Today I got a call from this woman, claiming she work for this ABC co and she said I have a stock brokerage account with ABC co.

Which is true, I do have, just that I haven't use it for some time.

So she said she is tied to this ABC Co and they have seminar training from 8pm to 9pm to teach people how to play shares.

Deep down my heart I suspected it was a scam, but I played along.

So I joined, and attended the online seminar. It was hosted by this chinese guy who had a terrible english accent. What he said was so general knowledge about US treasury and all that, but then it was his description of technical charts, not that I am expert in it, sounded like talking cock.

But the lady who claimed to be ABC co customer service, is so friendly kept in touch in watsapp, guiding me and inform me before the seminar asked me to spin the wheel to win prizes.

then it dawned on me, the watsapp group so ful lof shoe polishers. At first it was only limited to admin to post, then moment she (admin) uplift the limit, so many shoe polishers, said it was a good seminar and they won nice prizes. I was busy eating my dinner and watching my kids while only 20% of my ears was listening to the seminar, didn't bother about spinning the wheel to win prizes.

after show polishing moment, she closed the post for admin only. And this keeps happening. Open shoe polisher praise, then close, expert guy start lecture.

Next day I checked the phone number with Semakpon, it didn't detect it as a scam number, nevertheless I am still careful.

Then again they have another seminar tonight, and they want to do another session of praises and shoe polishing claiming this HK lady from a prominent investment bank.

Then I call up ABC co helpdesk, they confirmed it was a scam call.

Well, then this is how they gain your trust slowly slowly until you start to remit money until it grows too big.

when they fatten the account enough they cut you off.

Ok, then I just tested the lady, I wastapp her n asked her where is her office?

She no answer me, hahahaha.

Wait lah, I will ask more questions, I am waiting for them to kick me out of the group. I think moment I asked these questions, they already know that I have realization they are a scammer. Its in their playbook 101 to focus on gullible investors. When they see me asking carefully crafted questions, they already realized I am on to them.

So now this is how it feels like being in a scam.
I see a lot of Red Flags. I just wonder those ex teachers, retirees, accountants, govt servants, why they always kena tricked by these scams?

This post has been edited by hoonanoo: Feb 1 2024, 06:05 PM

same...
i was added into whatsapp group about stock investment..
talking crap about dunno wat share...
then admin will unblock message...
all those konco konco post screen shot profit the of thousand of profit with the stock etc...
some are victims...in the end....they say system migration...
cant withdraw money...
kekkkk
got ppl post worry about it....then the group completely silent from there on..
lol

May I ask, have you met them (scammers) face-to-face or do they "scammers" promote their scam activity behind closed door?

Why don't you record their act and viral it in the internet?

This post has been edited by Total Eclipse: Feb 1 2024, 06:33 PM

tonight I am going to talk cock in the group. Provided they allow me to comment.

I will tell them I only have RM 600 in the bank account.

let see their response.

Again, may I ask, have you actually met these (scammers) face-to-face? You did mention it is an online seminar, was it live at that time? Why not record the entire process and send a copy to Bank Negara for further action.

So generous of you to show them real money. I personally think they should be shown the “hell” noted instead .

not shoe polisher la, those are their acc too. If you got invite to several group, all use same dialog. Funny thing when got name like chinese but use totally bm baku like script book.

Here's an intriguing thought: why not outsmart the scammers? Contemplate adjusting a bank slip to display a substantial deposit of RM500,000 and inquire about the status of your "deposit" with them. This subtle move might make them believe they've successfully lured you into their scam.

The idea behind this approach is to manipulate the scammers into thinking that their scam is working, and you are under the illusion that you've made a large deposit. Scammers often use psychological tactics and misinformation to exploit their victims, so by playing along, you may gain insights into their methods and intentions.

You can then ask them about the status of the "deposit" to see how they respond. If they claim that the system is updating or processing the transaction, they inadvertently reveal details about their modus operandi.

Nope.. I don't know any of them...was abit lazy to viral it.... Since I'm not a victim..

Edit.. Summore. So called assistance come and dm me...
So concern whether I can follow or not..
But I no give a fark..



This post has been edited by sunami: Feb 1 2024, 07:23 PM

Lembu Goreng

Truly gelakan indeed tered got removed in serious /k

yeah if u are desperate and wants to fk her , then u will get caught in the scam

Yeah.. These scammers really thinks our iq is lower than them...
Lol

a lot of people are scammed by them . so u tell they have low iq ? haha

Greed.

Can hint the scammer u want to piap her for commision?

They are dumb bcos of one word...

Greed...

TS is trying to scam my time, no thanks.

TLDR.

same for any other scam call

the more questions u ask, they will cut u off.

This number is registered to one "Rafinna" according to TrueCaller.

LOL. So you also got experience this before. The thing i find very funny is the teachers all claim graduated from London school of economics, but their english is worst that China uni grad. and the female teacher sounded so bad that its so obvious its reading from a script. And that the script for both person is written by the same person. Im still waiting to see what is the scam all about. The classes is half talk cock and half sales talk, trying to butter u up for something.

