Qualcomm says their snapdragon has 45TOPS, I wonder what 45TOPS do in real life, does it need online wifi to use the 45TOPS. Really confusing this windows on snapdragon with AI

Do they affect desktop processor only or mobile too?

Just bought a gaming laptop with i5 13500HX for my son. Never crash or anything. Maybe only affect i7 and i9.

Its still a HX CPU, so its not such a good idea to let it boost to 157W in such a small chassis.

intel said only desktop

Not really. It seems like mobile also affected but currently highly suspect i9 and some i7. No one mentioned i5 though but the increase E cores in HX does worry me a little.

officially they said desktop only

i5 i7 i9 are all affected

but they degrade differently

CPU degradation due to excess heat & voltage will affect all to certain levels but on laptops with its poorer heat transfer the effects could happen earlier. This is provided if HX CPU behaves like Ksku where it will ramp above max PBP baseline. As with desktop Ksku my advice would be to manually turn off auto OC and limit PL1 & PL2 to its official max TDP.

From what i read..there's no permanent fix bcs is a hardware issue.

What intel is doing is just delaying the degradation as much as possible..

Yes and no. The 'fix' will prevent degradation issues on fresh builds or those to be installed (make sure to update bios) as long as you ALSO MUST disable mobo auto OC as it will still break thru the limits set by Intel anyways. Here is what I mean (see timestamp 17:16)


but for those ady with problems, once its broken there is no repair, just RMA it.

at this point..if someone really wants to buy intel..

just stick to 12th gen or better yet, go for AMD.

13/14Gen nonK dont have these issues...

And AMD also have their own problems

why take the chance?

also..AMD 9000 series is not released yet..

so we dont really know

but so far 7000 series dont hv major issues like Intel

thus AMD is the safer route.

wifi ?? in what sense the TOPS has anything to do with WIFI and Internet??


1. TOPS = Trillion Operation Per Seconds. , something like TFlops in GPU/CPU

2. The WHOLE POINT of AI Processor in SoC = RUN AI calculation LOCALLY

3. The higher the TOPS, the more responsive the AI Apps.


What confusing????

THis is already AS PLAIN AS POSSIBLE...

7000series no major issues? Dont believe all the spiel that fanboys tells you


And 9000series delay due to bugs caught the very last minute up to post shipment. What others still not yet found? As you said we dont really know...

There are no "safer" routes. Want safe & proven, go 12Gen or AM4.

I heard some hardware (recent Xeons iinm) needs a special softkey to unlock full potential so it may be that certain hardware needs persistent internet connection to have full access? But that would be really scummy similar to many AAA games.

I forgot about this

But it seems AMD has fixed this issue

But this only affected 7800X3D right?

stop confusing yourself with many inaccurate info that dont link together.

1. Intel has a special plan in Server SoC Market, they locked certain of their proc feature behind Paywall.

2. Server is and always working ONLINE ( connected )


Even intel itself do not apply this plan on PC/Mobile market.

Companies like to milk as much money from customers. If they could do that to server market, whos to say they wont try it with consumer market?
Game industry is prime example, what used to be fluff addons DLCS in some games can be the difference between winning & losing. While it may not be true for now, its uncertain what might be for near future CPUS or even GPUS (possible future might sell you a RTX 9900 for the price of 9800 but you have to pay yearly subscription to unlock to 9900)

It took them months to fix last I heard. And it affects all X3Ds but of course 7800X3D are most affected due to best seller. Well if one can forgive AMD certainly same too for Intel, rite?

If Intel can fix this permanently like AMD..then yes.

If not, Intel should recall or offer free replacement.