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post Jan 20 2024, 02:48 PM

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Not sure why they didn't use LFP as the starter battery instead of the old-style lead acid battery. Lead acid batteries have a very short lifespan. Probably to cut some costs.

But luckily...

BYD announces to stop using lead-acid starting battery

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BYD recently announced that it will stop using 12V lead-acid starting battery on its electric vehicles, which will be equipped with 12V LFP starting battery instead. BYD becomes the first carmaker in the world that applies LFP starting battery to all of its electric vehicles.

Compared with lead-acid battery, BYD's LFP starting battery has longer cycle life of over 3,000 cycle times, which almost equals the service life of the entire vehicle, against an average life of 2-3 years for lead-acid battery.

They are the first to announce that. Hope other EV makers do the same.
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post Jan 20 2024, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Jan 20 2024, 02:53 PM)
Wait…
EV jump start the electronic still ok?
Not scare later fry the electronic meh?
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There's an external battery which is the same type we have on ICE cars. If flat just join the terminals with another car's battery then can start the EV. They shouldn't have use traditional lead acid batteries in the first place when the EV has a sophisticated LFP battery.
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post Jan 20 2024, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(old_and_slow @ Jan 20 2024, 02:57 PM)
later go workshop nobody know how to fix because its still new

deswai ev is considered rich ppl car - those who can afford to wait and pay, got backup car
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EV nothing much to fix. In this case, it's the starter lead-acid battery that became flat. Anyone can easily solve that problem.
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post Jan 20 2024, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Jan 20 2024, 03:01 PM)
Becos hear someone say don’t jump start when car battery flat…
Later electronic fry…..
Apply to when the external jump start battery is bigger that problem battery….
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In the case of an EV, there is no need for a huge power requirement to start it, unlike ICE cars because there is no ignition involved, so connecting another car's battery to the starter battery should be safe.
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post Jan 20 2024, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(old_and_slow @ Jan 20 2024, 03:08 PM)
normally this one need how long to repair?
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Just get a new lead acid battery and plug it in. But with BYD's announcement, this would be a thing of the past as the starter lead acid battery is phased out.
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post Jan 20 2024, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 20 2024, 05:06 PM)
Why do EV need the starter battery?
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The starter battery powers the car's computer. Not sure if it is still correctly called the ECU (Engine Control Unit), because EV doesn't have an engine.
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post Jan 21 2024, 06:25 AM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 20 2024, 07:55 PM)
Ah, I see.
So high tech, I wonder why it's not possible to have a stepped down 12V rail instead of a physical battery.
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Separate battery means the driver still can control some things and receive reports even if you drive until the main battery is totally flat.
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post Jan 21 2024, 06:38 AM

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QUOTE(vexus @ Jan 21 2024, 06:28 AM)
China car is still far away to reach reliable notch compare to japan.
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You must be referring to China ICE cars. EVs are far more reliable than ICE cars. I'm sick of repairing this, repairing that, changing this, changing that with ICE cars.

If you have driven ICE cars long enough, you might even get the experience of things falling off, such as the exhaust pipe, or things overheating such as the radiator.

Maybe you do like repairing your ICE cars and calling the tow truck often, Japanese car or otherwise. I don't.
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post Jan 21 2024, 06:51 AM

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QUOTE(robotking123 @ Jan 21 2024, 06:45 AM)
Ya, and 7 years later you will pay 3x more to replace the battery, save all those money for your new battery
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It's a myth, you do know that, don't you? They don't have such a short lifespan. Unless you use it as a taxi or drive over half a million km in 7 years.
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post Jan 21 2024, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 21 2024, 04:08 PM)
If it is EV, it even more funny.

Why the car need to drive to charge back the 12v battery?

An auto switch or whatever to let the main battery charge the 12v battery. It shouldn’t an issue of car cannot drive cause by 12v battery.

Farking cannot brain such stupid tech.
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EVs don't have alternators, another problematic moving part on ICE cars, prone to failure. The starter battery is charged by the EV main battery.
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post Jan 21 2024, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(robotking123 @ Jan 21 2024, 03:38 PM)
This cny see got ev stuck on highway or not, jam till battery empty
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EVs don't have engines, so it doesn't have wasteful idling.

You are far more likely to encounter overheated ICE cars that boiled over during massive jams.
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post Jan 21 2024, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(derebanz @ Jan 21 2024, 03:57 PM)


This type of battery? It is more expensive though.
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It is more expensive, which was probably why many EVs use lead-acid batteries as the starter. But since BYD manufactures LFP batteries, its cost should be lower than others, so its decision to get rid of the lead acid battery is easier.

 

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