Bumi ni milik siape?

They have erased him from textbook along with Hang Tuah who was found to be Chinese etc. Hahaha

Can someone draw kl today if there wasn’t British or YAL’s developments ?

Maybe KL remains as a backwater crocodile infested foresty swamp like some African kampongs today? Who knows

50 years later malaysia history will rewrite, najib is penyelamat malaysia tapi difitnah oleh DAP sebagai pencuri

aiyah
after CNY holiday over got many bait tered
which /ktard got become gila recently ah?

Lee Ah Loy
Lee Guan Eng

UPM PhD : saya suka macam Mana tulis sejarah...suka hati saya lah

The level they go to change history n reality

yap ah long

Source mana lol
Last time claim sutan puasa
Then today claim abdullah hukum
Esok claim siapa lagi
Lol

This post has been edited by smallydupe: Feb 18 2024, 07:14 PM

How is this thread religious or racial? It’s about Sejarah. Who is the idiot who report this thread?

The northern states had to pay bunga emas as ufti to siam

And they wrote as tanda persahabatan in sejarah book

Tak nampak pun my friends force me to pay bunga emas

And their kesultanan melaka is also a vassal state to Tiong Kok because of ancaman siam. And kononnya melayu lingua franca dunia hahahhaha

See how this puak want to spin this hahahha

No need 50 yrs, it is already happening!
Berbillions trillions can buy supporters!
Cash.is.king.jpg
#ApaMaluBossKu?

https://www.bharian.com.my/berita/nasional/...an-kuala-lumpur

"Kuala Lumpur yang asalnya kawasan perlombongan, kemudian berkembang menjadi kota perdagangan mempunyai sejarah panjang mengenai siapa sebenarnya yang membukanya, sama ada Yap Ah Loy, Sutan Puasa atau Raja Abdullah.

"Terserah kepada pakar sejarah untuk menentukannya," katanya.

So twisted! So much have changed since our time in schools

KL history lovers should watch this talk by UM history professor. subtitles are available

They all mmg insignificant in the world history

In this SEA, majapahit,srivijaya, ayyuthaya, khmer all have longer history and meaningful impact
Outside this region there are bharat from the west and tiongkok from the east

That is why want to change here and there
Masuk bakul angkat sendiri je
Keçian

Ask sanusi to develop langkawi lo
> 90% malay muslim population for their brain, skill and human resource
No need kapitan cina or any cina contractor
Let all 100% Malay bumi company to develop the land

Strategic location at the entrance of malacca straits
No typhoon, no earthquake

Ada international airport, ada international sea port

Should be easy to developed to be on par with penang in phase 1

Then he can claim lo sanusi the melayu founder of modern and advanced langkawi

everyone knows very well yap ah loy helped to develop and modernize kuala lumpur. not much information is found about abdullah hukum regarding the development of kuala lumpur.

the earliest batch of chinamen in kuala lumpur were the hokkien lang. after that, hokkien leaders lost their influence and kwong fu yan became the majority immigrants and gave birth to some of the cantonese speaking KL dwellers today.

edit: correction. not hokkien lang but hakka ngin

This post has been edited by kcal: Feb 18 2024, 07:50 PM

no need lah

can see today also

how is pangbangunan kelantan terengganu
less then 5% cina there

This post has been edited by damonlbs: Feb 18 2024, 07:41 PM

how much salary for pembantu british, got pension ?

Bila org malas kerja spin sejarah. Kerja senang spin saja

yap ah loy is hakka, and most kl chinese ppl actually hakka ppl

stand corrected. ur right. its hakka ngin.

Just allow only 100% bumi companies to do the development
See project tergendala how long
See if can obtain cf and vp or not
See if ppl crying have to pay interest to the bank because project stopped
Hahahha

sound exactly like komunis revisionism

Technically the founder is really not Yap Ah Loy as KL exist before he came and develop it from a small kampung into a city. Most of the Kapitan Cina was instrumental to making KL into a city.

They are the pengasas but they asaskan small area in kl only...abdullah hukum iinm open kg kerinchi

Yap the third Kapitan China of Kuala Lumpur, and he played an important role in developing the kl. this is the fact.

since he is the third Kapitan China of Kuala Lumpur, conlanfirm he is not the founder of Kuala Lumpur.

so who is the actual founder of Kuala Lumpur, let the historian and archaeologist tell us.

Yap Ah Loy was the Kapitan that controlled the Chinese immigrants, of which the whole immigrant community contributed to the development of KL.

So hard to acknowledge?

We can acknowledge Abdulah Hukum as the founder but cannot acknowledge YAL?

So once found is cina.. terus hilang from textbook.

