As mentioned in the title, will we see a 2nd generation FTTH network buildout in the country as the old TM HSBB network is already approaching EoL at around 20 years?

A few countries in Asia and even Australasia region already built their next generation networks with Huawei's XGS-PON capable of symmetrical 10G and beyond.

Examples include:

Singapore
MyRepublic Symmetrical 10G Speedtest



New Zealand

Chorus Building for The 25G Future with Hyperfibre



New Zealand's Chorus HyperFibre Network offering symmetrical speeds of 8Gbps to lucky users.
"Hyperfibre redefines what we mean by “fast internet” in New Zealand, with speeds up to 25 times faster than standard fibre broadband*

This time around we need a truly universal neutral provider similar to DNB's 5G network which the operator does not compete directly with other ISPs on the wholesale network itself unlike the lacklustre monopolistic TM HSBB.

My opinion,

Quite tough due to monopoly power of TM. TM does not want to debundle its dark fibre infrastructure to other internet service providers although they have received pressure from past to do so.

TM lobbying power is quite powerfull and they have quite capital supported by government.

TM management still stuck with their dinosaur mindset. We need minister like Gobind not like Fahmi that is powerless. Gobind pressured TM in past to provide free speed upgrades etc.

Back in 2020, 4 years ago in New Zealand..Chorus launched its 10G Symmetrical XGS-PON in NZ being The World's Fastest Commercial Wholesale FTTH Network.

Chorus Wholesale New 10 XGS-PON Ultrafast Broadband Fibre Internet





DNB Wholesale 5G neutral network is actually proven to be quite successfully implemented whereby DNB being the wholesale network provider themselves doesn't compete with other Retail Service Providers(RSV)/ISPs on its network to avoid monopoly unlike TM's HSBB through 5G network slicing method.

Samsung Networks: What is Network Slicing?



Therefore moving forward the next generation wholesale fibre network should be built upon similar structure as well.

The wholesale fibre network will also be responsible for leasing 5G network backhaul and allowing fair marketshare among its members so that everyone will have equal access to the ports for servicing their customers.

Nope

Because monopoly

Well DNB managed to overcame that for 5G that's why our ageing HSBB is now taking a beating.

Everyone is dumping fibre now with contract-less 5G and the convenience of going thorugh tedious wiring setups.

You can apply for a new line, collect your modem from the telco's store and get your internet setup at home DIY within minutes.

FTTH is so dead now for Malaysia if no price and contract restructuring is done to keep its advantage.

5G helps to cover places that are not profitable to install fibre infrastructure like in kampung places.

You must be joking right? FTTH is dead?

why want so fast 10Gbps. want to go where so fast?

That is one advantage but 5G needs high bandwidth fibre to feed its base stations so if you can get fibre that far, FTTH is most likely to reach those places too.

Markets such as HK, Macau, Japan, Europe and US 5G is now even more popular for the average person who spends less time in a fixed place or work outside home.

People don't like to be tied to contracts, long downtime when physical cables get cut/damaged and paying bills which are forced bundled with TV/calls.

Yes even in highly dense markets such as HK, Japan, and US. People are ditching fibre to go cordless and contract-less.

If you're building a new 2nd gen network, would you still build an outdated one which is phased out? They're even talking about 25G and beyond now.

Not just for homes, and power users. These networks are used as 5G backhauls to provide value to wholesale providers.

Yup, but in kampung places, the houses are sometimes located far apart from each other. And there are less demand for fibre internet from the people staying in kampung. So less ROI for ISPs if install fiber infrastructure at places that have less demand.

yes this make sense as 5G or 6G backhaul.

Everybody can have own tv and stream 4k

That's the thing and the very reason why FTTH is losing market now compared to 5G.

If you're just a light user, needs to do basic 4k streaming to watch TV, do occasional downloads, don't have time to play games because you spend 90% of your week outside home, FTTH doesn't make sense paying hundreds to be wasted while being tied to long contracts.

Well to materialize mmWave gigabit speed 5G+ you probably need transmitters every few metres from your customers's CPE.

To imagine bringing fibre that close, it's no different from serving them with 10G FTTH when that day arrives.

Even with our present 5G if you want to get good speeds you'd probably need to live under 1km from the nearest transmitter which needs to be fed with fibre. Don't see an issue to provide FTTH with fibre to closeby homes maybe probably require them to make higher initial investments for pulling fibre to their homes with extended lengths.

Managed?

Breh, so many hanky panky stuff happened backstage for DNB.

KEK

I doubt it with Malaysia way of undertable work