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TSkenzotaj
post Mar 6 2024, 04:35 PM, updated 2y ago

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Hi guys..

Any idea about having an AI processor ? Intel Core Ultra . Is it a gimmick ? does it really have any real function.
I was thinking getting a new laptop for my kid entering PreUni and then Monash University

In my time only paper and pen.

Wondering for these combinations, which is better set up
Zenbook 14inch laptop (mainly for light weight) and Samsung tab 8 or 9 series ? Need go pro version kah
Zenbook 14 inch and Ipad pro or Ipad - will it encounter transferring data prob and how to overcome it ?

Thks a lot
alexander3133
post Mar 6 2024, 04:41 PM

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At least it has AI chip inside, unlike some phones...
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post Mar 6 2024, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(kenzotaj @ Mar 6 2024, 04:35 PM)
Hi guys..

Any idea about having an AI processor ? Intel Core Ultra . Is it a gimmick ? does it really have any real function.
I was thinking getting a new laptop for my kid entering PreUni and then Monash University

In my time only paper and pen.

Wondering for these combinations, which is better set up
Zenbook 14inch laptop (mainly for light weight) and Samsung tab 8 or 9 series ? Need go pro version kah
Zenbook 14 inch and Ipad pro or Ipad - will it encounter transferring data prob and how to overcome it ?

Thks a lot
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TS, may I know for what course your kid is going to study?
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post Mar 6 2024, 04:47 PM

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First gen is always for water fish pioneer.
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post Mar 6 2024, 04:49 PM

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Ryzen 7000 also AI processor
TSkenzotaj
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QUOTE(GOPI56 @ Mar 6 2024, 04:45 PM)
TS, may I know for what course your kid is going to study?
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Hi. planning for Medicine ..
I heard lecture mainly online. with less face to face physical class nowadays
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post Mar 6 2024, 04:49 PM

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just get macbook m1 cheap la
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QUOTE(kenzotaj @ Mar 6 2024, 04:35 PM)
Hi guys..

Any idea about having an AI processor ? Intel Core Ultra . Is it a gimmick ? does it really have any real function.
I was thinking getting a new laptop for my kid entering PreUni and then Monash University

In my time only paper and pen.

Wondering for these combinations, which is better set up
Zenbook 14inch laptop (mainly for light weight) and Samsung tab 8 or 9 series ? Need go pro version kah
Zenbook 14 inch and Ipad pro or Ipad - will it encounter transferring data prob and how to overcome it ?

Thks a lot
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macbook
GOPI56
post Mar 6 2024, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(kenzotaj @ Mar 6 2024, 04:49 PM)
Hi.  planning for Medicine ..
I heard lecture mainly online.  with less face to face physical class nowadays
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Oh ok.

Recommended specs for laptop:
A. Intel or AMD processors. AMD processors cheap a bit.
B. Minimum 16 GB RAM
C. Storage: Get laptops models that using SSD or NVME SSD.
D. With Nvidia or AMD Graphics cards.
TruboXL
post Mar 6 2024, 04:56 PM

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Please do not buy dual core laptops la

Preferably laptops many types of port, or at least buy HDMI to VGA adapters for presentations
TSkenzotaj
post Mar 6 2024, 04:58 PM

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havent visited any college /university for pass 20years. No one use pen & paper anymore right ? Student take notes either using laptop or ipad / samsung tab ?
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post Mar 6 2024, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(TruboXL @ Mar 6 2024, 04:56 PM)
Please do not buy dual core laptops la

Preferably laptops many types of port, or at least buy HDMI to VGA adapters for presentations
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still possible to buy dual core laptop?
TSkenzotaj
post Mar 6 2024, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(TruboXL @ Mar 6 2024, 04:56 PM)
Please do not buy dual core laptops la