The history I learned is a lie. Kek

this just like nons build up the company until become a big success, then gomen come swoop in demand 51% shares of that company

topkek lulz

These sohais post again, KL might not be the best city in SEA but others still praising it. Who ever build or found it, let it be in the history textbook. Ok if YAL is triad leader then how? Going to his grave then take him to court and prosecute him? Then go find Abdullah Hukum to testify against him?

Penting ke siapa pengasas?

Macam debat tanah Israel Palestin lagi...

Holy shit they really re-writing history like One Piece's World Government. Anyway, not important to us but it's up to you if you wanna step on your nenek moyang face and wipe history

Funny thing is, I was the top Sejarah student in Form 3 - Form 5 last time. 89%, 90%, 98%. Was proud then, and now, when I know the syllabus is subject to change from uneducated fools, I guess I am the stupid one

This post has been edited by NoComment222: Feb 19 2024, 03:33 AM

History = fake story. People study history for the sake of getting another A in SPM. After SPM, history has no value.

Founder and developer difference kot…
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Yap-Ah-Loy
So u saying it was the other race that control and manage all those vice… then so be it … hahaha… done claim …

There’s no problem in acknowledging Abdullah Hukum or Raja Puasa as founder of KL but what is insulting was reducing YAL’s role to merely pembantu British. He was instrumental in developing KL into a city and later became the capital of our country. Yes, he was a triad boss but back then it’s virtually lawless world and you have to be powerful enough if you want to control. If we take modern mindset to judge historical figures, then most historical figures will be seen as evil. Heck, even George Washington was a slave owner.

Puak dengki os like that
Cannot see u be greater than them, will try to pull u down to their level

We should stop reading sejarah since it can easily pusing.

I miss cerita Hang Tuah.

Later Malaysia history will write "Tanah Melayu tidak pernah dijajah"

I thought Yap is known as the founder of modern Kuala Lumpur ?

Read this before in some fringe socmed people.... really

alah, jangan la triggered.

tak kisah pun siapa founder.

tapi jangan perlekehkan jasa tokoh yang pernah membantu membangunkan KL.

Abdullah Hukum or Raja Puasa = pengasas which is small kampung or pekan
YAL = bapa pemodenan.

kolos.

Err already made that claim a decade ago

https://www.mstar.com.my/lokal/semasa/2012/...ajah-sepenuhnya

It was said in Hokkien that Hang Tu Ah meant 'you eldest' and hang ji (aka jebat) meant 'you second'.

Story was similar to romance of 3 kingdoms when it comes to over exaggeration.

reli? textbook no moar hang tuah?

If you read Hikayat Hang Tuah, it is as if Hang Tuah is some sort of immortal as he was around during the early days of Kesultanan Melaka until Melaka fell to Portuguese 😝

betul... tapi mungkin juga ada org lg sblm Abdullah Hukum atau Raja Puasa yg mengasaskan kampung tu... mungkin sampai ke tahun dinosaur cuma xda rekod..

yg penting knp dr dulu Yap Ah Loy tu bapa pemodenan dlm buku byk byk tahun tiba-tiba turun pangkat?

tiada debat siapa pengasas... memang yap ah loy ni develop kl from swamps...

x kan say madey founded mehsia when he modernise msia. somewhat

Malaysia pay rental to Sulu so what you say then

Claim jgn tak claim

Sulu > malaysia?

I think he is still mentioned but not like in the old sejarah books where he was glorified. The problem with Hang Tuah is there were no real evidence he existed. He is only mentioned in Hikayat Hang Tuah and Sejarah Melayu. Both books are more fiction books similar to books like Romance of Three Kingdoms where the heroes glorified based on some historical events but not real history.

Sepupu ?

They also claim Satun was owned by Kesultanan Kedah.

In that case, Perlis should be absorbed into Kedah kan?

The kris, Taming Sari... grants godlike skills, strength, speed and stamina to the wielder; hence was the reason of Hang Tuah's godhood.

Such irony for one to just handover the weapon back and surrender and be doomed to death when one can just take on the whole army, which Hang Jebat stole and revolt for revenge, just to be tricked (long story during confrontation battle) to handover the weapon back to Hang Tuah and be killed like a street dog.

Strange on why we Chinese would want to claim somebody with borrowed powers, deceitful and worst of all killing your own 'brother' that stood up for you as their role model.

Maybe because maruah tercabar?

Sebab kuasa Cina tukar kerajaan , tukar sejarah tenangkan Melayu supaya Melayu boleh bangkit tak rasa rendah diri

The story about Hang Jebat also not the same as Sejarah Melayu. In Sejarah Melayu, the one who rebelled against sultan was Hang Kasturi and not Hang Jebat.

Chinese not really want to claim but just sort of making jest about the whole myth of Hang Tuah as his name really sounds a bit Chinese.

