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 Country Heights Grower Scheme (CHGS), anyone heard before?

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post Jan 22 2013, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(sam sam @ Jan 22 2013, 06:28 PM)
not to sound supportive of the move
the article when read mentions that the refund be done in full

with a comment from the advisers that they may not be able to pay in full due to the lower assets
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You still trust them? They said "invest with certainty". How it turn out to be now?
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post Jan 22 2013, 09:57 PM

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Make it big. Didn't see it reported by the media yet.

Do it before general election so that hopefully the politicians will do their best to help.

At least see what Ng Yen Yen can do after she endorsed the scheme to public

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post Jan 23 2013, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(truth_seeker_09 @ Jan 23 2013, 09:53 AM)
what i meant is instead of return money...
give us share? in case cannot pay back us 2012 interest and principal amount.

Btw, another question, each of us bought the plot with different price... they will return us with what amount? eg. you buy with 7000.. u get 8000(last selling price?), 7000(Purchased price) or 5000(first launched price)?
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Should be based on issuance price.
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post Jan 23 2013, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(truth_seeker_09 @ Jan 23 2013, 09:45 AM)
Can this grower plan merge to the mother listed company ?
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You still want to be in the same bed with Country Heights?
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post Jan 23 2013, 10:01 AM

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What is happening to the scheme give Country Heights and the boss a bad name already
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post Jan 23 2013, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(kinwing @ Jan 23 2013, 10:35 AM)
I got LKY's 3 daughters punya FB, but don't feel good to put their link here or else their pages will be flooded with complain, ahaha. tongue.gif
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WAHHH... u targeting people's daughters?
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post Jan 23 2013, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(kinwing @ Jan 23 2013, 11:01 AM)
Anyway, I feel the manager is not doing his job in protecting the interest of minoirty shareholders and give the promised yield of 8% to 12% as promised.

If the company terminate earlier and only returning our capital in 2 years later, most probably the company has breached the agreement of giving a guaranteed YTM of 8% to 12%, so we could sue the company on this basis.

Or we could just fire the manager and run the company by ourselves since the company has planted palm oil for almsot 5 years and I think it's time for us to ripe off the benefit from mature of palm oil yield by ourselves.

No way they can kick us out by getting cheap fund from us and sharing their risk to us in the initial stage and now try to kick us out when time to ripe fruits without sharing the return back to minority shareholders. A typical situation head you win, tail we lose!!!
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Guaranteed? Mere lip service if the guarantee is not backed by any assets
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post Jan 23 2013, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Jan 23 2013, 12:58 PM)
Dear all, I just came to know that there's such thread exist on LYN for this GHGS, well, I do not have the time to go through the whole thread, at least I will view all the posts after the circular date i.e. 17 January 2013.

I personally not an investor in this, but my family members are, I have also just briefly read the circular a little, and according to my understanding from my dad about the scheme, I feel it's really a big rip off from the management, I personally think this termination is crap.

I feel like reading the "termination" clause of the scheme in the Trust Teed dated 2 March 2007, according to the circular, pursuant to clause 17.7, GHGS may voluntarily terminate by resolution passed by a majority in number representing ¾ in value of the Growers present in person or by proxy at that meeting.

Do anyone of you have sighted the trust deed before? This trust deed was draft in such a way that it only protect the majority shareholders.

Can we roughly know what are the numbers are we expecting at the meeting and the numbers of voting against this termination?
It says by a ¾ in value, I feel they themselves and their proxies would have already out-numbered everyone of us (minority) present at the meeting.

I feel it is time, for all the minority like us, to put up a fight/strong will to oppose against the big guns.

What are the consequences of not terminating this scheme?

I will join the facebook page later, cant access it in the office.
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Make it big and attract public's attention. At least this will exert some pressure on the company...
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post Jan 24 2013, 04:27 PM

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Another similar scheme by Golden Palm has its plantation at Gua Musang as well.

Do they face the same problems?
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post Jan 24 2013, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(hyh78 @ Jan 24 2013, 04:43 PM)
Not sure....take care of ourselves first... sad.gif
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What I was trying to express was that we can compare whether Golden Palm has the same difficulty as with Country Heights. We can look at their yield etc. If not, Country Heights may have bullshit us to sell it cheap to them
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post Jan 28 2013, 11:30 AM

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We should ask the management to elaborated on the 5 reasons given why the scheme did not work out well.

Soil - didn't the company survey before buying the land?

Terrain - didn't the company survey before buying the land? Did the terrain changed substantially after the purchase?

Incursions of elephant - The extent of damage. A type of tree can be planted to deter elephant

Workers - How serious is the labour shortage

Weather - Was there inclement weather as compared to rainfalls in previous years.

Probe into these questions and they may reveal the incompentency of the manegement
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post Jan 30 2013, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(kinwing @ Jan 30 2013, 09:17 AM)

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post Jan 30 2013, 02:38 PM

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Maybe demonstration at their office before the EGM helps? At least it helps to attract the attention of the media and regulators, maybe?
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post Feb 2 2013, 11:03 PM

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Why the inconsistency? Was this done intentionally?

http://bursastocktalk.blogspot.com/2013/02...scheme-why.html

In the Country Heights Grower Scheme prospectus dated 8 June 2012, they include the financial statement of the management company, which showed the company has been profitable since 2007 (see page 38 of the prospectus)

However, when it comes to the proposed voluntary termination of the scheme, Gua Musang plantation account, which is less impressive was used instead.

Why the inconsistency? One is to attract investors and the other is for the termination the scheme. But for the same scheme, why different accounts were used? Good if Tan Sri can explain this to the growers.
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post Feb 4 2013, 04:56 PM

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Anyone kind enough to share the highlights of the forum held at MSWG earlier today?
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post Feb 6 2013, 02:14 PM

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What's the outcome of the general meeting?
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post Feb 6 2013, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Feb 6 2013, 03:00 PM)
The General Meeting will only be held this Friday, 8 Feb 2013. They need 75% votes, either by in-person or by proxy.

Watch out for some not clean tactics to deny certain proxy holders from attending and/or voting.
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Oh ya, today is the closing date for submission of proxy forms. Mixed up already. Too kan chiong.

 

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