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TSMeimei14
post May 14 2024, 09:46 PM

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Hey guys.
Latest update.
Had a session with HR yesterday. HR asked me to hand in my own resignation letter, instead of him uses the termination clause, which according to him will look bad on me in future.

On the other dept, he seems encouraging but he kept mentioning how difficult or tough if I'm to go to new dept.
Oh well, I decided to tender my resignation.

During the session, he asked me a lot of questions trying to dig out info from me,hoping I will complain and voice my dissatisfaction. But I just keep positive throughout the session and not saying anything negative.he mentioned my positivity is my "friendnemy", which it will help or destroy me. 😅😅😅.

Guess he is trying to provoke me.
TSMeimei14
post May 16 2024, 09:43 PM

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Update: I have tendered my resignation.
Been applying to job postings these days.
Wish me luck in securing a job with a good boss. 🤞
SUSSihambodoh
post May 16 2024, 09:47 PM

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Do you have evidence HR asking you to resign? Did you know that in Malaysia, if you sue, there is a very high chance of you winning?
TSMeimei14
post May 16 2024, 09:50 PM

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Update: I have tendered my resignation.
Been applying to job postings these days.
Wish me luck in securing a job with a good boss. 🤞
TSMeimei14
post May 16 2024, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ May 16 2024, 09:47 PM)
Do you have evidence HR asking you to resign? Did you know that in Malaysia, if you sue, there is a very high chance of you winning?
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I do not jave proof Hr asked me to resign cuz it was done F2F. Not aware that if HR asked us to resign we can sue them.
But looking at the scenario, if the company terminate me, it will look bad on my next job if the future employer did an employment check on me, right?
SUSSihambodoh
post May 16 2024, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(Meimei14 @ May 16 2024, 09:53 PM)
I do not jave proof Hr asked me to resign cuz it was done F2F.  Not aware that if HR asked us to resign we can sue them.
But looking at the scenario, if the company terminate me, it will look bad on my next job if the future employer did an employment check on me, right?
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If the court determines that you are unfairly dismissed, it will not look bad on you. You get compensated and your ex company cannot say you have been dismissed.

I had indirect experience with this scenario when I was still in the corporate world.

But don't take my word for it. Just do a Google search and you will see employees winning more court cases than employers.
ketnave
post May 16 2024, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(Meimei14 @ May 16 2024, 09:50 PM)
Update: I have tendered my resignation.
Been applying to job postings these days.
Wish me luck in securing a job with a good boss. 🤞
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All the best !

Just keep applying and eventually you will get it !!!
WinkyJr
post May 17 2024, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ May 16 2024, 10:07 PM)
If the court determines that you are unfairly dismissed, it will not look bad on you. You get compensated and your ex company cannot say you have been dismissed.

I had indirect experience with this scenario when I was still in the corporate world.

But don't take my word for it. Just do a Google search and you will see employees winning more court cases than employers.
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The PIP itself is used to protect the company against claims of 'unfair dismissal.'
They have proof that you are not performing.
They have proof that they gave you a warning and offered some sort of 'training' or 'option' to get you on track.
So if the employee sues them, they'll just present all the PIP records to counter.

Correct me if I am wrong.
SUSSihambodoh
post May 17 2024, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(WinkyJr @ May 17 2024, 11:12 PM)
The PIP itself is used to protect the company against claims of 'unfair dismissal.'
They have proof that you are not performing.
They have proof that they gave you a warning and offered some sort of 'training' or 'option' to get you on track.
So if the employee sues them, they'll just present all the PIP records to counter.

Correct me if I am wrong.
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Yes, in the PIP there is a declaration of underperformance and it is to be signed by the employee. If you signed, then you are unlikely to win any court cases. However, if there is evidence that you have been coerced to sign, you can still fight back.
autodriver
post May 21 2024, 11:44 AM

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Let's move on. When you go for next job interview do not bring out the PIP thing. And during this time please take a look why would you got into PIP, is it company politic issue or your own problem. If it is your own problem it is easy then, improve yourself by finding out what are the obstables to you to handle the job. If the PIP is purely on your company issue, then just leave it there. There are number of fxcked up bosses around.

I was one of the worse employee during first and second job where I just worked couple of months then quit without second thought. But then I fall in a long time jobless and this given me a lesson that I have almost no money to survive. I start realise that it was my own attitude problem and I start improving my attitude by putting more effort and think positively. When I got into 3rd job, I given my best even though I do not like the job scope. After couple of years I join the current MNC company from a junior position. I like this industry a lot and I being top performance among the team. In 10 years I was from junior, senior, AM, M and now become head of department.

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autodriver
post May 21 2024, 11:46 AM

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Keep positive thinking and good attitude. I believe most of the employers like the candidate who think positively and right attitude. All the best to you!

 

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