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k!nex
post Mar 6 2024, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(kenzotaj @ Mar 6 2024, 04:49 PM)
Hi.  planning for Medicine ..
I heard lecture mainly online.   with less face to face physical class nowadays
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Which monash uni u heading to ? The one in malaysia or australia.
If malaysia one , then dont buy a macbook and ipad pro. Buy a proper windows laptop. You will need to install some software for your course, better get windows to be safe.
The AI might be gimmick or might not but rumours being Windows 12 requirement need an NPU which is an AI component of the CPU

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post Mar 6 2024, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(kenzotaj @ Mar 6 2024, 05:22 PM)
Malaysia Monash. I see.  Thks alot. !  Noted mainly need window software.
I seen Zenbook might be a better.. Very Lightweight..
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If u're heading to malaysia monash. Some advice if you're buying a laptop for use in that campus if you want less headache with compatibility with their infra.

1. Get a laptop with Intel Wireless adaptor. Many older Macbooks and Microsoft Surface often get weird problems logging in to their WiFi captive portal, authentication issues. So better buy Intel rigs rather than AMD because AMD ones usually pair with with Mediatek WiFi adaptors. Avoid Realtek WiFi cards at all cost. Monash staff laptops mostly run on Intel WiFi adaptors.

2. Test the laptop with Google Spreadsheets and Excel, see whether can see the greyish box that separate each cell. Cheaper laptops have so poor screen that you can hardly see the cell divider. Yes , monash heavily depends on google apps. Dont buy something with a display that has less than 300 nits of brightness , you cannot see anything outdoor during the day.

3. The classrooms have HDMI and Display port input to allow students to do presentations . But wireless presentation are in very limited venue only. Thts y dont buy Apple , if not you have buy countless of adaptors. They always go missing somehow, ppl forget to take back, or dropped it somewhere.

4. 32GB of RAM is prefered since your medical course is 6 years. That is on the safe side of things to ensure you dont need to ditch the laptop because not enough memory before you graduate.

5. Depends on you , but i dont see Zenbook is a smart for u. As i know , Asus dont have onsite support service in Malaysia. You have to send it to service center yourself. For KL , i know its in lowyat. But for you , first year medical course will be in Sunway , after that , off to Johor you go... So... I much prefer Lenovo but make sure you subscribe to at least 3 years onsite support warranty.
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post Mar 6 2024, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Mar 6 2024, 06:07 PM)
No software lah. His son study medicine.
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IBM SPSS statistics is 1 that i know must use for medicine in Monash.
The rest im not sure.

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post Mar 6 2024, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Mar 6 2024, 06:09 PM)
Exactly. Here ktards getting spread more and more rumors, tak boleh tahan. Now all moving to app based, SaaS and MacOS is the best for now. But they die die want promote windows. Pengsan.
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What rumours. Malaysia Apple never offer next business day onsite service like other brands. They do have such thing in Australia. Even Apple Care is different in Malaysia. In Australia , there is Apple Care + that includes accidental damage , here tarak.
Mac rosak have to send in service center yourself. Then 1 week tarak machine pakai
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post Mar 6 2024, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Mar 6 2024, 06:18 PM)
uncle so old also can learn and change, but you cannot?

Mac rosak? just buy a new one lah, then just log-in AppleID - problems solved.

Apa next day service? Uncle MBAM1 use so long also no need repair.
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U 1 ppl use no need repair or claim warranty only. Doesnt mean it applies to every Macbook user. It is a machine , it will break down eventually. If everyone is like you , then wats the point of warranty ? And why does Apple needs to sell Apple Care in the first place ?

Uncle .. so old already then saupei laa. Dont act pandai. Compatibility is 1 thing that Apple is lacking. That is a fact , and these days BootCamp is no more , so even if you want to run Windows apps also cannot. Need to buy 3rd party app, even then, also compatibility issue because Apple SOC lacks AVX instruction set.
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post Mar 6 2024, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Mar 6 2024, 06:15 PM)
SPSS is no longer relevant.

even if yes, i don't think he will need to use it, as they don't need to do experiments and wet lab.

If software for AI/ML/Data analysis/Precision Medicine - most likely only python.

i think his son will mainly on theory studies about the disease and biology if medicine.
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Uncle u saupei and dont act pandai laa...shameful u know.
U dare or not take my challenge ?? I say their Med school needs SPSS. .
You not even in this field but want act pandai and promote your Apple fanboi mentality.

I worked in education sector for almost 9 years in IT department.
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post Mar 6 2024, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Mar 6 2024, 06:37 PM)
even they really need, just go run the one/two way ANOVA from library PC lah. what so difficult?

p/s: SPSS is the most useless software, and medicine didn't do wet lab, i don't think they will need SPSS at the end of the day.
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Then it defeats the purpose of a buying a laptop . Monash Malaysia promotes BYOD. Many years ago , students can borrow laptops from library , now no more. Even before MCO, there are plans to remove all PC from library, leaving tables for BYOD .

You dont act pandai laa.. i know what they use in that campus , you dont. Let me give u some hints first.
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post Mar 6 2024, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Mar 6 2024, 06:55 PM)
Also, SPSS is a very small part of the analysis of the samples/in experiments. nothing else. for exam, probably they will need to use paper, to solve with mindmap and theory steps. no computer needed.
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Uncle... You need to update yourself . Since 2019 , Malaysia campus started moving to paperless exam , e-exam. All run using computers. Even in year 2020 MCO lockdown times , students were doing exams at home . Have to on webcam , there were invigilators from Australia exam team that supervised the students remotely. If they see students looking around or doing something fishy, they're screwed , accuse of cheating.
Practical exams for MBBS of course use practical means.
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post Mar 6 2024, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Mar 6 2024, 07:19 PM)
so, in what situation the medicine student need to use SPSS?
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Of course for class and coursework. That is BYOD for u.
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post Mar 6 2024, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Mar 6 2024, 07:15 PM)
that is so different:

#1 Apple 16-Neural engine is SOC and on the chip/in the device itself only; nothing is upload to server for the ML.

#2 Microsoft/Windows AI is mainly utilized the server pc power, they don't do the ML/AI processor locally in the devices, but in the server/supercomputer that host the server.
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Thats bullshit. The reason why client side computing put NPU or AI is because they want processing side in the client , for security and data privacy reasons.
You dont need your rig to have AI capability to run ChatGPT. That is because AI processing on server side.

However video editing relying on AI on the NPU is on client side and do locally on the client, not relying on what supercomputer.

Both Apple and x86 AI have the same concept.

There is an Intel demo here.



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