PING ionos.de (217.160.86.49): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=0 ttl=53 time=300.086 ms
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=278.544 ms
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=281.629 ms
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 time=285.517 ms
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=4 ttl=53 time=331.620 ms
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=5 ttl=53 time=277.634 ms
^C
--- ionos.de ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 6 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 277.634/292.505/331.620/19.020 ms


TIME Fibre
CODE
ping ionos.de
PING ionos.de (217.160.86.49): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=0 ttl=58 time=445.806 ms
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=1 ttl=58 time=459.067 ms
Request timeout for icmp_seq 2
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=3 ttl=58 time=491.900 ms
64 bytes from 217.160.86.49: icmp_seq=4 ttl=58 time=409.083 ms
Request timeout for icmp_seq 5
^C
--- ionos.de ping statistics ---
7 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 42.9% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 409.083/451.464/491.900/29.669 ms


Feel free to try and share your results.
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the problem on TIME maybe temporary
but the unifi routing problem has been like that for years and never resolved
i'm not sure they even plan to resolve it

it has always been bad at night, just that it's especially bad these few weeks
zerorating
post May 9 2024, 10:46 AM

Miskin Adab
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From: Lokap Polis


blacktubi

NTT arcnet route traffic to australia instead. x.com load just fine. i guess NTT aware on the high utilization and only help moving corporate user from the mess.
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Tracing route to x.com [104.244.42.65]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1     2 ms     2 ms     2 ms  10.x.x.x
 2     3 ms     2 ms     2 ms  10.x.x.x
 3     2 ms     2 ms     2 ms  10.x.x.x
 4     3 ms     3 ms    10 ms  x.x.x.x
 5     4 ms     3 ms     3 ms  cbj-br1.arc.net.my [203.115.232.53]
 6     4 ms     2 ms     4 ms  203.115.224.110
 7   223 ms   210 ms   210 ms  116.51.36.11
 8   130 ms   131 ms   129 ms  103.13.83.171
 9   220 ms   220 ms   220 ms  as13414.sydney.megaport.com [103.26.68.119]
10   232 ms   232 ms   231 ms  104.244.42.65


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