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Jan 21 2024, 07:27 AM
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QUOTE(trusol @ Jan 21 2024, 06:38 AM) You must be referring to China ICE cars. EVs are far more reliable than ICE cars. I'm sick of repairing this, repairing that, changing this, changing that with ICE cars. If you have driven ICE cars long enough, you might even get the experience of things falling off, such as the exhaust pipe, or things overheating such as the radiator. Maybe you do like repairing your ICE cars and calling the tow truck often, Japanese car or otherwise. I don't. boring oh engines..have 10 years old jazz 20+ years old kancil at home and a 5 years old picanto..after few years all same only power escapes not that smooth and just not nice to drive anymore put fully syn oil lah what oil its just the same once engine wear out its not nice anymore
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Jan 21 2024, 08:45 AM
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 21 2024, 07:36 AM) man thus is the dumbest thing i had read today to date Of course,, coming from people like you here you know all..yawn
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Jan 21 2024, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 21 2024, 08:49 AM) i'm more interested on how you quantify for the "power escape" because apparently you know more than me right? you have kancil, picanto, and jazz that we don't have And how do you prove that a engine doesn't lose horsepower and efficiency over the years You ask me I you back if you don't mind
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Jan 21 2024, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 21 2024, 09:01 AM) What should I be the one to prove it when you are the one claiming your car have "power escape" I didn't claim anything in my previous statement, but simply asking you to prove what you claimed. don't forget about what's the criteria for something to have "power escape" is it 20% power loss, or is it 1% power loss? errr why do i need to prove to you?
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Jan 21 2024, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 21 2024, 09:12 AM) i guess you can't walk your talk then  very disappointing behavior the thing is that why should i? these kinda thing can read it easily..there are people discuss it but you wanna win over a argument over the internet asking people to prove it..sound silly to me guess thats the thing with people in this forum lol
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Jan 21 2024, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 21 2024, 09:53 AM) nah no need to talk so much to justify you dodging your own talk, I already understand you are king and we can never question you right?  it's alright bro, we just treat your comments in the future without any seriousness anymore okie you start with a tone saying dumb lah what lah..if wanna say something useful just say it no need twist and turn..you could have give your opinion and why its so hard i dont mind have conversation with anyone over the internet even i dont know you..talk a little also like wanna argue so damn hard anyway have a good day
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Jan 21 2024, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 21 2024, 10:28 AM) that's my opinion, it's dumb and dumber when you are asking others to prove what you yourself claimed anyway, continue on with your own internet facts that's coming straight out from echo chamber confirmation bias thats not a opinion, its just you wanna jibe on others just like most here whatever makes you happy my friend as long make you feel big moving along
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Jan 21 2024, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 21 2024, 10:34 AM) asking you to show what you claimed as "power escape" is "makes me feel big" okie you get alot of potential to be a politician with those taichi skills bro you say confirmation bias..but in f1 or racing in general wear out engine slower lap times and failing F1 engine still its a engine just like in your car..uses the same fuel do the same thing the same rule apply which is wear and tear just a in F1 it wear a thousand times faster but a F1 engine is very specialized and they lose power so what to a road car engine driving over the years..can the engine in your car still fresh after years of using?
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Jan 21 2024, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 21 2024, 11:27 AM) f1 engines aren't the same as normal car engines bro, even the tolerance is totally different. parts in f1 engine are so tight it needed to be warmed up by a heater before it can be started. normal car engines don't have tolerances as that, and the materials used is not the same grade too of course i'm taking about confirmation bias, there's people testing their 10-20 yers old car on dyno which has the same hp as the car when it's new (manufacturer claimed), there's also old ferraris engine tested on dyno tested to lose like half the power. so which conclusion is correct? are you going to take the ferrari's case and claim that as power escape? that's what we refer to confirmation bias so that's also why i asked you, how do you quantify as power escapr since you claimed that you feel it on your kancil, picanto and jazz? can you answer me now? like i say still a engine that it cant escape from wear and tear no matter what or how they are made of the kancil is probably the best example, 225K KM still on ori gearbox and engine..chnage oil every 5K km change gearbox oil every 40K km..even step on loud pedal it makes so much noise but going from 20 to 50km/h takes a little more time these days..20 to 50km/h its very quick back in the days..its even amazing back then driving in city/town with that pickup speed..so what now? my leg gone soft? from 1999 till now the kancil is still as good as it use to be while im the one wearing out? or like you say im just bias its just in head car is slower lol but a car so old claim it doesnt loses some horsie i dont believe it
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Jan 21 2024, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 21 2024, 12:07 PM) cause power loss on aged engine is such a significantly small issue in the real world for 99.99% of the people. I haven't seen any of my friend send their mitsu evos, 350z, silvias etc for engine rebuild yet because it's such an insignificant issue for well designed engines. My 35 years old 4AGE still have good acceleration. kancil runs on carb, you probably should check your carb and your engine probably need teppet adjustments. newer cars barely have noticeable power loss issues anymore, my 20 years old kelisa which runs on fuel.injection don't have any issues on power. I just recently changed all oil seals and gaskets last year or two ago and opened the engine head, no issues on the cylinder wall and piston rings, still runs great with power to date. what about your picanto and jazz? you are a car enthusiast is very different from the rest of us lah..even i like cars alot but im not until like you go drop engine and rebuild you do a more rigorous maintenance compare to average car owner any car will run better jazz my sis the one complain say potong car very slow nowadays..i say to her probably just she dont know build momentum lol but just coming to 11 years old 100K KM+ only picanto still got warranty until this may..but not refer to this lah..you wanna buy ah? genuine low mileage car zero accident
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Jan 21 2024, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 21 2024, 12:28 PM) that's the thing, they never never send their engines to rebuild yet. my 4age didn't even open the engine for the past 20 years. my 2003 vios 240k km don't have power issues too, maybe slightly lesser power than when it was new but not to the point i'm annoyed on day to day drive, it's still runs with good power. honestly i can't really feel that it has even lost that much power. the power is still relatively almost the same just the way things are..either make your car as good as possible or just dont care much anymore last time wajunk i use fully syn oil do this maintenance try what brake pads what tires but after 10 years its slow off the line get even slower and the engine become noisier until fedup of it and change to picanto which is night and day different..so much quieter better ride more comfy looking at ev since i dont drive much anymore, but ev still have ev issues..just wait and see how things goes for now
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Jan 21 2024, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 21 2024, 01:05 PM) it really depends on how well the engine is designed and built one guy dynoed his 16 years old porsche 911 with 56k miles, stock should ne 300hp on flywheel, it measured 275hp on the wheel, barely any loss of power but some other cars, can have huge power losses, i don't like those brands after seeing those. i'm also waiting for cheap ev because doesn't seem good choice to buy new ice car now when nee things keeps coming out one of my friend had waja, i also drove one long time ago and i don't find them to be loud hmm, my friend's pretty old too with mitsu engine Think properly first before get a ev, there are good things but also huge bad points with ev.. with EV either it works for your lifestyle or it don't Mine also a 2002 with mitsu, didn't abuse it too much just enjoy the handling a little lol and not say high mileage just 130k km or so only.. drive on highway the noise is quite loud add with tire noise it's kinda tiring
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