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post Nov 25 2024, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Nov 25 2024, 11:55 AM)
i've always find the CX-30's rear is too busy with all the lines and they seem to go against Mazda's "less is more" philosophy, where it was perfectly implemented in the Mazda 3 so for the fun of it, i "removed" some of those lines and all of a sudden, the CX-30 suddenly become even more sleeker.

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this is the more extreme version of it where the every thing is removed.

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Interesting observation. Personally I feel the rear is fine as it is, infact I triggered some M3 HB fans once when I say I prefer the rear of the CX30 biggrin.gif

I think most people's gripe with the CX30 design is with the thick black plastic cladding. Honestly I wonder if Mazda could've done it better or they ran out of options before deciding on this approach

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post Nov 25 2024, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 25 2024, 04:14 PM)
Interesting observation. Personally I feel the rear is fine as it is, infact I triggered some M3 HB fans once when I say I prefer the rear of the CX30 biggrin.gif

I think most people's gripe with the CX30 design is with the thick black plastic cladding. Honestly I wonder if Mazda could've done it better or they ran out of options before deciding on this approach
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Both the rear of the Mazda 3 (LB) and the CX-30 has its own distinct appeal but the former is definitely the sexier one. the CX-30 had to be compromised for practicality.

Mazda definitely can do better but they need to keep production costs down therefore it is cheaper to slap huge plastic claddings rather than making bigger metal panels.

case on point, the Crown Sport:-

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Nov 25 2024, 04:30 PM)
Both the rear of the Mazda 3 (LB) and the CX-30 has its own distinct appeal but the former is definitely the sexier one. the CX-30 had to be compromised for practicality.

Mazda definitely can do better but they need to keep production costs down therefore it is cheaper to slap huge plastic claddings rather than making bigger metal panels.

case on point, the Crown Sport:-

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lmao that's a real Japanese Purosangue

I've seen pics of people painting / wrapping the cladding into glossy color. Somehow it feels even weirder to me.... its like the car received some botox

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the cladding is simply too huge.... maybe it would look slightly better with gloss black instead of following the body colour
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Is it possible to ask for out of standard maintenance item to be performed at Mazda SC at owner's cost and not voiding the warranty?. E.g. I want to change the auto fluid at 20k which is not part of the standard "free" maintenance but I don't mind paying for it but I don't want the warranty to be void.
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QUOTE(rikiraikonnen @ Nov 28 2024, 11:58 AM)
Is it possible to ask for out of standard maintenance item to be performed at Mazda SC  at owner's cost and not voiding the warranty?.  E.g. I want to change the auto fluid at 20k which is not part of the standard "free" maintenance but I don't mind paying for it but I don't want the warranty to be void.
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Bermaz already made it clear changing the transmission fluid will void warranty, and i doubt any SC would perform it while keeping the warranty since it goes against their policy (unless you found a lobang with the sc manager lah)

there's 2 recommendations -

1) You proceed to change the fluid at outside workshop @ 20k or whatever mileage, but you take the risk of voiding your warranty and incase touchwood your gearbox really have any issues before 5 years or 100k km, you are gonna incur a greater loss of replacing / fixing the gearbox

or 2) Keep the gearbox as it is within the warranty period, since its covered by warranty anything happen just claim it. Once warranty over you may proceed to change the fluid

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 28 2024, 05:07 PM)
Bermaz already made it clear changing the transmission fluid will void warranty, and i doubt any SC would perform it while keeping the warranty since it goes against their policy (unless you found a lobang with the sc manager lah)

there's 2 recommendations -

1) You proceed to change the fluid at outside workshop @ 20k or whatever mileage, but you take the risk of voiding your warranty and incase touchwood your gearbox really have any issues before 5 years or 100k km, you are gonna incur a greater loss of replacing / fixing the gearbox

or 2) Keep the gearbox as it is within the warranty period, since its covered by warranty anything happen just claim it. Once warranty over you may proceed to change the fluid
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QUOTE(rikiraikonnen @ Nov 28 2024, 11:58 AM)
Is it possible to ask for out of standard maintenance item to be performed at Mazda SC  at owner's cost and not voiding the warranty?.  E.g. I want to change the auto fluid at 20k which is not part of the standard "free" maintenance but I don't mind paying for it but I don't want the warranty to be void.
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When I bought my CX-5 recently, the salesman say he himself change the gearbox oil at 40k IN HOUSE, without voiding the warranty. Apparently nowadays they will do it upon request. But I have not reached this milage and I don't know how they will behave in 1,2,3 years time.

QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 28 2024, 05:07 PM)
Bermaz already made it clear changing the transmission fluid will void warranty, and i doubt any SC would perform it while keeping the warranty since it goes against their policy (unless you found a lobang with the sc manager lah)

there's 2 recommendations -

1) You proceed to change the fluid at outside workshop @ 20k or whatever mileage, but you take the risk of voiding your warranty and incase touchwood your gearbox really have any issues before 5 years or 100k km, you are gonna incur a greater loss of replacing / fixing the gearbox

or 2) Keep the gearbox as it is within the warranty period, since its covered by warranty anything happen just claim it. Once warranty over you may proceed to change the fluid
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You can refer what I said above, or just give a call to your SC see what they say if curious.

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Nov 29 2024, 01:55 PM)
When I bought my CX-5 recently, the salesman say he himself change the gearbox oil at 40k IN HOUSE, without voiding the warranty. Apparently nowadays they will do it upon request. But I have not reached this milage and I don't know how they will behave in 1,2,3 years time.
You can refer what I said above, or just give a call to your SC see what they say if curious.
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this is the 'lobang' i am refering to lah

but still the official word from Bermaz is change atf = void warranty

SA / SC can claim anything they want

but of course we would never know the real answer unless someone manages to claim their warranty AFTER they change ATF fluid. These gearboxes are bulletproof if you drive them smoothly most of the time. The story I heard from someone within Bermaz is most gearbox claims are due to defects / faults in the component itself rather than directly caused by the fluid

in the end its your own choice, a lot of owners also change ATF fluid outside and didn't encounter any issues. Also saw before an incident where the owner change ATF fluid and unluckily his gearbox kong and was denied warranty (cx5 owner iinm)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/mazdablowwa...822603754832437

this document was from 2018, so I am not sure if there's any changes in policy since then but if there is it should be big news for all owners

in defence of Bermaz they are just following the recommendation from the owner's manual from Mazda Japan, which doesn't factor in other conditions like weather, ambient temperature

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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Mar 6 2024, 12:43 AM)
yeah mine still OE, just gotten my car last Nov

I'm thinking to change to Michelin Primacy 4, it has 215/55 R18
I personally wouldn't change to 225 cuz the diameter is different from OE
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another option is to change rims to 8JJ or 8.5JJ and use 235/50 R18
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Feb 10 2024, 08:39 AM)
I am also considering H+P because of 360 cam & ALH. But then because of the useless sunroof, I did think off just getting H+ instead. I wish they offer sunroof as optional instead.
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I wouldn't say it's fully useless though 😉. The sunroof can make the interior more airy for the front passengers as the beltline is quite high, so it does feel a bit dark sometimes inside the cabin especially if you are tall or choose to sit lower in the car. However, the sunroof does intrude a little on backseat headroom for tall passengers.

I regret not getting the H+ simply for the BSM as this car has some blind spots that take some time getting used to.

Imo, get the H+P if it's within your budget else H+ is the minimum.
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QUOTE(layzieboy @ Dec 9 2024, 02:15 PM)
I wouldn't say it's fully useless though 😉. The sunroof can make the interior more airy for the front passengers as the beltline is quite high, so it does feel a bit dark sometimes inside the cabin especially if you are tall or choose to sit lower in the car. However, the sunroof does intrude a little on backseat headroom for tall passengers.

I regret not getting the H+ simply for the BSM as this car has some blind spots that take some time getting used to.

