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 Very few Malaysians can afford to reitre.. SAD!

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ozak
post Mar 14 2024, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Mar 14 2024, 09:48 AM)
Unker plan to continue sell on Shopee from my parent home until I die.

My monthly commitment very very low. Stay with parents, have 3 meals at home. If one day can find rm100 I happy already.
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What is your monthly commtment?
ozak
post Mar 14 2024, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Mar 14 2024, 09:57 AM)
Insurance, meals, bills, petrol, car maintenance, etc
I try to keep it low within rm2k-rm3k.
Cukur no big commitments and b40 waifu working got own income.
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900k with 3.5% inflation can makan till you 90yrs old. If expenses is 3k and average 6.1% div.

That still left you 400k incase you cannot die at 90 or some T20 funeral cost.
ozak
post Mar 14 2024, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Mar 14 2024, 10:07 AM)
What makes u think 900k is within reach of most Msian? 6.1% div get from where?
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If you cannot reach 900k, lower down your expenses. Get your butt out and work.

You can get 6.1% from maybank. And even much more in another market. Learn and work harder to find. Not difficult.


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post Mar 14 2024, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(johnny82 @ Mar 14 2024, 09:56 AM)
lol no way u can retire with 600k nowadays
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What are your monthly expenses and expecting life?
ozak
post Mar 14 2024, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 14 2024, 10:18 AM)
Kind of risky to put everything into one type of investment. Even riskier to put everything into one counter, kan?
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Maybank is already very reliable. Div % I get from pass 20yrs and estimate the future.

Of course you can mix with epf and m2u with ratio.

And if you are smarter, high yield and hold some share will even better.


ozak
post Mar 14 2024, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Mar 14 2024, 10:22 AM)
From EPF statistic, most will never get 900k even if they work till recommended retirement age.

It's not about work harder, bottom level kuli worked hard, just not getting paid as much as equivalent kuli in more advanced country. That's just the economy reality of this country.

Most low level white collar also not getting high pay, and with the advancement of AI, many white collar job will soon be displaced.
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If you want to think like B40, than just get your butt out and work.

Think smarter if you want to achieve.

EPF statistic is 1 whole lumsum. I don't believe what they write.
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post Mar 14 2024, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Mar 14 2024, 10:39 AM)
u don't hold any foreign investment to hedge against MYR devaluation? All those syok sendiri EPF 5% dividend actually doesn't mean much when currency devaluation and effective inflation alone already wipe out the investment "growth" over time.
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This is the foreign investment.

"And if you are smarter, high yield and hold some share will even better."



I thought you believe in EPF?

This post has been edited by ozak: Mar 14 2024, 10:42 AM
ozak
post Mar 14 2024, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Mar 14 2024, 10:23 AM)
Unker don't have 900k sitting around.

That's why unker plan to comtinue sell on shopee until the day I die lo  laugh.gif
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I don't believe you.

Your 3k expenses is already consider high.

You capable of doing business.



QUOTE(iGamer @ Mar 14 2024, 10:46 AM)
I believe EPF is generally a decent forced retirement saving mechanism. But regrettably it has been hijacked by politicians hence EPF cannot give higher return than its potential.
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EPF here is not low. Average and even better then many country.

You dissapoint because EPF revenue high but payout low.

Take out some and invest. Don't waste the time.
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post Mar 14 2024, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(cakoilembutgebu @ Mar 14 2024, 11:01 AM)
Ever wonder why our government don't do shit about current obesity and obsession with potong kaki beverage and artery clogging food consumed by Malaysians? Because government secretly wants B40's to die early and not be a burden to KKM
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Can you and the gov take away the Nasi Lemak?
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post Mar 14 2024, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Boldnut @ Mar 14 2024, 11:29 AM)
IMO, they should cut off subsidized public health care for age 60+

Useless old people who didnt buy insurance shouldnt leach young people's tax money.

This is what facing in Japan now, too many old people leaching young working group.
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They pay tax also. Longer and more than the young.
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post Mar 14 2024, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(johnny82 @ Mar 14 2024, 09:56 AM)
lol no way u can retire with 600k nowadays
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QUOTE(holypredator @ Mar 14 2024, 01:25 PM)
600k gives you RM2.5k per month for 20 years...

This some more exclude any interest that you will gain over the 20 years....
RM2.5k per month cannot survive for a single person???
You don't have house or car to pay already at that age....
Makan even with inflation.... at most also only RM30 per day.... considering lunch and dinner RM15 each some more....which is quite an upgrade from eating economy rice.... breakfast eat bread cukup la...
The rest of the money you can save up for hobbies and travelling...
Seriously... Ketards have a distorted view on life... thinking that after retirement... morning must eat at aircond kopitiam... lunch eat din tai fung... dinner eat hai di lao....
Earning power somemore ciput pula...
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600k with 5.5% div, can get you RM4000 per month for 20yrs.

You can do this entirely in EPF.
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post Mar 14 2024, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(sunami @ Mar 14 2024, 05:09 PM)
how do you get 48k a year for 5.5% of 600k?
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Minus from the principal for the balance.

 

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