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 Country Heights Grower Scheme (CHGS), anyone heard before?

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Justmua
post Nov 6 2007, 09:53 AM

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Hi,

Just curious, where did you get the info that CHHB bought the land for RM15K/acre?

Thanks.


QUOTE(scorgio @ Oct 31 2007, 06:22 PM)
This is new.
Can be considered as another form of REIT.

Btw, CHHB bought the land at RM15k/acre.
So by selling them at RM5,500 per 1/4 acre, they instantly recover half of their initial investment.
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Justmua
post Jan 7 2008, 03:59 PM

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Andrew,

What % already taken up?

Please feedback to yr management. Many people here main concern is ability to resell the plot easily. If your company can afford this feature, then the product can be sold quite easily.... Maybe CHGS can buyback at a discount??

Thanks.




QUOTE(neocappuccino @ Jan 7 2008, 12:34 PM)
hi guys, sorry to interrupt in like this.
i was searchin for tech stuff online, and i suddenly bumped in this topic.
which i am actually one of the company consultant, and been sellin this grower scheme for many mths now.
anyways i would like to lend a hand in answering most of your doubts.

juz a intro to u all.
name is Andrew. Im based at The Mines Business Park 10th floor, Balakong, under Mines Marketing Sdn Bhd.
i'll try to answer most of your questions.
Juz a simple refurbish to ya all, we at CHGS believe this is something very new in the market, which has unseen potential on the long run. This program basically benefits both parties, you and the company, and a chance to own a land for 23yrs without having to manage it. i would say its wise to diversify some in here, and still go on with the other kinds of investment out there, nv put everything in one basket.

i'll stop here, and i'll be glad to assists any questions u hav.

happy 2008!!
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Justmua
post Jan 7 2008, 06:29 PM

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Are u saying existing investors are invited for the gala dinner on 22nd Jan and to receive the first dividend cheque??


QUOTE(neocappuccino @ Jan 7 2008, 06:15 PM)

those who invested earlier, meaning last year will get their first dividen this 22nd January 2008 Friday. And a gala dinner will be held at Palace Of The Golden Horses on the same day. The board of directors will be there, and all of the consultants will be there too.
Justmua
post Jan 8 2008, 08:18 AM

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Aiya, just realized that 22nd is a Tuesday. Why can't they have it on a Sat or Sun so more investors can attend??

BTW, when are they sending the invite? Can a person pick up cq on spouse's behalf?


QUOTE(neocappuccino @ Jan 8 2008, 01:08 AM)
thx for investing with us. we really appreciate your support. and i hope to see you in the gala dinner at palace of the golden horses this 22nd of this mth. i'll be keeping in touch you and i hope to shake your hand at the ballroom.

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Justmua
post Jan 29 2008, 09:32 PM

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Aiya Andrew,

This so called gala dinner is not free one!! RM100 /person. Most disappointing that CHGS is not treating its pioneer investors.... Would be interesting to see how many willing to swap the half the dividend for the dinner!

Betul-betul anti-climax!


QUOTE(neocappuccino @ Jan 8 2008, 08:54 AM)
aiks aiks....correction my bad.....
its on the 22nd of February 2008 Friday
i'll get more info on the gala dinner asap.
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Justmua
post Feb 20 2008, 06:25 PM

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Hi, why make life complicated. Just simplify using this formula.

FV = (1+int)^period x principal.

ie. normal FD, Future value of capital = (1.03)^23 * 5,500

Cheers

QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Feb 20 2008, 05:51 PM)
Hi neocapuccino,

I'm basing the FD on annual compounding interest, instead of taking it out and investing in others with varies ROI, which will complicate the assumption-calculation further.  smile.gif

i.e. the interest earned, is top-up into existing FD.


Added on February 20, 2008, 6:02 pm

Hi michael,

Thanks for correcting. I'm new in this CHGS and learning more  smile.gif

I've modified the calculation, to assume the annual rm440 dividend, put into FD with annual compounding rate @3% also. Don't want to further complicate it, if invest in other things, etc.