Preferably laptops many types of port, or at least buy HDMI to VGA adapters for presentations
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Ok noted HDMI to VGA port ..
Can ipad pro or samsung tab connect to projectors? , really noob me..
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post Mar 6 2024, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(kenzotaj @ Mar 6 2024, 04:59 PM)
Ok noted HDMI to VGA port ..
Can ipad pro or samsung tab connect to projectors? ,  really noob me..
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samsung tab can connect to projector using usbC to HDMI cable/dongle.
for student, i still suggest proper laptop rather than tablet.
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post Mar 6 2024, 05:04 PM

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"AI" laptop is just a marketing gimmick same like the "AI" phone from samsung.
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post Mar 6 2024, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(kenzotaj @ Mar 6 2024, 04:49 PM)
Hi.  planning for Medicine ..
I heard lecture mainly online.   with less face to face physical class nowadays
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Which monash uni u heading to ? The one in malaysia or australia.
If malaysia one , then dont buy a macbook and ipad pro. Buy a proper windows laptop. You will need to install some software for your course, better get windows to be safe.
The AI might be gimmick or might not but rumours being Windows 12 requirement need an NPU which is an AI component of the CPU

This post has been edited by k!nex: Mar 6 2024, 05:14 PM
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post Mar 6 2024, 05:15 PM

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From: Tim Apple
macbook air m3, quote from apple

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World’s Best Consumer Laptop for AI
With the transition to Apple silicon, every Mac is a great platform for AI. M3 includes a faster and more efficient 16-core Neural Engine, along with accelerators in the CPU and GPU to boost on-device machine learning, making MacBook Air the world’s best consumer laptop for AI. Leveraging this incredible AI performance, macOS delivers intelligent features that enhance productivity and creativity, so users can enable powerful camera features, real-time speech to text, translation, text predictions, visual understanding, accessibility features, and much more.

With a broad ecosystem of apps that deliver advanced AI features, users can do everything from checking their homework with AI Math Assistance in Goodnotes 6, to automatically enhancing photos in Pixelmator Pro, to removing background noise from a video using CapCut. Combined with the unified memory architecture of Apple silicon, MacBook Air can also run optimised AI models, including large language models (LLMs) and diffusion models for image generation locally with great performance. In addition to on-device performance, MacBook Air supports cloud-based solutions, enabling users to run powerful productivity and creative apps that tap into the power of AI, such as Microsoft Copilot for Microsoft 365, Canva, and Adobe Firefly.

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post Mar 6 2024, 05:19 PM

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Buy a laptop based on what your kid requires rather than falling for the branding. The AI NPU in Intel is generally used for things such as facial recognition, background blurring, noise cancellation. While apple's neural engine does the same and is accessible to users who does data science ML work. As you indicate medicine is the preferred programme so you want a device that is stable and has long battery life rather than absolute processing power.

A decent intel/AMD laptop with 16GB and 512 of SSD storage with good after-sales support is what you need. Alternatively a macbook air with 16GB/512Gb of storage + applecare is excellent as well as its powerful, cool and very power efficient i.e. long battery life.

Allow your kid some money to subscribe to google drive, onedrive or icloud to backup his work. Laptops/tablets may breakdown and having his work on the cloud is good insurance.

For note-taking even a base ipad gen10 + apple pencil is good enough.

Presentations can generally be done remotely via Google Workspace/O365. But if a dongle is required can get it cheaply from shopee ie. USB C to HDMI dongle. VGA connection is getting very rare in unis, mostly HDMI.

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TSkenzotaj
post Mar 6 2024, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Mar 6 2024, 05:11 PM)
Which monash uni u heading to ? The one in malaysia or australia.
If malaysia one , then dont buy a macbook and ipad pro. Buy a proper windows laptop.  You will need to install some software for your course, better get windows to be safe.
The AI might be gimmick or might not but rumours being Windows 12 requirement need an NPU which is an AI component of the CPU
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Malaysia Monash. I see. Thks alot. ! Noted mainly need window software.
I seen Zenbook might be a better.. Very Lightweight..
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post Mar 6 2024, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(accordvtec @ Mar 6 2024, 04:59 PM)
still possible to buy dual core laptop?
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yes lenovo ideapad with Celeron N4500 ranting.gif they should be thrown to dustbin

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