Oh my, so many cars got problem

Hi! Last friday i experienced some problems with my Atto3. After starting the car i had this notification, then it was blocked and i couldn’t re-start. I thought because of my latest car battery level of 23% the night before. Called the depannage/breakdown service. The problem was the start battery (accu) which was totally flat. After a traditional jump-start session, the car restarted. Surprisingly car battery level stayed 23% despite the cold temperature, so i could easily drive around to recharge the start battery that day. Afterwards no problem to start the car. However, another problem occured : all the steering wheel buttons just stopped working (cruise control, music volume, etc).

Made the appointment with the BYD service centre next week. Hope it will get fixed soon and no more problems afterwards, cos i really like the car and it’s just so unexpected to experience some problems (already) for a relatively new car. On the other hands, i read on the other EV forum in Belgium that apparantly this start battery problem occurs regularly with EV’s…

Hope BYD can fix this.

Boy96 cum ur feveret EV owaiiiii

Masalah orang kaya

lol. that system error message so cheap.. 'BYD shop'...

BYD Service Center la topkek. shop....

Got time at hand. Come I help you Google.

haha ini kari bei yan diu lah

This

EV more software problem rather than mechanical

Takyah pening takyah susah

Angkat myvi sudah

Rich people problem,

Last I heard from my buddy in Volvo. People have bought up all the remaining stocks for Volvo EV cars. People are snapping up luxury cars before service tax increase and luxury tax introduced.

Next batch of new Volvo cars have increased in prices and have quite long wait list.

Who said orang Malaysia poor, Volvo cars are not cheap man.

the frustation will build up and soon they will return to the ICE scene...

Yup, EV cars are suitable as second car for city drive use only.

ICE > EV cars for now.

HERTZ car rental company also dumped 20,000 EVs and go back to ICE cars...

topkekk...

Pls dont believe EV tak payah balik service...

direct translation from Mandarin lol...

Not sure why they didn't use LFP as the starter battery instead of the old-style lead acid battery. Lead acid batteries have a very short lifespan. Probably to cut some costs.

But luckily...

BYD announces to stop using lead-acid starting battery


They are the first to announce that. Hope other EV makers do the same.

Build your dick.

Wait…
EV jump start the electronic still ok?
Not scare later fry the electronic meh?

later go workshop nobody know how to fix because its still new

deswai ev is considered rich ppl car - those who can afford to wait and pay, got backup car

There's an external battery which is the same type we have on ICE cars. If flat just join the terminals with another car's battery then can start the EV. They shouldn't have use traditional lead acid batteries in the first place when the EV has a sophisticated LFP battery.

EV nothing much to fix. In this case, it's the starter lead-acid battery that became flat. Anyone can easily solve that problem.

Becos hear someone say don’t jump start when car battery flat…
Later electronic fry…..
Apply to when the external jump start battery is bigger that problem battery….

normally this one need how long to repair?

In the case of an EV, there is no need for a huge power requirement to start it, unlike ICE cars because there is no ignition involved, so connecting another car's battery to the starter battery should be safe.

EV can do jump start ???... got alternator ???... won't fried the electronics ???.. last time i heard Hybrid can't use traditional jump start,.. it'll fried the car,..

1 degree Celsius in the screenshot. Masalah negara sejuk.. electrolite frozen.

Just get a new lead acid battery and plug it in. But with BYD's announcement, this would be a thing of the past as the starter lead acid battery is phased out.

I did that to my hybrid. It's ok.

that's why i kept saying, u want a fuss free EV
just buy tesla

Macam restarting andriod phone.
So your ev behaves like an android device

i noob here, why still need jump start..thre are no engine, so what are the purpose of jump start.

why need batery over batery..i pening

Its a 12v battery issue je

The byd battery is using 38b20l battery same as axia and myvi old model without eco idle

This post has been edited by Boy96: Jan 20 2024, 04:07 PM

All the accessories are 12v similar to regular car, takkan mau use 400v of the main power unit to power the small accessories

Last time when I was a kid I had an EV also. The type where I press the remote the her goes forward, and when letgo the car reverse in circle. We were so poorfag that we couldn't afford an EV that could go left and right type. That time also it didn't last long. The 9V battery was expensive and 4 AAA batteries always must replace.

ctrl+alt+Del tak da?

