Where did you put the negative at body?

Well not sure consider fortunate or unfortunate, my Bezza just reached 2 year old few days ago, its stock battery died today before CNY. Luckily it died before I plan to go outstation to my parent's hometown...

My parents used my car go pasar, they both didn't bring their phones out. Eventually they had to pinjam pasar stall owner phone in order to call me to get the other family car out to jumpstart. My parent's didn't give precise location had to ronda around just to find my car, with the vague location my parents gave.

My Bezza had a cheapo MrDIY jumper but when I attempted to jumpstart and charge with my Honda City Battery + Engine for like 30 minutes using the proper connection setup was useless, I tried to charge it from 8.5V to 12.5V also unable to jump start. It's battery electrochemistry seems too weak, might not be enough current and voltage to jump start.



Eventually I ordered Carput's Battery Replacement for an AMARON GO Series 38B20L for RM 275.

Then a random good samaritan came by, and bring his thicker gauge Jumper cable. And told me not to connect to the metal body of my dead car, instead directly onto the Negative Terminal of my Bezza dead Battery.

Luckily, no hydrogen leaked and the original battery didn't exploded. And my Bezza managed to start up, and  had to cancelled the Carput, where the runner still dunno where go pick up the battery. Called Carput CS and the Runner Tech to cancelled ordered.

So, I went around the neighbourhood to look for an Amaron Dealer Car Battery Shop.

First shop, the Cina uncle macam nak potong me, sell higher than Official Store / Carput, RM 340 for the same Amaron Go Battery.

So directly I go survey another Battery shop RM 290 - RM 20 Trade In. Only just saved RM 5. 

At the end, I think should have let Carput to replace me car battery. In case next time or under warranty period the battery became dead.


Car Batteries nowadays so weak, can't really last more than 2 years+ already? 

My stock battery is some Panasonic Lead-Acid Battery with Refillable Caps.
Only went to Perodua Service Center 3 months ago, the technicians checked the battery report says ok.

I go look back report in details mana pula cold start Voltage was 10V+ but Engine started it was 14V+....
Rated CCA 240A, Measured already 220A...

The Perodua SC didn't bother to inform my battery near dying stage...

Where did you put the negative at body?

At this metal pipe. I don't see any other connecting points without paints.

Already have a 70mai jumpstart pack. Zero worries.

At the same time, also have the Launch OBD2 reader.

Aiyoh. You connected to the aircon line., that’s not a good ground no wonder cannot jump start la. Next time connect out to the engine block, metal piece, close to the starter the better. Or the alternator also can.

I mean it managed to charge my car battery. I don't see any good raw metal without paint surface on my car.
I poked with my multimeter was sense some voltage through, thought it was okay 

elok ke bang bateri amaron ni?

I mean it managed to charge my car battery. I don't see any good raw metal without paint surface on my car.
I poked with my multimeter was sense some voltage through, thought it was okay 

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Good advice. Just want to ask who teach you to connect (-)neg to car body? Apek bawah pokok? Car paint these days already block the connection, also longer route to the battery. I wud suggest direct connection to the battery like in pix, ask the keta hidup to rev car engine first before you attempt dead battery start. Have been helping ppl a lot to jumps start car, even pregnant women who know how to isi minyak and drive saja..Pity nowadays many also dunno how to jumpstart a battery.
*Unker missed the days where you could put car in neutral and jumpstart car in 2nd gear. Maybe CTR or Megane?

Thanks for the heads up TS. Thankfully your parents are all okay. From what I heard certain mechanics shop pipul purposely shorten the lifespan of the battery to 2 years and they keep recycling to new victim

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Good advice. Just want to ask who teach you to connect (-)neg to car body? Apek bawah pokok? Car paint these days already block the connection, also longer route to the battery. I wud suggest direct connection to the battery like in pix, ask the keta hidup to rev car engine first before you attempt dead battery start. Have been helping ppl a lot to jumps start car, even pregnant women who know how to isi minyak and drive saja..Pity nowadays many also dunno how to jumpstart a battery.
*Unker missed the days where you could put car in neutral and jumpstart car in 2nd gear. Maybe CTR or Megane?