Imo, get the H+P if it's within your budget else H+ is the minimum.
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I ended up getting H+P. Have really been utilizing the two additional functions that I wanted the most, the ALH & 360 camera. Really helpful especially in tight areas. And the ALH, I am really amazed with it especially when driving in dark area with moderate traffic.

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 25 2024, 04:14 PM)
Interesting observation. Personally I feel the rear is fine as it is, infact I triggered some M3 HB fans once when I say I prefer the rear of the CX30 biggrin.gif

I think most people's gripe with the CX30 design is with the thick black plastic cladding. Honestly I wonder if Mazda could've done it better or they ran out of options before deciding on this approach
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I also feel that the rear looks better than Mazda 3 both hatchback & sedan.

I actually fell in love with the rear first before everything else.

The black plastic cladding doesn't bother me much. It does look ugly initially, but it grew on me over time. But then, most of the time I would be inside the car, so the most important thing is the interior finishing. The rear and the front, I only can enjoy looking at other people's car laugh.gif
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Dec 9 2024, 02:36 PM)
I ended up getting H+P. Have really been utilizing the two additional functions that I wanted the most, the ALH & 360 camera. Really helpful especially in tight areas. And the ALH, I am really amazed with it especially when driving in dark area with moderate traffic.
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The price of CX30 H+P is almost similar to CX5 2.0G High. I wonder what makes CX30 more attractive than the bigger CX5? Share share pls.
I'm current considering Toyota Corolla Cross and Mazda CX30 or CX5.
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QUOTE(SeniorCitizen @ Dec 11 2024, 06:25 AM)
The price of CX30 H+P is almost similar to CX5 2.0G High. I wonder what makes CX30 more attractive than the bigger CX5? Share share pls.
I'm current considering Toyota Corolla Cross and Mazda CX30 or CX5.
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CX5 2.0 is underpowered. Personally for me the minimum engine you need for CX5 is the 2.5

Pros of CX30 vs CX5
- latest interior and exterior design
- latest HU software and design (CX5 could've got this in the facelift but for some reasons Bermaz exclude it)
- better designed front seats
- HUD (you need to get CX5 2.5T for it)
- 2.0 engine is just nice for the size
- the 360 camera in CX30 H+ P is much clearer than the 360 cam in CX5
- CX30 H+ P gets ALH and FCTA (not available on CX5 iinm)
- handles better than CX5

Pros of CX5 vs CX30
- more practical
- more comfortable and quieter due to double glazed windows and softer suspension tuning + rear independent suspension
- cooled front seats (CX5 2.5 above)
- rear seats are more comfortable
- more engine choices

in short if you are looking for a family car the CX5 is better. if you are single, just married without kids, or have no use / seldom use for the rear seats, then CX30 can be considered

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Dec 11 2024, 11:28 AM)
CX5 2.0 is underpowered. Personally for me the minimum engine you need for CX5 is the 2.5

Pros of CX30 vs CX5
- latest interior and exterior design
- latest HU software and design (CX5 could've got this in the facelift but for some reasons Bermaz exclude it)
- better designed front seats
- HUD (you need to get CX5 2.5T for it)
- 2.0 engine is just nice for the size
- the 360 camera in CX30 H+ P is much clearer than the 360 cam in CX5
- CX30 H+ P gets ALH and FCTA (not available on CX5 iinm)
- handles better than CX5

Pros of CX5 vs CX30
- more practical
- more comfortable and quieter due to double glazed windows and softer suspension tuning + rear independent suspension
- cooled front seats (CX5 2.5 above)
- rear seats are more comfortable
- more engine choices

in short if you are looking for a family car the CX5 is better. if you are single, just married without kids, or have no use / seldom use for the rear seats, then CX30 can be considered
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Thanks for the good and informative feedback. I'm only comparing Toyota Cross, CX30 and CX5 2.0G only. I think CX5 2.5 is way above my budget.
Too bad that for CX30 only the H+P get 360 camera whereas Toyota Cross available in all variant.
Really difficult to consider for people with limit budget like me.