For BEV, can DIY swap out 12v battery like the ICE way?
Any calibration needed?

Can.

For byd no need any calibration. For Conti ev maybe need to reset system

Why do EV need the starter battery?

Do it like router, power off then on again.

Sound moar atas ma.

You go to japang, got Toyota/toyopet store.

ATTO3 still new car so fast already 12V kong?

Mah stock Axia battery lasted me 3+ years.

Yeah normal for non teslas using regular non lithium type 12v's

The starter battery powers the car's computer. Not sure if it is still correctly called the ECU (Engine Control Unit), because EV doesn't have an engine.

pay money to get into so much trouble

might as well just buy a Vios


duh

Lemon we need lemon

BYD Bite Your Dick

transl : gigit batang ko

kasi chance bro, got text limit. have to fill in the blank with the shortest words

EVs are like Windows laptops. Any problems, need to reboot.

Ah, I see.
So high tech, I wonder why it's not possible to have a stepped down 12V rail instead of a physical battery.

You have seen Ora good cat breaking instead of braking yet

why buy a time bomb aka EV

that's why old school car manual the best

Make sense….

Lithium too cheap nowadays at raw material price…

1kwh already around 80+usd like that…

Its not expensive to make 12v lfp battery

yeah explain the steering wheel buttons stopped working.

Tesla already using lithium ion 12v battery since 2022 that last a life time no need replacement

Mater of time all this issue come out

Jumpstart EV car?
How does it work?
For ice car, we need that electricity to ignite the fuel.
For EV?

As long as i no stay or park near ev I am ok...let it burrnnnn

This post has been edited by yolldddd: Jan 20 2024, 10:42 PM

Separate battery means the driver still can control some things and receive reports even if you drive until the main battery is totally flat.

China car is still far away to reach reliable notch compare to japan.

You must be referring to China ICE cars. EVs are far more reliable than ICE cars. I'm sick of repairing this, repairing that, changing this, changing that with ICE cars.

If you have driven ICE cars long enough, you might even get the experience of things falling off, such as the exhaust pipe, or things overheating such as the radiator.

Maybe you do like repairing your ICE cars and calling the tow truck often, Japanese car or otherwise. I don't.

Ya, and 7 years later you will pay 3x more to replace the battery, save all those money for your new battery

It's a myth, you do know that, don't you? They don't have such a short lifespan. Unless you use it as a taxi or drive over half a million km in 7 years.

Hahaha, you will see. Don't be fooled with 10 years warranty that got term 60% usable capacity only. Unless you don't mind to charge it daily like your phone, lol

Inb4 TS is EV hater ...

Because you need the 12v battery to energize the relays to turn on the high voltage battery. If not then you would need the high voltage battery to be on all the time. Easier to use a low voltage battery to run everything in the car and leave the high voltage to run the motors. Also for safety reasons. Imagine you using the high voltage battery, convert it to 12v to run all the accessories….no they prefer to separate high and low voltage

boring oh engines..have 10 years old jazz 20+ years old kancil at home and a 5 years old picanto..after few years all same only power escapes not that smooth and just not nice to drive anymore

put fully syn oil lah what oil its just the same once engine wear out its not nice anymore

man thus is the dumbest thing i had read today to date

Of course,, coming from people like you here you know all..yawn

i'm more interested on how you quantify for the "power escape"

because apparently you know more than me right? you have kancil, picanto, and jazz that we don't have

This post has been edited by terradrive: Jan 21 2024, 08:50 AM

And how do you prove that a engine doesn't lose horsepower and efficiency over the years

You ask me I you back if you don't mind

What should I be the one to prove it when you are the one claiming your car have "power escape"

I didn't claim anything in my previous statement, but simply asking you to prove what you claimed.

don't forget about what's the criteria for something to have "power escape" is it 20% power loss, or is it 1% power loss?

