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cybpsych
post Feb 2 2024, 08:28 PM

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if tng's acquiring bank gives a good MDR deal of 0.8-0.9%, they still can cover a little bit of 0.1%
cybpsych
post Feb 2 2024, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(6942nole @ Feb 2 2024, 08:52 PM)
just ban the cash out thing instead of charging people.
stupid strategy.
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cannot

cashout must be allowed.

just up to service providers to manage the rules, risks, etc

in short, bnm lazy to setup a standardized guidelines and applied equally to all ewallets.
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post Feb 2 2024, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(judie999 @ Feb 2 2024, 09:09 PM)
I use this trick ...

Whenever i want scan, i dont reload tng, you scan then it auto reload from cc.

This doesnt charge 1%
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...yet
cybpsych
post Feb 2 2024, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Feb 2 2024, 09:06 PM)
Then also reload the TnG NFC card using credit card also charge 1% …
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technically, you can't

tng ewallet is the intermediate. still kena fee first
cybpsych
post Feb 2 2024, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(adamhzm90 @ Feb 2 2024, 09:26 PM)
Wtf..bnm is okay with this?
I tot illegal to charge more if use cc
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because someone else already set the precedence (aka approved by bmm) to charge the so-called "convenience fee" for cc reload.

so, other ewallets would likely follow the trend and may have been seeking permission from bnm.

now u see the double-std of how they bend their own guidelines huh


good thing so far only capped to 1% based on market comparison. unlikely allowed to go higher.

This post has been edited by cybpsych: Feb 2 2024, 09:36 PM
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post Feb 2 2024, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(6942nole @ Feb 2 2024, 09:40 PM)
you know how much visa charge if you withdraw cash or not?
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withdraw is not the issue. tng is the one processing it.

cc reload is charged by tng's gateway and/or acquiring bank which processes your cards (cc/DC/prepaid)

DC/prepaid also got charge, just much lower and minimal impaxt.
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post Feb 2 2024, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(judie999 @ Feb 2 2024, 09:55 PM)
Bravo !

Current if > Rm1k baru kena 1%

23rd Feb = Anything kena 1%
So dont reload, and just scan let auto reload when makan or buy thing. Free of 1%

But some merchant use personal TnG(Not merchant), then it will force to reload due to can't auto
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are you sure auto reload/quick reload no fee from 23 Feb onwards?
cybpsych
post Feb 3 2024, 05:38 AM

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QUOTE(mrg220t @ Feb 3 2024, 02:23 AM)
Ehh, I calculate my monthly TnG spending around 6-7k. 1% is just 6 or 7 ringgit. Ok la rather than the hassle of carrying cash or have to login to M2U.
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lolololololol

pls show formula how to get 6-7 ringgit from 1% fee?
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post Feb 3 2024, 05:42 AM

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QUOTE(james.6831 @ Feb 2 2024, 10:31 PM)
so even if use for toll also can't auto reload with cc? eeee bangangnya... now wanna pay toll just go to the lane that accepts cc...no more rfid huhu...
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autoreload also reload la

their problem is the cost of reload, not how you reload.

QUOTE(uk9089 @ Feb 2 2024, 10:33 PM)
I use TnG for all my payments.
TNB, Maxis, Lazada, Shopee, Food, Toll etc.
Now back to cc and cash i guess.

How about reload tng from machine, will they charge 1% too?
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this is for tng ewaller only

tng card kiosk reload maintain as is lor.

QUOTE(iamloco @ Feb 3 2024, 03:13 AM)
Does this include quick payment too?
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their problem is the cost of reload, not how you reload.

QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Feb 3 2024, 04:34 AM)
How about the quick payment?

It will reload tng and it charge 1% too?
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their problem is the cost of reload, not how you reload.
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post Feb 3 2024, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Feb 3 2024, 08:21 AM)
BP also kena?
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what bp?
cybpsych
post Feb 3 2024, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(vassilius @ Feb 3 2024, 08:59 AM)
Just wanna know, auto reload for payment got affected or not?
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CC involved, YES la
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post Feb 3 2024, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Cookie101 @ Feb 3 2024, 09:34 AM)
Convenient fee is legal it seems. And wondering if merchants can do the same or not at retail shop. 1% for cc users lol

I’ve wrote to BNM previously and never gotten any reply. Even after sending 3 reminders for response but it seems no one is working or bothered about it. Our BNM is weak as fuck. Even MAS reply in a day no matter how much Singaporeans complain and keep you updated.
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surcharge for using cc and passing down to customer is prohibited. bnm has been reminding this previously.

but somehow it can be circumvented by using convenience fee for the reload service used by providers

also, by right, any fees imposed to customers must be reviewed and approved. BNM has oversight committee monitoring these.

as usual, enforcement is none and usually they take action once they receive complaints from the public.

since tng dares to issue press statement for this 1% fee, obviously they are in compliant, therefore already approved by bnm to impose this fee.

remember, 1% fee is not their revenue. it's to cover the cost they are bearing. so, in bnm point of view, tng didn't impose 1% to make money, but to pay the reload service fee. I guess this is the grey area, by passing down their operating cost back to customers.


the only way WE can do is viral it, pressure bnm, which indirectly will pressure tng back.

depends on whether bnm want to flex their power over tng or not la.

like ipay88 and cimb fiascos, bnm just fined them and ask them to provide corrective actions. no serious penalty like CEO fined or jailed, license suspended or revoked, etc.

business still goes as usual.
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post Feb 3 2024, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(JimmyChan77 @ Feb 3 2024, 10:13 AM)
Does anyone know, boost able to top up tng NFC card? Thanks
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obviously NOT!

tng card technology is a freaking mess created by tngsb themselves. no one will ever willing to spend time and $$ to solve tngsb own mess la.

also, 3rd parties can't earn $$ too.
cybpsych
post Feb 3 2024, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(vicng93 @ Feb 3 2024, 11:14 AM)
so which other ewallet allow cashout?
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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Feb 3 2024, 11:25 AM)
you should be asking which ewallet has 0% cc topup and allow cashout. bigpay allows cashout but all CC topups have 1% fee
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not sure of these

sarawakpay?
merchanttrade/enrichmoney?
kiplepay?

boost, shoeepay, grabpay..I think possible with doing multiple hops to other apps/services...
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post Feb 3 2024, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(Asgaard @ Feb 3 2024, 11:28 AM)
Tng can’t cover cost of ppl reload in tng using cc and withdraw out.

User do this get cash back
Tng need pay fee% to bank

Before tng cap at rm1,000, my friend was abusing this and get rm1k average cash back due to loophole and hong leong unlimited cash back card
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how about current foc 1k cc reload?

still abusing and making some profit?

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post Feb 5 2024, 11:26 AM

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just stop or massively reduce your usage with tng ewallet lor


 

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