And next time no need to wait 30 minutes to charge, just connect and start your car immediately. The idea of jump start is to by pass your dead battery and use the donor battery to start, if the connection all good and donor battery good condition ( and big enough) it should start easily.

Well will do that, with a proper gauge cable I guess.
MrDIY one I feel abit questionable already.

Most likely will be a 1.5 years later I would need a near battery swap.

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Good advice. Just want to ask who teach you to connect (-)neg to car body? Apek bawah pokok? Car paint these days already block the connection, also longer route to the battery. I wud suggest direct connection to the battery like in pix, ask the keta hidup to rev car engine first before you attempt dead battery start. Have been helping ppl a lot to jumps start car, even pregnant women who know how to isi minyak and drive saja..Pity nowadays many also dunno how to jumpstart a battery.
*Unker missed the days where you could put car in neutral and jumpstart car in 2nd gear. Maybe CTR or Megane?

" Just want to ask who teach you to connect (-)neg to car body? "

> Google any how to jump start, even Perodua Manual state (-) to raw conductive ground of car metal body.

If (-) to (-) will have the risk of Hydrogen gas leaked and caused a spark.
Otherwise, shared if Battery is shorted internally just fry two cars only.

agree on the connection

but
connect to body is safer

especially to car that have AGM or EFB
benz they even cover up the negative terminal just to prevent you jump start thru direct connection

Nah, if not done b4, let someone who has done it before do it that's why noobs try and fry cars. Just dun touch the car body with other hand when doing it also. Now batteries mana ada hydrogen gas? All acid free, maintenance free..
Learnt something new, coz have a merc too but touch wood have not had dead batt yet these 3 years compared to jibai H car, every 2 years, on the dot, dieded.

Buy a charger.

Charge the batts to 100% every 6 months.

Ur batts would last at least 3 years.

dah tu sambung kt mana uncle negatif tu? sambung kt **** ke? 

Nah, if not done b4, let someone who has done it before do it that's why noobs try and fry cars. Just dun touch the car body with other hand when doing it also. Now batteries mana ada hydrogen gas? All acid free, maintenance free..

Dafug did I just read? Maintenance free battery tak pakai acid. Pakai apa? Lithium ion ka?

Dafug you read right, how are sealed batteries gonna have acid spilling out? Took too much acid when young? Stunted now?

Don't forget to ask the shop to register the warranty ya. If not you rugi woo 18 months warranty.

By the way u not untung RM5 but u rugi. RM275 is for 36month warranty punya price.

Don't forget to ask the shop to register the warranty ya. If not you rugi woo 18 months warranty.

By the way u not untung RM5 but u rugi. RM275 is for 36month warranty punya price.

How to get 36 Months Warranty?
Amaron’s 36 months warranty programme only covers 38B20L, 46B24 series and DIN type batteries:

Amaron Go NS40ZL (38B20L) : Delivery Price RM280 (inclusive of old battery trade-in)

Amaron Go NS60L/R (46B24L/R) : Delivery Price RM310 (inclusive of old battery trade-in)

Amaron Hi-Life Pro DIN55L/R : Delivery Price RM400 (inclusive of old battery trade-in)

Amaron Hi-Life Pro DIN74L : Delivery Price RM580 (inclusive of old battery trade-in)

Amaron Hi-Life Pro DIN80L : Delivery Price RM690 (inclusive of old battery trade-in)

Amaron Hi-Life Pro DIN100L : Delivery Price RM750 (inclusive of old battery trade-in)

It’s for vehicles with petrol engines only, and the mileage limit is 60,000 km (or 36 months, whichever comes first). For diesel-powered vehicles, the standard warranty is nine months.

