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House Loan Semi Flexi, Thinking dump my saving in house loan
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mushigen
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Apr 27 2024, 10:52 PM
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My 2sen.
Do it if your savings earn lower interest rates.
Do note your cashflow can be affected. I think almost all banks will charge you some fee if you decide to withdraw the excess fund - negating whatever savings you got.
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mushigen
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Apr 28 2024, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Apr 28 2024, 12:17 AM) remember that for semi flexi, u hav to inform bank in order to lower the interest, where else full flexi is auto.if u full flexi & got on9 facility to redraw at any moment, parking your emergency or FD funds in mortgage is better than standard FD rate. What do you mean by "inform the bank to lower interest"? Inform them each time you put in money? Some banks like MBB calculate the daily interest automatically, based on how much you transfer money into the loan account. Imo, the semi-flexi part refers to the T&C when you draw down the loan account (some impose minimum amount to withdraw, and also incurs a service charge when you draw money).
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mushigen
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Apr 28 2024, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(shyan90's @ Apr 28 2024, 10:05 AM) Ya it does charge 1 fix amount to withdraw. Unless full flexi. I think it will automatically lower the interest.. during MCO time bank did lower my interest even i din ask for. Full flexi usually incurs monthly maintenance fee. And some if not most banks impose cap on interest waiver. Semi flexi usually does not have cap.
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mushigen
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Apr 28 2024, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Apr 28 2024, 10:37 AM) This is true. In my case, the monthly account fee is -RM5, and minimum "outstanding" is -RM100K so even if I deposit and make my account balance 0, I'll still incur the bare minimum interest rate charges using RM100k as the outstanding base. Though when I did my comparison many years ago it was still worthwhile, considering that it's so much more flexible to have online and zero-notification facility without having to meet stringent requirements too. Back then the Semi-Flexi loans I compared had requirements like "must be in multiples of RM1000 to knock off principal; and must notify bank in writing/via counter". Should be better now I guess, but hasn't been comparing loans so don't know where the banking industry is taking us now  Which bank is that (the minimum 100k)? Few years back when I was shopping for a loan, PBB's cap is up to 70% of the balance in the current account. Meaning, if you put in 100k, 30k does nothing. HLB has 70% cap on remaining principle. At the same time, I found out about the no capping in semi flexi loans. The withdrawal service charge (something like RM25 or 50) and minimum payment/withdrawal amount didn't appeal to me.
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mushigen
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Apr 28 2024, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Apr 28 2024, 10:58 AM) Mine is Maybank. They did not specify percentage-based value but hardcoded(?) value. Loan on its inception was approximately ~500K so, 20% if percentage wise? At that point in time I only found two FULLY-FLEXI providers - Maybank and HSBC. HSBC obviously rejected the loan offer since it's a small ikan bilis package and they only goes for the big ones  I had same conclusion as you for semi-flexi (CIMB and RHB) during my shopping. That troublesome minimum RM1000's tranche and withdrawal fees put me off so I just went with Maybank. Depending on economic situation next few years I may just wipe off my loan early, or keep it as a easy drawdown loan with mortgage-level interest rates for cashflow purposes. Maybank didn't even have any flexi loan to offer me back then. 500k pun considered ikan bilis?
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mushigen
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Apr 28 2024, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Apr 28 2024, 12:10 PM) That's what the HSBC staff told me back then  their rates were worse than Maybank anyway. Also I just relooked at my loan offer letter, I might have remembered the RM100k wrong (or it was removed in my latest signing). There's no limit on paying down principal, it seems. I also just used my latest March 2024 statement (since I did dip below -RM100k balance after depositing some cash for few days) to calculate my daily interest. Cant get exact amount as Maybank but: | Calculation Method | Interest Amount | | Maybank | 472.25 | | Daily Interest Calculated based on Day End Balance actuals * Interest / 365 days | 472.02 | | Daily Interest Calculated based on Day End Balance actuals * Interest / 365 days, Except if above -100k then use -100k to calculate | 474.57 | | (ROUND UP) Daily Interest Calculated based on Day End Balance actuals * Interest / 365 days | 472.18 | | (ROUND UP) Daily Interest Calculated based on Day End Balance actuals * Interest / 365 days, Except if above -100k then use -100k to calculate | 474.74 |
Good to hear that. Tough times means saving every sen where possible.
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