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abm
post Apr 17 2024, 11:12 AM

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I’m not surprised many people kena. Not because they don’t know, but sometimes overlooked.
Any reason why they don’t want to just use AM/PM?
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post Apr 17 2024, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Apr 17 2024, 11:14 AM)
need to write AM/PM, pagi/petang, morning and night all or not?
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Just AM/PM will reduce a lot of such issue. No need pagi/petang, morning and night.
So why airlines don’t want to use AM/PM? I believe AM/PM is well understood internationally.
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post Apr 17 2024, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(xCM @ Apr 17 2024, 02:31 PM)
More like 24h is understood internationally. So why airlines need to use AM/PM? biggrin.gif
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Are you saying using 24h format will have less people overlooking the time than using AM/PM format? That is why they use 24h format?

Are you saying 24h format is more well understood internationally than AM/PM?

This post has been edited by abm: Apr 17 2024, 02:47 PM
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post Apr 17 2024, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(SourLemons @ Apr 17 2024, 03:00 PM)
Yes
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Ok. I respect your opinion although I don’t agree with you.

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post Apr 17 2024, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Apr 17 2024, 04:29 PM)
LMAO not a question of opinion. It is fact and international regulations by ICAO, why airlines use 24h system. Not up to your opinion to decide
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Of course it’s not for me to decide. I’m asking why they chose 24h system instead of AM/PM. Can you answer why?

The opinion part is - will less people overlook the time if AM/PM time is used?

You need to read properly.
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post Apr 17 2024, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Apr 17 2024, 05:38 PM)
definitely 24H is safer.

If am or pm is used, people will tend to misread or didnt award it is am or Pm.

Say 8.30PM. Who knows they didn't pay attention it id PM and thought is 8.30am?

If 8.30pm is in 24H, it is written as 20:30, people will think (difikir) 20:XX is night
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I have different opinion.
When people see 01:00, some may forget to convert (we seldom need to convert in our daily life) and assume it’s 1 pm. Because we usually don’t have appointment at 1am.

With AM/PM there is at least an indicator. With 24H there is no indicator.

For 20:30 i agree, it won’t get mistaken. But for 01:00, it is easier to get mistaken compared to 1AM.

I believe some people may misinterpret the time with AM/PM. But i think chances of misinterpretation of 24h is higher.

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post Apr 17 2024, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Apr 17 2024, 06:22 PM)
Because 24hr clock you make less mistakes when verbally communicating time. Which is why the military uses the 24hr clock.
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Good point. I agree. Verbally it is more clear. I guess the verbal practice is integrated into written practice.

But for the general population we will convert to AM/PM. Since the time is printed on the boarding pass and ticket, i would think it is more convenient for the passengers to print in AM/PM.
It’s not that hard to do with software change.
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post Apr 17 2024, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(jaapers @ Apr 17 2024, 04:14 PM)
Because there's no point migrating from a system that is used by majority of airlines to a lesser used system just to cater to the 0.1% population that has IQ number lower than their age.
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Just convert the time when printing the boarding pass. It’s not a big software change. Compared to the time/money wasted due to misinterpreting of the time. 0.1pct is still a lot. The system can be used for > 10 years before a major upgrade. In those 10 years, how many passengers are saved from misinterpretation of the time.

Of course we can always argue it’s customer’s fault. But it seems to be something worth to change.
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post Apr 19 2024, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(whoopa @ Apr 18 2024, 04:32 AM)
ppl who use AM/PM should know that there is no 01:00 LOL
if you are a user of AM/PM also should realize there is no AM/PM there why assume it is 1PM?

totally dont make sense. if dont know how to use 24H standard should know AM/PM must include AM/PM.
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People overlooked. Forgot to convert. You haven’t overlooked anything before? I have.
Seldom people have activity at 1am. So unintentionally interpreted as 1Pm. Once unintentionally interpreted and set as 1pm, they didn’t think further.


Another thing that is also easy to overlook is eg flight is on 5th 1am. Overlooked and went to airport on 5th 11pm. This one have to blame self.
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post Apr 19 2024, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Apr 17 2024, 07:20 PM)
If what you thought is correct, they won't use  24H globally. You can propose your idea to international body and see how.
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Are you sure it’s used globally. Try to google image of “delta airlines boarding pass” or “delta airlines boarding pass”.

Yah. If I’m too bored and nothing to do i may do that.

If there are airlines using am/pm you should propose your 24h idea to them.
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post Apr 19 2024, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(jaapers @ Apr 17 2024, 07:24 PM)
You should ask why would they bother to cater to stupid people?
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I believe most of them either overlooked or lack of knowledge.
You never overlooked something in your life?

Why not cater to them if there is significant people faced this problem?
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post Apr 19 2024, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Apr 17 2024, 09:35 PM)
Cause he's one of them
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You haven’t replied to my comment.
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post Apr 19 2024, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Apr 17 2024, 06:22 PM)
Because 24hr clock you make less mistakes when verbally communicating time. Which is why the military uses the 24hr clock.
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I agree 24h less mistake.
But in our daily life we use am/pm. We are not in the military. Why not use something that we are familiar with?
Do you convert to AM/PM in your mind when you see 24h format?
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post Apr 19 2024, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Apr 19 2024, 12:48 AM)
Nope. Maybe it is just you.

I'm fine with 24hr clock. I don't need to convert to 12hr clock to know what time it is.
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Good for you if you are telling yourself to meet someone at 16 o’clock instead of 4 oclock. I believe majority will convert.
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post Apr 19 2024, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(jaapers @ Apr 19 2024, 01:34 AM)
Let me end your argument here
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This guy made mistake because another airline used the AM/PM system, wouldn't have made the mistake if it was using the military time.  So which idiot deserves more catering to?  At least this guy didnt say it was the airline's fault.
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Even if you put both military time and am/pm time there will still be someone who will make a mistake. My point is I believe putting am/pm will have less mistake. Are you saying putting military time will have less mistakes?

This guy’smistake is a big overlook. It’s not because he doesn’t understand AM/PM. He looked at 11 thinking it is 1.

In normal cases if airlines put 11pm and the person overlooked thinking is 11:00, he still would not have missed the flight.

As for blaming the airline, I don’t agree with that. I never said i agree it’s the airlines fault.
I do think using am/pm will reduce such mistakes.

This post has been edited by abm: Apr 19 2024, 03:10 PM
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post Apr 19 2024, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(jaapers @ Apr 19 2024, 01:17 AM)
I have overlooked stuff but i don't blame others for my mistake.  I don't expect other people to cater to my mistake, I'm not brought up to be entitled like that.
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I never agreed blaming airlines is correct. I don’t agree with the person mentioned in the news article blaming the airline.
I’m just saying if airlines use am/pm i think will reduce(won’t totally eliminate) such issues.

This post has been edited by abm: Apr 19 2024, 03:14 PM

 

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