This post has been edited by terradrive: Jan 21 2024, 09:02 AM

Can use this to jump-start?

errr why do i need to prove to you?

i guess you can't walk your talk then

very disappointing behavior

This post has been edited by terradrive: Jan 21 2024, 09:13 AM

the thing is that why should i? these kinda thing can read it easily..there are people discuss it but you wanna win over a argument over the internet asking people to prove it..sound silly to me

guess thats the thing with people in this forum lol

Can. But actually dont even need this. We have the v2l cable, just plug that in it would force the big battery to wake up the 12v battery to recharge them

nah no need to talk so much to justify you dodging your own talk, I already understand you are king and we can never question you right?

it's alright bro, we just treat your comments in the future without any seriousness anymore okie

This post has been edited by terradrive: Jan 21 2024, 09:54 AM

you start with a tone saying dumb lah what lah..if wanna say something useful just say it no need twist and turn..you could have give your opinion and why its so hard

i dont mind have conversation with anyone over the internet even i dont know you..talk a little also like wanna argue so damn hard

anyway have a good day

that's my opinion, it's dumb and dumber when you are asking others to prove what you yourself claimed

at first i was so speechless on how someone can claim something like that while bragging it's true because he owned kancil, picanto and, like other people never owns any or multiple old cars before like wut. I guess when I was driving my 35 years old 4AGE corolla thr power escaped so much it can only runs below 90km/h (oh sorry i did managed to get the almost the same topspeed as when it was new), other people on the internet can get the same power too so since internet said so it must be true for everyone else (echo chamber confirmation bias at play here)

This post has been edited by terradrive: Jan 21 2024, 10:33 AM

thats not a opinion, its just you wanna jibe on others just like most here

whatever makes you happy my friend as long make you feel big

moving along

asking you to show what you claimed as "power escape" is "makes me feel big"

okie

you get alot of potential to be a politician with those taichi skills bro

also i edited my last post, go read it back

This post has been edited by terradrive: Jan 21 2024, 10:37 AM

so much fun in this forum you can claim anything you want, if somebody questions you, just claim they are doing it because it makes them feel big without answering their question on your claimed statement, topkek

page 5 already got ppl arguing haih...

sunday ppl, it is sunday wei

lunch mau makan apa?

buy ev once got nuclear powered battery la.. 10 years no need to charge..

I had some rechargeable lead acid batteries. Lasted for only 2 years tops.

I salute you for being an early adopter

asking simple things only, what does he meant by power escape by criteria and can he show it, but he dunwan to answer what he claims wut

one can opt to walk away

sunday lah. have fun a bit

sure if it was topics about other field, but engines are my my chosen fyp project in engineering so i gets irked too much when there are some bullshitting on it.

This post has been edited by terradrive: Jan 21 2024, 11:19 AM

ok carry on with your mission

you say confirmation bias..but in f1 or racing in general wear out engine slower lap times and failing

F1 engine still its a engine just like in your car..uses the same fuel do the same thing the same rule apply which is wear and tear just a in F1 it wear a thousand times faster but a F1 engine is very specialized and they lose power so what to a road car engine driving over the years..can the engine in your car still fresh after years of using?

f1 engines aren't the same as normal car engines bro, even the tolerance is totally different. parts in f1 engine are so tight it needed to be warmed up by a heater before it can be started. normal car engines don't have tolerances as that, and the materials used is not the same grade too

of course i'm taking about confirmation bias, there's people testing their 10-20 yers old car on dyno which has the same hp as the car when it's new (manufacturer claimed), there's also old ferraris engine tested on dyno tested to lose like half the power. so which conclusion is correct? are you going to take the ferrari's case and claim that as power escape? that's what we refer to confirmation bias

so that's also why i asked you, how do you quantify as power escapr since you claimed that you feel it on your kancil, picanto and jazz? can you answer me now?

like i say still a engine that it cant escape from wear and tear no matter what or how they are made of

the kancil is probably the best example, 225K KM still on ori gearbox and engine..chnage oil every 5K km change gearbox oil every 40K km..even step on loud pedal it makes so much noise but going from 20 to 50km/h takes a little more time these days..20 to 50km/h its very quick back in the days..its even amazing back then driving in city/town with that pickup speed..so what now? my leg gone soft? from 1999 till now the kancil is still as good as it use to be while im the one wearing out? or like you say im just bias its just in head car is slower lol

but a car so old claim it doesnt loses some horsie i dont believe it