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Avangelice
post Jan 24 2024, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 24 2024, 09:38 AM)
90% of cancer patients recovery is from surgery, advised to remove both breast early.

breast cancer is often caused by defective brca1 and brca2 genes. genetic test could offer early treatment.
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This is wrong.

Yes some people opt to remove both breast but some do not. It's easy to tell a woman remove both breast but we need to consider their mental well being. If one breast is fine and her cancer type isn't triple negative, don't need to remove both.

Also genetic testing can only be done AFTER surgery not before. It costs 15k myr. Most doctors suggest this to be done the last to focus on the cancer removal. Brca is meant to give the patient a decision to do chemo or not. It's meant for those cancers like my wife who's one the fence. Not too serious and not too light, donno if need chemo or not that kind of thing. If your biopsy, pet scan and ultrasound and post surgery test shows u need chemo. Cannot run away
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post Jan 24 2024, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 24 2024, 12:34 PM)
No more process food. Those come with barcode and not how it appear in nature throw it out. No bread, no rice, no pasta.
No sugar
72h water only fast before chemo will increase chemo.effect in cancer while reducing the side effect and protect your own cell
Broccoli sprout -the pursest is pure thera rx
Lycopene
Metformin
Green tea extract
Increase more soya products like tofu, Tempe
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The above target multiple anticancer pathway.

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If you knew the types of breast cancer out there you wouldn't suggest this. There's a cancer subtype called er and pr positive which means the cancer is fed by the hormone estrogen. Increasing soya intake increases estrogen.

72 hour water fast is deadly with chemo therapy. You are supposed to eat as much as u can so you have energy to stand the chemo process. Why are you asking people to fast for chemo??!

We asked my wife oncologist about sugar and he said this. Cancer is just like any cell in our body. All of them feeds on sugar. The thing is if you wanna "starve" the cancer out of nutrients you also have to starve the rest of the body of sugar and carbs which you need to be strong to handle the surgery and chemo.

Metformin is to control diabetes. Why are you blatantly suggesting supplements?

You should stay in finance section than giving out statements like this. Leave it to those who went through cancer.



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post Jan 24 2024, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(khengs2003 @ Jan 24 2024, 12:51 PM)
My friend consume this
https://www.nestlehealthscience.my/brands/o...act/oral-impact
during her radiotherapy treatment. Neck CA
She go for the lump removal and radiotherapy session.
Wish you fast recovery
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This is correct. With chemo you lose your appetite and your digestive system essentially shuts down.

Meal replacements like this goes easy on the stomach.
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post Jan 24 2024, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 24 2024, 01:27 PM)
If you are the doctor you claim to be you will see what I said are truth. Go look up. Metformin breast cancer. Fasting and effect on chemotherapy. Go look up. People who fast have lesser side effects than than who don't waste. Kindly open your mind. Regarding tofu and estrogen, this is mythy have been debunk by person who develop cancer drugs (Dr William li author of eat to beat disease).Cancer doctors don't know shit about nutrition.

Kindly google and see what I say is right or wrong.
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I'm not an oncologist nor are you.

Leave the medical stuff to the specialist. Don't give out prescription supplements like you are one.

My wife best friend did it to her over lunch. Same thing what u said don't believe the cancer doctors. They don't know stuff. Eat the following supplements and even gave out doses. Made me so damn pissed she's already dealing that she has cancer and people like u and her friend are saying don't believe the doctors that you see.


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post Jan 24 2024, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(eldenring @ Jan 24 2024, 01:30 PM)
My mom just hit by same grade 2 last year.

1. Dont panic, dont negative - very common thing, really.
2. Seek multi advices for different doctors.
3. Get reputable doctor.
Bonus: 4. Dont keep listen to different relatives different advices different worldviews - even doctor scolded us not to listen relatives as if they are pro

Today, she's like any normal person.
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My wife oncologist told us he has patients who disappear for 4 months to 6 months after finding out they got cancer. Then when they came back the initial staging becomes stage 4. Ask them why? They say they did stuff like what ramjade is asking. Courses to teach you to diet your cancer away.

Totally stupid then I found out my wife had cancer 31st may. Within two weeks we were in beacon hospital. Not 4 months not 6 months. As soon as possible.
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post Jan 24 2024, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 24 2024, 01:38 PM)
No thanks. The best thing for everyone is to stay off the internet. Get the consults in and the reports in and get things done ASAP.

The more shit you read the more time you use to consider your options the more you let your cancer progress.
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post Jan 25 2024, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Jan 25 2024, 12:51 PM)
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Nobody report you. Bro I'm the last person who will report things in lowyat

Ramjade and I don't see eye to eye but we respect each other's beliefs. I think u kena report because this is serious kopitiam. Your reply doesn't suit the sub

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post Jan 25 2024, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Jan 25 2024, 04:20 PM)
HER2 positive means there's a particular receptor that specific chemo drugs can help target. It's a "better" type of breast cancer (I don't know how else to put it - because there's really no good breast cancer, or cancer of any kind), in the sense that oncologists can leverage on this receptor and utilize receptor-specific chemotherapy.

Studies have shown that early HER-2 diagnosis with appropriate surgical and chemo/oncological intervention (including the newer biologic/immunologic drugs - the zumab family of monoclonal antibodies, which some of the doctors here would recognize by its trade name of Herceptin) have a far higher 5-year survival rate when compared with the dreaded "triple negative" variant of breast cancers.

It will be a long road to recovery, but there will be light at the end of the tunnel. All the very best, TS.

Edited - sorry, forgot to quote wrc123 for context when answering the above.
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For the layman.

Er/pr positive means the cancer feeds on the hormones estrogen and progesterone. Tamixofen will be best medication for it

Her2 positive means it will respond very well to specific chemo drug.

Being positive for all three means you have better success in remission for a long time with the appropriate treatments.

A triple negative means the cancer will not respond to most treatments and your only hail Mary is cutting it off via a mastectomy (some people opt for bilateral mastectomy) to reduce the likelihood it appears again.

Op if you opt to do chemo request for cold cap. Beacon has it to reduce the hair falling

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QUOTE(smsid @ Jan 25 2024, 04:41 PM)
I also need input from you.

Do you shave your armpits and use anti perspirant deodorant daily?
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Wtf is this question??

Do you ask a woman this point blank? One that has cancer??

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post Jan 25 2024, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(smsid @ Jan 25 2024, 05:02 PM)
Because breast cancer does not happen out of thin air, for years they have linked anti perspirant as the root cause for breast cancer because it disturbed their own normal perspirant.

And by shaving your armpit, you make it even more potent.

Getting to the root cause is more important, no? Rather than naively think it as some random event.
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*bang head against the wall*

Op is already dealing with the news she has breast cancer. Not to forget the impending chemo and radiation therapy and here you come in saying did you shave your armpits? It's kinda your fault for getting cancer then.

If you said this to my wife, I would have socked you in the face right there and then.
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post Feb 1 2024, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Feb 1 2024, 04:45 PM)
wah 15k for genetic testing?

so expensive

govt hospital got do at lower cost?
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Brca genetic testing sent to UK for it. Cannot be done here apparently. Hence the price. Government where got do this.
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post Feb 1 2024, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Feb 1 2024, 05:15 PM)
our healthcare so bad, can't even cater for this test
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No man even the Americans and English with cancer I talk to say Brca isn't for everyone with cancer those like my wife who are on the fence like not needing chemo 50% to 50% needing chemo do well with Brca test. It's very niche.

 

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