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QUOTE(SeniorCitizen @ Dec 11 2024, 11:56 AM)
Thanks for the good and informative feedback. I'm only comparing Toyota Cross, CX30 and CX5 2.0G only. I think CX5 2.5 is way above my budget.
Too bad that for CX30 only the H+P get 360 camera whereas Toyota Cross available in all variant.
Really difficult to consider for people with limit budget like me.
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to be fair the 360 camera in CX30 is well integrated with adaptive guidance lines and the quality is also quite good

other 360 camera in the segment especially Toyota looks like 3rd party accessory, but it gets the job done

if you need a comfortable and practical ride then just go for Cross or CX5

those who buy CX30 have other reasons

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QUOTE(SeniorCitizen @ Dec 11 2024, 06:25 AM)
The price of CX30 H+P is almost similar to CX5 2.0G High. I wonder what makes CX30 more attractive than the bigger CX5? Share share pls.
I'm current considering Toyota Corolla Cross and Mazda CX30 or CX5.
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i drive a mazda 3 liftback (smaller and lower compare cx30), wife drives a cx5 2.0 FL.

If driver sitting position is your main concern, get the cx30
if space, rear boot space is your concern, cx5 is the answer..
during family trips we will just use her cx5 as it is more comfortable..

power wise, ok la not too bad for the cx5 2.0. the engine tuning on the 3 i can feel slightly faster compare to the cx5, but the 3 is still an underpower car laugh.gif


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QUOTE(SeniorCitizen @ Dec 11 2024, 06:25 AM)
The price of CX30 H+P is almost similar to CX5 2.0G High. I wonder what makes CX30 more attractive than the bigger CX5? Share share pls.
I'm current considering Toyota Corolla Cross and Mazda CX30 or CX5.
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Technology wise, there isn’t much difference between CX30 H+P and CX5 High. Only the sophisticated ALH is missing in the CX5 which you wouldn’t notice if you have never drive a car with one. And also FTCA.

It is more towards personal preference. The armrest design was the dealbreaker for me. Being a short person, with the seat in my driving position, the armrest of CX5 became practically useless. I can’t drive long distance with useless armrest.

CX30 interior is much better than CX5.

CX30 power to weight ratio is better than CX5, yet I feel I need more power. Can’t imagine how underpower the CX5 would feel.

CX30 interior is a little big tight for average size family though. Lucky for me, I am “space efficient” so, space isn’t really a problem for me.

But boot space is really what I missed since I upgraded from Corolla Altis. CX5 would suit you if you need more boot space.

Corolla Cross looks & feel cheap. And not to mention it is underpower. The only reason I would even consider that is because of Toyota’s reliability.
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Thank you all for your valuable feedback. I wish the Toyota Corolla Cross thread is as good but it's really quiet.

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Dec 11 2024, 01:44 PM)
Technology wise, there isn’t much difference between CX30 H+P and CX5 High. Only the sophisticated ALH is missing in the CX5 which you wouldn’t notice if you have never drive a car with one. And also FTCA.

It is more towards personal preference. The armrest design was the dealbreaker for me. Being a short person, with the seat in my driving position, the armrest of CX5 became practically useless. I can’t drive long distance with useless armrest.

CX30 interior is much better than CX5.

CX30 power to weight ratio is better than CX5, yet I feel I need more power. Can’t imagine how underpower the CX5 would feel.

CX30 interior is a little big tight for average size family though. Lucky for me, I am “space efficient” so, space isn’t really a problem for me.

But boot space is really what I missed since I upgraded from Corolla Altis. CX5 would suit you if you need more boot space.

Corolla Cross looks & feel cheap. And not to mention it is underpower. The only reason I would even consider that is because of Toyota’s reliability.
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pump ron97 to feel the difference biggrin.gif

but seriously, I don't think there's any bump in power figures, but it definitely made the engine felt smoother

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