1-18 Months: Free replacement

19 Months: 47% Discount

20 Months: 45% Discount

21 Months: 42% Discount

22 Months: 39% Discount

23 Months: 36% Discount

24 Months: 33% Discount

25 Months: 31% Discount

26 Months: 28% Discount

27 Months: 25% Discount

28 Months: 22% Discount

29 Months: 20% Discount

30 Months: 17% Discount

31-33 Months: 15% Discount

34-36 Months: 10% Discount

Note: * The warranty period shall be commenced from the date of invoice. Warranty claim will be on 1 to 1 replacement basis (same model and same brand) and subject to the Final Outcome, if any/ necessary. The replaced battery will carry the warranty as follow:-

(a) Claim made within the 1st till 18th months warranty period (free of charge replacement) shall carry the balance warranty period as if the returned battery. Eg: claim has been made on second months after purchase where the battery purchased has been returned for replacement, the replaced battery will carry 34 months warranty period, i.e. the balance warranty period of the battery returned; or

(b) Claim made excess or after 18th months warranty period [with the payment (subject to the discount given) made for the replacement] shall carry the full duration of warranty period, i.e. 36 months as if a new battery purchased, provided the same registration requirements are met for the replaced battery.

* The Warranty Period would be made available to the customer(s) who has completed the registration of purchase of AMARON battery (“Online Registration”) through the relevant online system within fourteen (14) days from the date of purchase. The said Online Registration could be carried out by downloading our Mobile App (“AMARON 36”) via Google Play Store and/ or Apple iOS Store. Once downloaded the said Mobile App, kindly follow the instructions and directions provided/ found in the said Mobile App, such as to scan the code of battery, upload the front photo of the vehicle with the registration number, mileage meter of the vehicle and the battery invoice, to complete the said registration. Warranty claim will be on 1 to 1 replacement basis (same model and same brand) and subject to Final Outcome, if any/ necessary. Failure/ delay to complete the Online Registration within the specified timeframe will render the Extended Warranty Period non-claimable and/ or become null and void. However, the Standard Warranty Period will still applicable and coverable for AMARON batteries purchased.

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Connect 'kat b*t*h mak hang! Dah la mak ko hijo, pondan-gi tu! Baca baik aku tuli apo, "connect to the battery like in the diagram".  fail om puteh byk sgt-ke 'kat skh?

Car Batteries nowadays so weak, can't really last more than 2 years+ already?  :sweat:

My stock battery is some Panasonic Lead-Acid Battery with Refillable Caps.
Only went to Perodua Service Center 3 months ago, the technicians checked the battery report says ok.

I go look back report in details mana pula cold start Voltage was 10V+ but Engine started it was 14V+....
Rated CCA 240A, Measured already 220A...

The Perodua SC didn't bother to inform my battery near dying stage... :stars:

you left the engine idle start/stop feature always ON , or got turn off everytime you drive ?

i heard the feature will shorten the battery life.

Normally that one shop will ask dealer to register for them. Or u can dm me barcode number at your battery. I can check for you.

Why didn’t u try batteriku. Their price is quite good the last time I was stranded. I check their price and online price. Similar

Got recommendation on Shopee? Last time i Google battery tender but expensive

Shall see some BYD and Tesla stuck on the roadsides

Thanks for the heads up TS. Thankfully your parents are all okay. From what I heard certain mechanics shop pipul purposely shorten the lifespan of the battery to 2 years and they keep recycling to new victim

you left the engine idle start/stop feature always ON , or got turn off everytime you drive ?

i heard the feature will shorten the battery life.

Bezza 1.3 don’t have start stop feature only myvi iinm

bezza not got auto start stop? can use regular battery?

for what reason?

Actually it works. I can tell u, there are many kiam siap Vellfire 2.5L users that use regular battery. Those cars have start-stop also. But the owners do disable them every single time immediately right after they start their engines.

Well not sure consider fortunate or unfortunate, my Bezza just reached 2 year old few days ago, its stock battery died today before CNY. Luckily it died before I plan to go outstation to my parent's hometown...

My parents used my car go pasar, they both didn't bring their phones out. Eventually they had to pinjam pasar stall owner phone in order to call me to get the other family car out to jumpstart. My parent's didn't give precise location had to ronda around just to find my car, with the vague location my parents gave.

My Bezza had a cheapo MrDIY jumper but when I attempted to jumpstart and charge with my Honda City Battery + Engine for like 30 minutes using the proper connection setup was useless, I tried to charge it from 8.5V to 12.5V also unable to jump start. It's battery electrochemistry seems too weak, might not be enough current and voltage to jump start.



