dia ni faham ke tidak how attack works?
No need to panic about increase in cyber attacks
No need to panic about increase in cyber attacks
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Apr 2 2024, 02:12 PM
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dia ni faham ke tidak how attack works?
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Apr 2 2024, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(haya @ Apr 2 2024, 01:44 PM) Tell me you don't know about data quality without telling me you don't know about data quality. Staff ID is not PII.. nobody care a shit what is your Staff ID .Your question was "like my ID , name has 24 version across different Government DB?" If you know how systems are developed by people who have a different concepts to "First name" and "last name" than Malaysia, yes, the same people can appear multiple times with different primary keys. The NRIC number does help a bit, but as the Malindo data leak shows, IC number 00112233-44-5566 can be associated with 2 records: First name = Tan; Last name = Ah Beng First name = Ah Beng; Last name = Tan The AirAsia leak doesn't have NRIC number, but someone like Mohammad Najib bin Tun Haji Abdul Razak can be: Mhd Najib bin Abdul Razak, Staff ID 1111 Najib bin Abdul Razak, Staff ID 2222 Najib bin Razak, Staff ID 3333 Najib bin Tun Abdul Razak, Staff ID 4444 Najib bin Tun Haji Abdul Razak, Staff ID 5555 Why do you think even the attackers to AirAsia decided to flip table? And banks? Once upon a time Tawi Sli had a FD opened in 1980 under his old IC number of K123456. 40 years later he opens a new account to receive BR1M/BSH/BPR/SARA using the new IC number of 120612-13-0000. Yes they're supposed to search for existing records based on name and Date of Birth, but if you know how front facing staff are like in Malaysia, easier to just create a new database entry. |
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Apr 2 2024, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Apr 2 2024, 10:45 AM) https://soyacincau.com/2022/05/17/personal-...pr-sold-online/"actifedot" ![]() |
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Apr 2 2024, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Apr 2 2024, 02:04 PM) try harder. I didn't say that IC number changes between organisations.IC Number Phone Number First Name, Last Name Address Once leaked = Leaked. Try spin. IC Number record of Malaysian are different from bank to bank, govt agency to agency My contact number record in bank also they cant record correctly My address? also. all record wrong. YOu think this is possible??? They all have our IC Number, Phone number, address record incorrectly ( because you believe they all record DIFFERENT ) I dont have time to debate for childish reason. You already made statement based on nonsense, why try so hard to defend it??? I said in some data stores, can be old IC number, other data store, can be 'new' IC number They will come up as 2 different entries in the database for the same person People change phone numbers People move house and change address They're supposed to update the existing record instead of creating a new record. But as I said, go and look at the AirAsia and Malindo data breaches. One last thing: today you are born as Ting Ah Ming, IC Number A123456. Convert to Islam, become Fatimah Abdullah, IC number 112233-44-5566. They're supposed to cross check with the new IC number with the old IC number. But you'll be surprised how often this doesn't happen. Not to mention that a lot of them hide their pre-conversion names. And Fatimah Abdullah, IC number 112233-44-5566 may be blacklisted, but the person just uses the Ting Ah Ming, IC Number A123456 identity. I'm not in the business of converting the unbelieving. |
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Apr 2 2024, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(haya @ Apr 2 2024, 02:16 PM) I didn't say that IC number changes between organisations. my friend...I said in some data stores, can be old IC number, other data store, can be 'new' IC number They will come up as 2 different entries in the database for the same person People change phone numbers People move house and change address They're supposed to update the existing record instead of creating a new record. But as I said, go and look at the AirAsia and Malindo data breaches. One last thing: today you are born as Ting Ah Ming, IC Number A123456. Convert to Islam, become Fatimah Abdullah, IC number 112233-44-5566. They're supposed to cross check with the new IC number with the old IC number. But you'll be surprised how often this doesn't happen. Not to mention that a lot of them hide their pre-conversion names. And Fatimah Abdullah, IC number 112233-44-5566 may be blacklisted, but the person just uses the Ting Ah Ming, IC Number A123456 identity. I'm not in the business of converting the unbelieving. Old IC and MyKAD Police ID Army ID ALL ARE DIFFERENT COLUMN IN DATABASE. Different DATA. 2nd. Convert or not Convert ISLAM, ALL MALAYSIAN NEED CONVERT TO NEW IC, regardless their RELIGION |
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Apr 2 2024, 02:22 PM
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just summon Fidao Wrong, he good at viral
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Apr 2 2024, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Apr 2 2024, 02:20 PM) my friend... If you think this has never happened in a DB:Old IC and MyKAD Police ID Army ID ALL ARE DIFFERENT COLUMN IN DATABASE. Different DATA. 2nd. Convert or not Convert ISLAM, ALL MALAYSIAN NEED CONVERT TO NEW IC, regardless their RELIGION
It is not supposed to, they're supposed to use the same ID, but theory and real life and 2 separate things. This post has been edited by haya: Apr 2 2024, 03:14 PM sage61 liked this post
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Apr 2 2024, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(haya @ Apr 2 2024, 03:02 PM) If you think this has never happened in a DB: do u know there is thousand abdul rahman out there?
