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 Country Heights Grower Scheme (CHGS), anyone heard before?

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Denniston
post Jan 21 2013, 07:41 PM

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Dear all

I'm reaching out to all stakeholders of this scheme.
Some of you have already been informed by CHGS that a Voluntary Termination of the scheme has been proposed, and that it shall be passed upon approval of 3/4 in value of Growers present in the forthcoming General Meeting.
I find the following facts to be incredulous:
1) The GM is scheduled on 8/2/2013 i.e. the day before CNY reunion dinner. This restricts the attendance of many outstation growers who have to travel back to their respective hometowns. I find this rather suspicious as it is likely to reduce the number of attendees for the GM.
2) 10% of our investment shall be paid within 30 days, BUT 90% shall be spread over 2 years AND there may be NO GUARANTEE that we may be paid in full.
3) The "rationale" behind the termination is flimsy at best:
i) Soil Fertility - Was there not a proper soil investigation conducted prior to launching such schemes? Obviously, either such investigations were flawed or the company chose to overlook some risks/assumptions;
ii) Uncompromising Terrain - Did the site SUDDENLY become hilly which "affected the average number of palm stands that can be achieved"? Surely a feasibility study would have pointed that out before a single seed was planted.
I do not wish to pre-judge the GM but I have plenty of questions to ask. However, I fear the numbers may be few and far between. I therefore wish to spread the word of the importance of the meeting amongst growers and what is at stake.
Denniston
post Jan 21 2013, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Jan 21 2013, 08:32 PM)
Major shareholder trying to use current low CPO price to "sapu" minority shareholder's stake ? Now the CPO price is low, the valuation will also be low. From what I heard, even if the CPO price is at RM1500-RM1800, plantation can still breakeven.

Re-look at the original agreement. What are the rights of the minority shareholders ?

Some of the possible steps to take :

request the company to appoint an adviser for minority shareholders. The advisor is usually a consultant from audit firm. He/she should be given time to study and advise the minority shareholder what is the best course of action.

Make complaints to BNM/SC. Ask them for advise

Get a lawyer and apply for interim injunction to have more time to study the agenda
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That's great help EddyLB. Thanks.
However, I still think more stakeholders (basically the minority ones) should be made aware of the GM and that a collective voice would need to go up against the "big fish" if there is a need.

Denniston
post Feb 7 2013, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(FALSEALIAS @ Feb 7 2013, 09:03 PM)
?!!!

WTH IS WRONG WITH EVERYBODY?

WHY THE PREMATURE VICTORY CELEBRATIONS?

ALL WE HAVE CURRENTLY IS A BUNCH OF WORDS THAT IS NOT ADMISSIBLE OR ENFORCEABLE IN COURT.

WITH NOTHING IN BLACK & WHITE - THIS IS JUST A WHOLE LOT OF RUBBISH TO SWAY VOTING DECISION.

THE PAPER MAY HAVE EVEN MISQUOTED HIM... THATS EXACTLY WHY PAPERS FREQUENTLY ISSUE RETRACTIONS!

LKY'S 'PERSONAL GUARANTEE' MEANS LESS THAN TOILET PAPER... I REMEMBER ANOTHER PERSONAL GUARANTEE TOO > 'INVEST IN CERTAINTY'... HOW DID THAT TURN OUT?

MAKE NO MISTAKE - LKY'S WORDS ARE USELESS IF NOT LEGALLY BINDING IN BLACK OR WHITE OR EVEN REALISTICALLY ENFORCEABLE (MEANING, WHAT HAPPENS IF HE DIES? OR DECLARES BANKRUPTCY? OR ABSCONDS TO A DIFF COUNTRY?OR IS FIRED/RETIRES/DECLARED INSANE/UNFIT TO CARRY OUT DUTIES... OR A THOUSAND OTHER LOOPHOLES THAT MAY MYSTERIOUSLY APPEAR LIKE THE PREVIOUS RAMPAGING ELEPHANTS, TEMPESTUOUS WEATHER, SUDDEN MAGICAL TERRAIN SHIFTS, ETC)

...HAVE WE NOT HAD ENOUGH OF HIS BULLSHIT?

WHY DID HE SUDDENLY DECIDE TO OFFER 'RM25 million' AND 'I will ensure that the growers will be compensated within six months instead of the two year timeline stipulated in the circular.'?

IF HE TRULY MEANT 'out of goodwill' > BOTH THE ABOVE WOULD/SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE VERY INITIAL AGM LETTER!!!

SO, WHY THE SUDDEN LARGESSE IN THE LAST MINUTE?