Bank FD @3% annual compounding
Yr. Int. Cumm.
1 165.00 5,665.00
2 169.95 5,834.95
3 175.05 6,010.00
4 180.30 6,190.30
5 185.71 6,376.01
6 191.28 6,567.29
7 197.02 6,764.31
8 202.93 6,967.24
9 209.02 7,176.25
10 215.29 7,391.54
11 221.75 7,613.29
12 228.40 7,841.68
13 235.25 8,076.94
14 242.31 8,319.24
15 249.58 8,568.82
16 257.06 8,825.89
17 264.78 9,090.66
18 272.72 9,363.38
19 280.90 9,644.28
20 289.33 9,933.61
21 298.01 10,231.62
22 306.95 10,538.57
23 316.16 10,854.73
Assume CHGS 8% annual dividend and put in FD @3% annual compounding
Yr. Div. Total Int. Cumm.
1 440 440.00 13.20 453.20
2 440 893.20 26.80 920.00
3 440 1,360.00 40.80 1,400.80
4 440 1,840.80 55.22 1,896.02
5 440 2,336.02 70.08 2,406.10
6 440 2,846.10 85.38 2,931.48
7 440 3,371.48 101.14 3,472.63
8 440 3,912.63 117.38 4,030.01
9 440 4,470.01 134.10 4,604.11
10 440 5,044.11 151.32 5,195.43
11 440 5,635.43 169.06 5,804.49
12 440 6,244.49 187.33 6,431.83
13 440 6,871.83 206.15 7,077.98
14 440 7,517.98 225.54 7,743.52
15 440 8,183.52 245.51 8,429.03
16 440 8,869.03 266.07 9,135.10
17 440 9,575.10 287.25 9,862.35
18 440 10,302.35 309.07 10,611.42
19 440 11,051.42 331.54 11,382.96
20 440 11,822.96 354.69 12,177.65
21 440 12,617.65 378.53 12,996.18
22 440 13,436.18 403.09 13,839.27
23 440 14,279.27 428.38 14,707.65

FD = 10,854.73
CHGS = 14,707.65

Difference = CHGS returns is 3,852.92 more if 8% ROI or more EACH YR. Please correct me if I'm wrong again, or the calculation is not fair to both FD & CHGS  smile.gif

Note: If CHGS returns 10% (rm550), then yr 23 = 18,384.56
12% max = 22,061.47


Added on February 20, 2008, 6:07 pmYes, I'm also interested to know also, if I understand correctly, our profit is capped at 12% maximum ROI.

What is the minimum return we can expect ? 0% ? Negative ? Any annual admin fees/charges ?
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Justmua
post Feb 23 2008, 01:53 AM

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Anyone gone to the dinner?

How was it?

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post Feb 23 2008, 09:57 PM

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Dreamer,

The 8% is based on 6K.


QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Feb 23 2008, 09:12 PM)
Jordy,

So, if the price gone up to 6K, the 8% is based on 5.5K or 6K?

Dreamer
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Justmua
post Jun 15 2008, 06:57 PM

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Hi,

Did you pay $7500 for it?


QUOTE(yewkhuay @ Jun 15 2008, 06:55 PM)
i bought 1/2 acre just now as 5-20yrs investment despite the land liquidity issue.

do u think i can squeeze chgs for hotel stay still? tongue.gif
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Justmua
post Sep 8 2008, 09:18 PM

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If I am not wrong, you will wait for 2 more years. The important question to ask would be after the appropriate certificate transfer etc... would the company pay you 8% of $8K or 8% of the original purchase price. I would think it would be the latter since this is based on willing buyer & seller.

People with the know please confirm.


QUOTE(Si|enCer @ Sep 8 2008, 09:10 PM)
Just one simple questions here, sorry if it was asked earlier.

