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TSandrekua2
post Mar 5 2024, 11:23 AM, updated 2y ago

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Haven't bought any pc or laptop for the past 10 years.

I'm looking for one to use and also let my son game.

Found Acer Predator Helios 54A6 below 4k. Any similarly priced or spec'ed laptop?

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post Mar 5 2024, 11:39 AM

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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5441621

if you dont mind 2nd hand
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post Mar 5 2024, 11:39 AM

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After browsing for some more, found this...

I did research a bit on mobile RTX4050 vs 3060. It seems like they are close on raw power but 4050 can use DLSS + FG to power ahead. Which is better in your opinion?

Acer has 13th gen cpu vs gigabyte 12th gen cpu. Gigabyte also able to configure 16gb ram for just RM100 more.

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post Mar 5 2024, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Mar 5 2024, 11:39 AM)
I don't mind 2nd hand but buying new give tax relief.
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post Mar 5 2024, 04:05 PM

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another MSI Cyborg 15A12VE. i5 12450H, 16GB ram, RTX 4050. Only downside for gamers is the Total wattage is limited to 120W. Instead of most gaming laptop can go up to 180/200W.

https://my-store.msi.com/collections/laptop...rg-15-a12ve-682
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post Mar 5 2024, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(iguana_dude_619 @ Mar 5 2024, 04:05 PM)
another MSI Cyborg 15A12VE. i5 12450H, 16GB ram, RTX 4050. Only downside for gamers is the Total wattage is limited to 120W. Instead of most gaming laptop can go up to 180/200W.

https://my-store.msi.com/collections/laptop...rg-15-a12ve-682
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Thanks... will put it into consideration.
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post Mar 5 2024, 07:33 PM

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Personally I prefer the acer over the gigabyte for the following reasons

HX series intel is more powerful than H
DDR5 ram (but 8GB is not enough, got to upgrade to 16GB)
Liquid Metal Cooling
Thunderbolt 4 for future expansion
bigger battery
and just generally more well known brand

Gigabyte G series is just rebranded Clevo as far as I know, so you could probably find the same machine under other brands
only Aorus and Aero are in house

as for pros of the gigabyte
4060
more light weight

but the 150w brick is concerning as it may mean it's running those components at reduced power
and according to notebookcheck it seems like the psu may even get overloaded...

personally I'll go with the acer + another 8gb ram to make it 16gb
they do have a 4060 model as well but well over budget

also for reference, it seems that acer is running the 4050 at 140w while the 4060 in the gigabyte is being run at 75w
that could lead to a significant performance difference

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post Mar 5 2024, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(PRSXFENG @ Mar 5 2024, 07:33 PM)
Personally I prefer the acer over the gigabyte for the following reasons

HX series intel is more powerful than H
DDR5 ram (but 8GB is not enough, got to upgrade to 16GB)
Liquid Metal Cooling
Thunderbolt 4 for future expansion
bigger battery
and just generally more well known brand

Gigabyte G series is just rebranded Clevo as far as I know, so you could probably find the same machine under other brands
only Aorus and Aero are in house

as for pros of the gigabyte
4060
more light weight

but the 150w brick is concerning as it may mean it's running those components at reduced power
and according to notebookcheck it seems like the psu may even get overloaded...

personally I'll go with the acer + another 8gb ram to make it 16gb
they do have a 4060 model as well but well over budget

also for reference, it seems that acer is running the 4050 at 140w while the 4060 in the gigabyte is being run at 75w
that could lead to a significant performance difference
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How did you found these info? Yeah, personally I used to have Acer laptop and generally quite satisfied with their after sales services.

I read a lot about the power draw struggle that many spoke about regarding 40 series. I need to research more about this before finalizing which model to buy.

Acer didn't mention the power adapter rating like Gigabyte. Since you mention 4060 is being run at 75w, I would assume the 12th gen would be drawing 75w max.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Mar 5 2024, 11:33 PM)
How did you found these info? Yeah, personally I used to have Acer laptop and generally quite satisfied with their after sales services.

I read a lot about the power draw struggle that many spoke about regarding 40 series. I need to research more about this before finalizing which model to buy.

Acer didn't mention the power adapter rating like Gigabyte. Since you mention 4060 is being run at 75w, I would assume the 12th gen would be drawing 75w max.
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Review from notebookcheck

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Predator-Heli...a.765436.0.html
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Gigabyte-G5-K...s.761048.0.html

seems like the i5+4050 acer gets a 230w brick

which again contributes to the weight


seems like g5 kf i5 can pull 60w at max
probably for cooling reasons + spare power for other devices like screen, ssd, usb devices
but realistically it will throttle down due to thermals
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post Mar 6 2024, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(PRSXFENG @ Mar 5 2024, 11:51 PM)
Review from notebookcheck

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Predator-Heli...a.765436.0.html
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Gigabyte-G5-K...s.761048.0.html

seems like the i5+4050 acer gets a 230w brick

which again contributes to the weight
seems like g5 kf i5 can pull 60w at max
probably for cooling reasons + spare power for other devices like screen, ssd, usb devices
but realistically it will throttle down due to thermals
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Thanks for sharing your insights.

Will read them up soon and hopefully they will be on sale again during raya or later down the year.

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post Mar 25 2024, 12:30 AM

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Made the purchase on lazada today for the Acer for 3,285.30... will be huge upgrade from desktop i5 3470 + r7 260. Hopefully can last 3-4 years.

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