This post has been edited by 30624770: Feb 19 2024, 11:31 AM

Hang Jebat , Hang Lekiu all also no more ?
Hang Je-bat 二伯
Hang Le-kiu 二舅

This post has been edited by bereev: Feb 19 2024, 11:34 AM

What year? My time 20 years ago, the myth and history tallies about Hang Jebat being the traitor.

Nevertheless, there were many versions of the myth but all concludes only one thing... that Hang Tuah never betray the king despite being framed and be sentenced to death, and there is a verse that exclaims one should submit to every decision a king as to make.

No computer or USB in the past. Its all based on belief only. But 1 thing for sure 2feidei people developed KL so advanced.

upmphd: itu spegetti itali curicopy dari maggi mee malaysia.

upmphd: itu M1A1 tank curi dari proton saga. tengok nama pun tau. M1A1 = Malaysia Satu copy A1

hang tuah buka KL?
atau King Lancelot yg buka KL?

The whole myth of Hang Tuah was based on 2 books. Hikayat Hang Tuah is solely about him and his adventures. Its most famous story is the Hang Jebat amok in palace story. The same story is also mentioned in Sejarah Melayu but instead of Hang Jebat, it was Hang Kasturi who amok. Sejarah Melayu chronicles the whole story of rise and fall of Kesultanan Melaka. It’s the same myth where they say Parameswara was a descendant of Iskandar Zulkarnain which today some Malay historians say is not Alexander the Great because of his bisexuality. I had to read both books last time in school when I took Kesusasteraan Melayu as a subject.

This post has been edited by 30624770: Feb 19 2024, 11:49 AM

Jon Snow buka KL lah!

Sejarah MY takbley pakai.. spin auta spin jaga maruah

do you see a Stesen LRT Yup Ah Loi?
is there a Stesen LRT Abdullah hukum?

hati tissue cannot take Chinese that develop malaysia. also they try to delete those chinese contributor and replace with unless oranges to make shoick sendiri.

yes, tolong return cheras to the refugis

batu caves developed by who? by ikan bakar sekinchan la

Got Jalan Yap Ah Loy but got Jalan Abdullah Hukum?

the problem is hati tissue erase chinese contribution and label them as kongsi gelap. lol that the joke. no need ask people rawang develop by who, shah alam develop by who or even klang develop by who? no shit given. the things is why fk retard delete the history from sejarah book? hati tissue?

Haji Abdullah Hukum ini adalah dari suku kaum kerinci dan berasal dari sungai abu di negeri Kerinci, Sumatera, Indonesia.

KL developed by indon

#doneclaim

yap ah loy is sepupu chin peng

They only know how to worship their past because they dont have current achievement. Let them do what they want while we continue to strive for better future.

Where are the images taken from?

when british arrived, the area was already populated by malays. kampung baru and kampung attap 2 of oldest still exist. the now known as dang wangi was a malay population area. yap ah loy may be the one declared the area as kl. but he was not the founder.

Lmao trying to change history. Sejarah book can throw away burn full of lies and propaganda only hahah

tanah melayu too panas bro... snow also melt... haha

Depa cakap tanah melayu dan negeri negeri melayu tak pernah dijajah british
British letak resident kat sini sebagai penasihat je

Lepas tu kenapa tunku abdul rahman kena pergi london minta kemerdekaan ?

Binggung betul la entah apa dalam fikiran puak ni

Did anyone claim kota baharu already or not?

Nobody claimed Yap as the founder but he was the one who turned KL from a kampung into a town. He developed KL and without his contribution and the subsequent kapitan cina like Yap Kwan Seng and Yap Ah Shak, KL would not be a our capital today. So, Yap Ah Loy's role should be recognised and properly recorded in our sejarah books instead of belittling his contribution as merely pembantu British. You go around KL and there is not even a memorial for Yap Ah Loy's except for a road named after him.

Founder of first squatter has no value in archeology.

Hang Tuah means 'Our eldest brother' and Hang Jebat is 'Our second brother' when pronounced in hokkien

Romance of the 3 kingdoms, Journey to the West and Suikoden was written around the time of Hang Tuah

In Romance of the 3 kingdoms, liubei is the big bro, guanyu the second bro and zhangfei the third bro

In Journey to the West, the monkey is the big bro, the pig the second bro and the other guy the third bro

In Suikoden have like 108 bros and sis

Although the stories were exaggerated, most of the characters do exist historically

Lu cina menumpang sini je
Jangan minta extra

Betul, itu fakta. Maksud saya tak perlu buang masa pertikaikan fakta masa silam.

Kenapa tiada yang debatkan masalah2 KL masa kini...

Kejurangan miskin kaya, monopoli...

Sedih...sedih...

Kerja boleh rampas, buat aper nak usaha..

Topkek mentaliti since the 60s