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 Intel 13th/14th gen cpus crashing, degrading

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post Apr 21 2024, 03:39 PM

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Im glad i went with amd am5

Considered getting 12/13th gen i5 1X400 chip...

But the no upgrade path after 14th gen made me reconsidered.
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post Apr 21 2024, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(stella_purple @ Apr 21 2024, 05:36 PM)
am5 got its own problem as well
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For me..hvnt encountered any..
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post Jul 27 2024, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jul 27 2024, 06:18 PM)
Do they affect desktop processor only or mobile too?

Just bought a gaming laptop with i5 13500HX for my son. Never crash or anything. Maybe only affect i7 and i9.
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intel said only desktop
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post Jul 27 2024, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jul 27 2024, 11:12 PM)
Not really. It seems like mobile also affected but currently highly suspect i9 and some i7. No one mentioned i5 though but the increase E cores in HX does worry me a little.
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officially they said desktop only

i5 i7 i9 are all affected

but they degrade differently
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post Jul 28 2024, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 28 2024, 10:19 AM)
CPU degradation due to excess heat & voltage will affect all to certain levels but on laptops with its poorer heat transfer the effects could happen earlier. This is provided if HX CPU behaves like Ksku where it will ramp above max PBP baseline. As with desktop Ksku my advice would be to manually turn off auto OC and limit PL1 & PL2 to its official max TDP.
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From what i read..there's no permanent fix bcs is a hardware issue.

What intel is doing is just delaying the degradation as much as possible..
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post Jul 28 2024, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 28 2024, 03:26 PM)
Yes and no. The 'fix' will prevent degradation issues on fresh builds or those to be installed (make sure to update bios) as long as you ALSO MUST disable mobo auto OC as it will still break thru the limits set by Intel anyways. Here is what I mean (see timestamp 17:16)


but for those ady with problems, once its broken there is no repair, just RMA it.
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at this point..if someone really wants to buy intel..

just stick to 12th gen or better yet, go for AMD.
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post Jul 28 2024, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 28 2024, 04:04 PM)
13/14Gen nonK dont have these issues...

And AMD also have their own problems

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why take the chance?

also..AMD 9000 series is not released yet..

so we dont really know

but so far 7000 series dont hv major issues like Intel

thus AMD is the safer route.
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post Jul 28 2024, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 28 2024, 04:59 PM)
7000series no major issues? Dont believe all the spiel that fanboys tells you


And 9000series delay due to bugs caught the very last minute up to post shipment. What others still not yet found? As you said we dont really know...

There are no "safer" routes. Want safe & proven, go 12Gen or AM4.
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I forgot about this

But it seems AMD has fixed this issue

But this only affected 7800X3D right?
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post Jul 28 2024, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 28 2024, 07:03 PM)
It took them months to fix last I heard. And it affects all X3Ds but of course 7800X3D are most affected due to best seller. Well if one can forgive AMD certainly same too for Intel, rite?
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If Intel can fix this permanently like AMD..then yes.

If not, Intel should recall or offer free replacement.
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post Aug 8 2024, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Aug 8 2024, 06:44 PM)
depends on publisher,
good publisher like Bethesda who developed Doom series, known for supporting OpenGL at first, then Vulkan rendering support was added later, and all the following games use id Tech 6 and newer have very good performance
Then CDPR released "it just work" game to public, not too bad it still runs like crap, they did keep updating the games.

they collect your system data when crash or probably have telemetry enabled, then optimize accordingly.
Square Enix knows of slow update iirc, most of my Tomb raider games dont get update as much as the other AAA game publisher.

unlike some publisher called ubi kentang lol
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id software developed Doom

Bethesda is the publisher

bethesda can only develop something like starfield..

which is an abomination when it comes to optimisation when compared to doom

 

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