This post has been edited by WhitE LighteR: Feb 1 2024, 09:28 PM

it's either a 1-man or 2-men job. all of them speak the same way. when you don't interact in the group, the so called customer service (and even some shoe polisher/konco accounts) will message you, follow up, etc

first, they will ask you to trade according to their methods (they will tell you when to buy and sell), which usually work with some profit

next, they will then tokok about stock "institutional account", saying something like trading behind a big corp. the moment you see that they can even place trades during break hours is a red flag already. beyond that some konco account will message you, saying he/she topup 50k lol. but all speak the same way. like chinaman trying to scam ppl with broken english.

i've observed them until i kena kick out because i did not topup to their so called 'institutional account' after their persuasion. back then the so called sifu name is a person calling himself "Alan Lau" with picture copied from linkedin (another real Alan Lau)

Lots of this kind of cheap scamming method nowadays, to convince others they're now working in a group. Like those investment scam, the very first offer they're showing invest RM500 get RM1500 within 7 days already a red flag. But to convince their potential victims, others sharing their banking slip for the profit they earned. Even added a little religion to spice their MO, so pity those old people get scammed hundreds of thousands from these pricks. Man if I were the judge, gonna force them to return all the money they scammed or else facing lifetime in jail as this people don't deserve to stay outside.

so the one you experience already bungkus already or not?

i did this, report the group but still didnt leave and i want see what will happen... next day the group gone.. so report function is working

report to whatsapp?

Not sure.. I din search that number.. Put pretty wimmen pic.. Sure fake btw... Lel

ya the pic itself is a red flag. where got human use same pic for linkedin, whatsapp and ppt all the same 1 pic. so funny.

Just dick pic her la.

You think it's easy to come up with a fresh scam that people would easily fall for?

As I said only greed make a person fall...

U have the number now 😂

Yalo.... We high iq wat.. Lol

ya...report but dont leave... if they kick me the group shall still there...but it disappeared meaning whatsapp did something..

Can report to MCMC?

Yup report the way to settle these scammers.

After many reports the number will be permanently banned.

why ts keep open thread on serious k?

cannot brain this ts oso

the woman pretty or not?
ask her send nude photo first, then I will invest 5mil into her plan

I once got amessage about a part time job, she said she' s from company that deals with ig account, my task was just to click follow a few ig account, for every account i click follow i will received rm2, they want my bank account no. n i give them my not so active account. After i agree to join they give me link to tele group, in the group consist of many people, i looked at every picture in the tele group all of them look suspicious like a grandma wear so grand n her english like the english from google translate.
So on the first day starting from morning until night i done all the task the've given me, n for every 5 task completed rm10 will be bank in my account, n it was legit. They gave a total of rm80 that day.
But during that task they ask me to donate rm10 for charity n for that they give me rm20 as a reward.
So comes the next day, ask me to complete the task n after the 4th task suddenly they wanted me bank in rm 100, rm200, rm300 n rm400 if i want to increase the payment from rm2 to higher amount, and after that i said i want to quit, she ask me why, n i said i know a scammer when i see one, auto the scammer rage at me n strt to curse in chinese n then in english. The easiest rm80 that i ever got from a scammer.

This post has been edited by NoNameSake: Feb 1 2024, 10:28 PM

yeah I am going to report.

I challenged the watsapp admin, she told me she is based in HK.

I asked her "WTF ABC Co is a local brokerage co has to do with HK based?"

She replied that it is a tie up between ABC Co and a famous MNC bank in HK called DEF Bank.

I heard of DEF bank but they do have a branch iN Msia.

She then said that one in google address branch in Msia is a scam.

I play on, and told her I checked n called ABC customer service that they have no tie up with DEF bank.

She said ABC customer service people have no liasing with ABC top management that's why they don't know.

The way she reply like so unprofessional does not reflect DEF Bank at all.

ABC Brokerage is a small co in Msia, there is no way their customer service don't know.

I am beginning to learn and uncover more about these investment scammer ploys

For all I know I could be messaging with a batang guy.

Her watsapp profile obviously show a pretty HK amoi. But is it really her?

I have attended MNC Banks like JP Morgan and HSBC seminars.

I can say the way these scammers claimed to be from world class bank, presented like your pasar ah kau style presentation talk cock general knowledge.

good on you.

never ever pay money to receive more money. No such thing in life.

they curse n swear at you, because for every ringgit they lost, their employer will torture them with less food, cow prod electrocution and caning.

Its called pig butchering. Even educated professional singaporeans fall for it. Its very popular when it comes to crypto currency and investment scams. They build up relationship and confidence with you, and when you earn a bit more money, they make you put in more money by instalments. Until it is too late to pull out, that's when they fed you fat enough, they think its time for the "slaughter".

Its not the caller that is the only scammer, they are also the victim. As they been tricked themselves to go overseas for a better job but ended up imprisoned in some barbed wire bangalow with high walls in Scambodia or Myanmar, to do scamming calls. If they don't reach their KPI, they be tortured and withheld food and water.

its those syndicates that are protected by corrupted officials in those countries and run in coordination with the triads and underground criminals that are the sinners that should be punished badly.

if you mean by close shop, not really. based on TS's description, they (or rather he) just changed names etc.

knew it was a scam from day 1 - did not even put a single cent. they're just like the IRS scammers, with horrible England.