Lets say i buy one lot from a seller for RM8000. Does it mean that i only need to wait 2 years more (at 8% annual interest) before the plantation mature and start yielding 11-15% interest? Or every change of owner, we have to wait three years again?
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post Sep 11 2008, 11:34 AM

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I've got confirmation that 8% is based on the original price, if the transaction is based on willing buyer/seller basis without involvement of the mgmt company. If you buy from the mgmt comp, then will be based on prevailing done price.

Am trying to confirm that the subsequent return (after planting stage) is also based on original price, if transaction is based on willing buyer/seller.
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Yeap - confirmed. All subsequent return will be based on the original price.

So, be careful investors. If you buy directly from a seller (other than the company), your returns are always based on the original purchase price.. (& not the price you paid)


QUOTE(Jordy @ Sep 8 2008, 09:33 PM)
It is 8% on the going-price. If the price now is RM8,000, you would be getting 8% based on this price.
Likewise, if the price is RM9,000, then you would be getting 8% based on this price.
But I have forgotten most of the details though. Might need to refer back to your agents smile.gif
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This post has been edited by Justmua: Sep 11 2008, 04:57 PM
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post Feb 8 2011, 10:57 AM

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[attachmentid=2032658]

Received a CHGS eNett Yield Form in PDF format this morning. Anyone wishing to register for direct crediting into your bank must filled up this form.

I attach the file for your convenience.

Justmua
post Feb 4 2012, 09:16 PM

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What is the dividend rate?

QUOTE(500Kmission @ Feb 4 2012, 07:46 PM)
According to officer in CHGS, mid of feb will transfer money to your account if you have give account number to CHGS.
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Justmua
post Mar 15 2013, 06:52 PM

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Just received the cheque.
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post May 2 2013, 03:54 PM

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Likely so.... It is common.

QUOTE(netcrawler @ Apr 30 2013, 10:48 PM)
When will they start paying the remaining 12% dividend and our 90% grower fee. Wait till last day of 6 months?
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Justmua
post Jun 1 2013, 09:04 AM

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What do you mean? What's ICT?

QUOTE(neyoyo @ Jun 1 2013, 01:36 AM)
This company is been used as example by ICT
Wonder are they related?
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Justmua
post Aug 23 2013, 04:29 PM

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Read http://www.chgs.com.my/

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post Aug 23 2013, 04:35 PM

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The only sensible thing to do...

QUOTE(squall_12 @ Aug 23 2013, 04:30 PM)
let wait for it as we have already waited this long.
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Justmua
post Aug 26 2013, 12:11 PM

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If you want to ask, the right party to ask now is the trustee, as the ball is in their court already. CHGS is no longer in control of the money nor the distribution.


QUOTE(nfc @ Aug 26 2013, 11:57 AM)
I email to ask when can I expect to receive the refund
below is the reply....probably mid of next month
Dear Sir/Mdm,

We had deposited the money with CIMB Commerce Trusteee Berhad (The 90% and also the 25 Million Goodwill )

The trustee are now arranging for the disbursement of the cheques to the growers. You will most probably get the cheque by mid of next month (September).

Thank you


Regards,

Country Heights Grower Scheme
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Justmua
post Aug 26 2013, 11:25 PM

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For those of you who really really must know the exact timing, why don't you ask directly from the horse's mouth. Then share the news with everyone here.


CIMB Commerce Trustee Berhad [313031-A]
Level 7, Wisma AmanahRaya
Jalan Semantan, Bukit Damansara
50490 Kuala Lumpur
Tel : 03-2084 8888
Fax : 03-2095 5469


QUOTE(netcrawler @ Aug 26 2013, 06:53 PM)
Previously, the trustee said they will disburse the money in 2 weeks. Look like it would take more that a month after Tan Sri handed over money which is at 6th of August. Trustee get a lot of dividend smile.gif
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