Eventually I ordered Carput's Battery Replacement for an AMARON GO Series 38B20L for RM 275.

Then a random good samaritan came by, and bring his thicker gauge Jumper cable. And told me not to connect to the metal body of my dead car, instead directly onto the Negative Terminal of my Bezza dead Battery.

Luckily, no hydrogen leaked and the original battery didn't exploded. And my Bezza managed to start up, and  had to cancelled the Carput, where the runner still dunno where go pick up the battery. Called Carput CS and the Runner Tech to cancelled ordered.

So, I went around the neighbourhood to look for an Amaron Dealer Car Battery Shop.

First shop, the Cina uncle macam nak potong me, sell higher than Official Store / Carput, RM 340 for the same Amaron Go Battery.

So directly I go survey another Battery shop RM 290 - RM 20 Trade In. Only just saved RM 5. 

At the end, I think should have let Carput to replace me car battery. In case next time or under warranty period the battery became dead.


Car Batteries nowadays so weak, can't really last more than 2 years+ already? 

My stock battery is some Panasonic Lead-Acid Battery with Refillable Caps.
Only went to Perodua Service Center 3 months ago, the technicians checked the battery report says ok.

I go look back report in details mana pula cold start Voltage was 10V+ but Engine started it was 14V+....
Rated CCA 240A, Measured already 220A...

The Perodua SC didn't bother to inform my battery near dying stage...

Search 12V battery charger got a bunch.

Now price dropped till below RM50. Few years ago, RM80-110.

Actually it works. I can tell u, there are many kiam siap Vellfire 2.5L users that use regular battery. Those cars have start-stop also. But the owners do disable them every single time immediately right after they start their engines.

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Good advice. Just want to ask who teach you to connect (-)neg to car body? Apek bawah pokok? Car paint these days already block the connection, also longer route to the battery. I wud suggest direct connection to the battery like in pix, ask the keta hidup to rev car engine first before you attempt dead battery start. Have been helping ppl a lot to jumps start car, even pregnant women who know how to isi minyak and drive saja..Pity nowadays many also dunno how to jumpstart a battery.
*Unker missed the days where you could put car in neutral and jumpstart car in 2nd gear. Maybe CTR or Megane?

Yeah, parents are okay, just abit drama from mother keep giving suggestions that I've proposed first, then shove it back to me, after getting her phone back calling relatives that does car insurance. 

Well I hope not, very non-ethical, shortening battery lifespan. But if stock from manufacturer, defects or electrochemistry not well made I can't blame la.

I got 2 questions seeking answers

1. Modern cars got so many electronic. Safe to jumpstart? Wouldn't fly the electronic?

2. Anyone use something like this to jumpstart?

I got 2 questions seeking answers

1. Modern cars got so many electronic. Safe to jumpstart? Wouldn't fly the electronic?

2. Anyone use something like this to jumpstart?

Yup it works until their dashboard starts to light up like a Christmas tree and then ask "Apa ni ?"

Nah... it works. Because original from factory also not running on AGM battery. They all use EFB ones like all typical non-hybrid cars with start-stop.
Regular cars with no start stop also can use EFB batteries. I have tried and lasted close to 4 years that has a bunch of audio upgrades before the battery worn out.
My boss had his Vellfire for 7 years since 2016 until he upgraded , never seen Xmas lights on the dashboard... Thats a Toyota.. Not BMW...

TS , your Bezza got Eco Idle ?

The good quality batteries that I am getting directly from the manufacturer has no problems whatsoever. Haven't found one yet and there is a good reason for that. If there is a ever problem, it's going to be a big problem cause production is made innhuge batches and it's a freaking big problem.

My clients batteries that die prematurely within the warranty period will be immediately investigated and it's usually the drivers error. After the battery is properly recharged, they can still use it. No problems at all and the drivers learn not to repeat the same mistake.

I never bought battery for all the car in my house, my friend open scrap yard, so i just go there and take for free only... U will be surprised by how many battery is actually "misdiagnosed" or "scam" by mechanic.