...SIMPLY COZ HE WAS CALLED ON HIS BULLSHIT SHODDY BULLYING UNDERHANDED TACTICS & KNOWS THAT THERE'S NO WAY HE'S GONNA GET MAJORITY NOW - SO BETTER CHANGE TACTIC & GIVE BS NON-ENFORCEABLE VERBAL ASSURANCES & TRY TO PERSUADE FOOLS TO BITE THE BAIT SO HE CAN GET THE VOTES.

HAS ANYONE EVEN CALCULATED WHETHER 'RM25 million' IS ENOUGH TO COVER THE 12% DIVIDEND FOR ALL GROWERS? PLEASE DO SO & POST UR FINDINGS HERE.

BOTTOMLINE:

VOTING AGAINST VT ONLY STRENGTHENS OUR ABILITY TO GET OUR 12% DIVIDEND & ROC WITHIN 6 MONTHS, AS WE'LL BE THE ONES HOLDING THE POWER & CAN DICTATE THE VT TERMS (WHICH LKY HAS ALREADY SO-CALLED AGREED TO BASED ON THE ARTICLE - MEANING ITS A SLAM DUNK FOR US ANYWAY... WITH THE DIFFERENCE BEING WE STILL RETAIN THE POWER IN CASE HE TRIES ANYTHING IN THE LAST MINUTE). SO, VOTING AGAINST VT IS INSURANCE FOR US TO ENSURE LKY COMPLIES & FULFILS WHAT HE SAYS IN THE ARTICLE -  BECAUSE WE'RE THE ONES IN CONTROL!

VOTING FOR VT ONLY WEAKENS OUR POSSIBILITY TO GET WHAT WE WANT AS (CURRENTLY) IT'S ONLY MERE WORDS BY LKY & NOTHING IS LEGALLY BINDING. HE CAN JUST AS EASILY RELEASE A PRESS STATEMENT LATER SAYING, "I CHANGED MY MIND. TOO BAD. HAPPY CNY"... AND THERE'S NOTHING WHICH CAN BE DONE AS WE HAVE GIVEN AWAY OUR ONE AND ONLY (ALL POWERFUL!) BARGAINING CHIP. CHGS WOULD THEN HOLD THE ENTIRE POWER - & WE'D HAVE NO INSURANCE AGAINST THEM TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE... & LETS NOT FORGET THEIR HORRIFIC RECENT TRACK RECORD OF NOT HONOURING THEIR WORD/TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF US... NEED I SAY MORE?

LOOK, IF LKY REALLY MEANT TO GIVE US 12% & A FULL ROC WITHIN 6 MONTHS - ALL HE HAD TO DO WAS CALL OFF THE AGM TOMORROW, REWRITE THE TERMS OF THE VT TO INCLUDE THE LATEST 2 AMENDED PROVISOS, GIVE US OUR 21 DAYS AGM NOTICE & THEN PROCEED TO HAVE A VOTE UNDER THE NEW VT TERMS.... DID HE DO THAT.... NO!

END OF THE DAY, YOU MAKE YOUR OWN DECISIONS & YOU LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES.
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[COLOR=blue]You are absolutely right. There is a sense that LKY is starting to panic and he's doing the politician's dance to get what he wants.
I honestly don't mind VT, but only if the conditions are right and there is a legal agreement to do so.
However, if the conditions remain as it is, I'm willing to risk my money just to see LKY squirm and reveal what he is REALLY trying to do.
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post Feb 8 2013, 05:11 PM

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The meeting was conducted in a civil manner. There wasn't any disorder, even though some growers were emotional.
However, LKY was rather long-winded about a lot of unsubstantiated "facts" and more interested in putting on a show to convince growers. Consequently, he had declared the following:
1) He will personally commit to RM25 million to pay for this year's yield;
2) 10% of capital to be returned to growers within a month;
3) Remaining 90% to be returned within 6 months.
His lawyer explained that his declaration is a verbal offer and is contract binding, substantiated by the Trustee which stated that these revised conditions have been recorded in the minutes. A vote for VT would be an acceptance of those terms.
A motion was proposed to adjourn the meeting for the growers and proxies to consider the legal ramifications of the offer and have it recorded as a formal condition. However, LKY rejected that motion, and the Trustee claimed that this was not permitted under Companies Act (verification required).
At this point, quite a few growers had already made up their minds and began submitting their votes in the ballot boxes and left the meeting.

Attached is a photo of the number of growers who showed up.


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Denniston
post Feb 8 2013, 05:23 PM

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Let's see if LKY lives up to his word, and not his alleged notorious reputation.

 

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