It is not supposed to, they're supposed to use the same ID, but theory and real life and 2 separate things. since when name is unique indicator?????? |
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Apr 2 2024, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(haya @ Apr 2 2024, 10:12 AM) No need to panic about increase in cyber attacks When THEY TELL YOU NOT TO PANIC, Thats WHEN YOU RUN!! (quote from 2012 movie) KULAI, April 1 (Bernama) -- The public does not need to panic about the daily increase in cyber attacks as the government has several agencies, particularly the National Cyber Security Agency (NACSA), which constantly monitors these matters. Deputy Minister of Communications Teo Nie Ching said cyber attacks, which were done through various platforms, are not new, especially as digital telecommunication networks become more advanced. “So far, the public does not need to worry. Yes, indeed, these matters (cyber attacks) occurred following international situations, especially involving sensitive and hot issues. Because of this, the government has formulated the Cyber Security Bill. “This bill aims to defend the country's critical infrastructure, including data centres, hospitals, banking and communication systems. All of these are very important security assets for the country,” Teo, who is also Kulai MP told reporters after hosting an iftar event in her constituency here on Sunday. Teo also urged the public to remain calm and to continue to trust and have confidence in national security agencies, including the Ministry of Defence and the National Security Council, regarding these cyber threats. “They are among the agencies that can protect sensitive data and information involving national security,” said Teo, who is also the Member of Parliament for Kulai. Last Saturday, Defence Minister Datuk Seri Mohamed Khaled Nordin reportedly said that the country's defence system is subjected to about 3,000 cyber attacks every day, especially after Malaysia declared its support for Palestine. The Dewan Rakyat last Tuesday passed the Cyber Security Bill 2024 aimed at enhancing the country's cyber security through compliance with specific measures, standards, and processes in managing cyber security threats. Digital Minister Gobind Singh Deo was reported to have said that according to the bill, there are 11 sectors defined as Critical National Information Infrastructure (CNII) sectors, including government, banking and finance, transportation, defence and national security, as well as information, communication, and digital sectors. -- BERNAMA Source: https://www.bernama.com/en/region/news.php?id=2284580 |
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Apr 2 2024, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Apr 2 2024, 03:29 PM) You asked how can be duplicatedI just gave you a example In this case, the same person has multiple entries because used different identifiers over time. You can't tell just from looking at the data whether there are 4 different people with the same name, or the same person with different identifiers over the course of their life. |
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Apr 2 2024, 03:33 PM
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Apr 2 2024, 03:35 PM
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Apr 2 2024, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(brkli @ Apr 2 2024, 02:14 PM) But take the Malindo data leak, with name, DOB, flight history (with Malindo), enrich it with AirAsia data leak, which contains the answers to the secret questions they have for account recovery.Look at the answers to the questions you have for account recovery. Can know a lot about a person. |
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Apr 2 2024, 03:42 PM
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They should be hiring hackers. Not those fresh grad from X institute who just wants a job.
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Apr 2 2024, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(haya @ Apr 2 2024, 03:02 PM) If you think this has never happened in a DB: so in your theory, Malaysia only have one Abdul Rahman Hashim? wokie..
It is not supposed to, they're supposed to use the same ID, but theory and real life and 2 separate things. |
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Apr 2 2024, 04:43 PM
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Actually, scammers won't care about the individuals. The easiest way will just be to mass spam the emails and phone numbers. Can get 1 out of 10000 also kira good liao.
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Apr 2 2024, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(haya @ Apr 2 2024, 03:33 PM) You asked how can be duplicated my original post :I just gave you a example In this case, the same person has multiple entries because used different identifiers over time. You can't tell just from looking at the data whether there are 4 different people with the same name, or the same person with different identifiers over the course of their life. Your Sensitive Info Leaked = LEAKED. Sensitive info : Unique Phone Number Unique National ID Mother Name Address I have multiple entries in Maybank, so what? got many account mah... even under normal circumstances, Duplicate info = Problem?? = Bug?? How is duplicated info = Problem? They still manage to pin point to the actual person. ( if this info leaked = not affected that person?? ) As long as the info is correct, point to me. That info leaked = leaked. |
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Apr 3 2024, 10:00 AM
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Jun 5 2024, 11:23 AM
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'It wasn't me': Similar strangers given same ID in Japan
Japan Tuesday, 04 Jun 2024 9:08 PM MYT TOKYO (AFP): A foreign resident of Japan unwittingly lived under a fake identity for six months until it came to light that he had been mixed up with an uncannily similar stranger. The man in his 20s went to register his residency status at Tokushima City Hall in western Japan in November, an official from the municipality told AFP on Tuesday. But in a bureaucratic blunder, he was assigned the identity of a completely different person -- who had the same name, same nationality and even the same birthday. When the man came to city hall, staff searched the national ID number registry and found that someone with the same details lived in another city, the official said. After exchanges with the man, who spoke minimal Japanese, the staff mistakenly understood that he was moving from one city to another, and attached the existing residency details to him. Half a year later, the national pension service noticed that something was up, and informed the city of their error. "We have learned that there is still room for error" even when proper steps are taken, the Tokushima official said, declining to identify either of the doppelgangers-on-paper. The other person had already left Japan, meaning the mistake did not come to light sooner, he added. Japan launched an ID number system called "My Number" in 2015, but some people have said the new system risks human errors and data leaks. - AFP Source: https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanp...ame-id-in-japan |
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