Actually just use jumper cable connect to the connection at the dead car can dy don't have to connect to battery . At least this way u can reach home then buy car battery later .

benz ori battery very tahan 1

if buy from C&C will have 4 years warranty* with 1 year 6k minimum mileage

but how much i dunno liao

This message is bought to you by Carput™

I mean somewhat true.
Sometimes just might need a basic recharge to get things going only 

Even today I went to two car battery workshop, tell me different story on my Car Battery Health on their meters.
One say 20% SOC/SOH and another 50% SOC/SOH... 

I don't own one, but I curious the accuracy of these meters.
Who knows you recharge the battery can go another 3-6 months before really kicking the bucket after the electrolytes or ions are depleted.

Well I also saw that promo. But too much hassle drive to Subang workshop. Later need to risk my car unable to start up again.

Well concern maybe got arcing or battery explode or battery is considered "shorted" state.
Will short out the car electronics, and ended up the with 2 cars with flat batteries or shorted electronics later.

Well, I think newer cars less of an issue. 
Hopefully my dashboard+fog lamps running won't be sucking too much power from the battery and/or alternator.
Really stupid feature of Bezza of designing a dashboard so recessed can't even read the speedometer under sunlight without the backlight on.

I normally only leave that on, heating element for rear windshield also off.
Only normally need to drive additional Xiaomi Dashcam from 5V/2A USB port and a 12V to 5V/9V/12V PD Charger Type C charger only 

Thanks to those people i found 1 month old battery at my friend's scrap yard.

U can try Kingbolen BM550, quite cheap and accurate, less than rm50 can get, youtube got ppl test it against Bosch battery tester and it is almost as accurate as the Bosch.

Redneck like me I don't just charge it using a conventional battery charger, I zap those battery with DC inverter welder, after zapping u can see the CCA improve. That how my scrap yard's friend lorry don't have to buy battery. And of course not all battery can be zapped, if u don't know what you are doing, you can end up with acid bath.

I never bought battery for all the car in my house, my friend open scrap yard, so i just go there and take for free only... U will be surprised by how many battery is actually "misdiagnosed" or "scam" by mechanic.

had done aftermarket modifications to his vehicle.

A mechanic who retires a Good Battery from service in a client vehicle is not honest but the mechanic who sends a Good Battery to the scrap yard, is he an intelligent mechanic ? LOL

You must be blessed to have so many intelligent mechanics nearby.

may I know which mods that should be avoided/ think thouroughly?

a. changing the infotainment system to aftermarket one - for 360 feature
b. DVR

both should be ok right?

Some of it are sent in from walk in customer, that bangla worker also ask, eh battery baru 1 bulan sudah mau buang ka... that customer say, neh itu mechanic lah, sudah tukar lagi x boleh, lagi tukar lagi check baru tau alternator punya hal. Then every week will have this one guy come with a small van, he will unload on average at least 10 battery each time, and he can explicitly tell that bangla worker which battery still good working condition which is not, then the worker will separate out the working battery and when i test, that seller put his money where his mouth is. And this guy, how much money u give him, he don't care, he just take whatever u give him, he don't even care if he bring in a DIN110 but you pay him NS40 price, just as long as he walks out with money.

All i know is this is very good for the economy even though is dishonest or incompetent mechanic. And beneficial for people like me. And good for my scrap yard friend, pay lower than market value still got ppl willing to sell, then drill holes to the battery and brim it with water before selling to larger scrap, cause larger scrap they weight the battery instead of by unit and size. Then also beneficial to my other close friend, they need battery just let me know they get the battery for free (as long as they exchange their old one) and belanja me eat.

That is why, my clients are taught to listen only to me. I say battery can use, they follow la. 1 client went to SC for servicing. Battery on!y 1 year, SC told him battery weak liao. Luckily he brought up the issue with me and when I check the battery ok je. I asked the guy where is the proof that the SC said it was weak ? He said they just told him verbally only. I replied, next time anybody say anything about my Principal Co battery I install, I want to see the back & white. It has been 6 months already, the weak battery still OK only. Of course it's a good battery la. This is classic example of battery 1 year already kah ? Going to spoil already according to the battery tester inside their head. 😂 Kelapa otak dia.