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post Apr 15 2024, 03:11 PM

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Yes...and I have to downvolt + limit power for my 14700k to prevent high temperature...cilaka

In fact AMD CPU and GPU now is the best performance/price. If not because of Intel's good marketing...

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post Apr 15 2024, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(pandah @ Apr 15 2024, 03:28 PM)
big reduction in performance? Or generally not noticeable?
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Not noticeable when I did benchmarking but the temperature reduction is a lot. From going over 100c and gets thermal throttled before the manual tuning to around 90c after tuning. And this is with AIO some more.

QUOTE(imbibug @ Apr 15 2024, 03:29 PM)
The 14700 is not a bad cpu, its just that Intel wants to win and be no. 1  at everything at any cost it seems. Lowering the PL1/PL2/Icc is not going destroy performance, its still going to be good and generate alot less heat.
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Exactly but the problem is general consumer don't know or won't know about these things...they just want to use it out of the box and seeing this kind of temperature will scare the shit out of them. In fact it scares the shit out of me the first time I saw the temperature also.

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post Apr 15 2024, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Apr 15 2024, 05:04 PM)
You use O11 fish tank case sure will easily overheat coz these cases have pisspoor airflow. Get a Lancool3 with the same parts inside and temps will be much different
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Fish tank case more cantik tongue.gif At first I want to for O11 Vision some more...that 1 the airflow lagi teruk


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post Apr 15 2024, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Apr 15 2024, 05:52 PM)
You traded performance for looks so dont complain lar  tongue.gif 

In fish tanks you cannot push to the max so its really a balance of keeping temps in check just for the looks. For such usage I would prefer nonK CPU less temp headaches.
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Haha it's not the best but certainly not the worst. In fact can still put 7 case fans + 3 fans for AIO ma tongue.gif

Also don't really need to push the CPU to the max since game nowadays are heavily on GPU itself...so can maintain balance between temperature and performance for the CPU already cukup makan

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post Feb 9 2025, 02:51 PM

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Just to share I finally switch out the backplate to the Thermalright one. It helps about 5-10c! Previously I underclock and undervolt it by setting PL1 to 125w and PL2 to 180w before it gets thermal throttling but now it can go up to 200-220w for PL2! Not that it matters much in day to day usage or gaming but just good to see the temp gets good and since the backplate is not that expensive. But I still couldn't get it to 253W cause it'll get thermal throttling half way. Room ambient temperature probably about 26c since no aircon.

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post Feb 9 2025, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Feb 9 2025, 06:04 PM)
Backplate? You mean the ILM bracket holding the CPU rite?
Yeah similar to my result too, reduce by 8oC https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=110531724

Your using fishtank case so temps will defo be higher cuz airflow in these type of cases is poor.
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Ya that's right. Was thinking if it's placebo effect until I finally made the decision to do it. So just want to share here again to let others know it really works haha.

But I didn't do it as meticulous as what you shared in your thread. I just screw it tight and that's all lol

Was thinking my AIO is not good enough but then I want an all Lian Li setup that's why I go for this. If the AIO is the Artic Liquid Freezer III then the temperature will probably be better.

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post Feb 9 2025, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Feb 9 2025, 07:04 PM)
Haha cuz I heard its high risk to screw RAM stability due to wrongly tighten down with unequal pressure, having to redo RAM tuning & testing, stability issue whatnot. Hell no I will go thru that after 2 weeks of RAM tuning. Also I want to make sure doing properly will give it best chance to work and doing it methodically isnt that difficult once I understand the concept. But congrats on your results too!

Now I wonder if anyone will do for LGA1851 as well haha.
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LOL if I want to change CPU next time I will skip Intel for a while until they fixed their shit.

 

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