which one would you choose and why ?

almera kuro edition looks damn nice

but 1.0 turbo vs 1.5 turbo.. hmm..

S70 lor, Look at the small screen also no stim.

s70 la... the almera 1.0 engine... maigawd

Axia turbo

your last sentence should answer your question

take away the turbo, do you want a 1.0L car or 1.5L car

bigger engine always gives more power

take whichever that has 4 cylinders la

U want 150ps/226nm torque or 74ps/152nm torque, u want jepunis or ̶c̶h̶a̶i̶n̶a̶ merehsia car, u want b segment or c segment car

Take bigger torque maa...

Why almera?

Shouldn't it be honda shitty vs s70?

If you ask me, the real most value Japanese spec car in Malaysia B-Segment Japanese should be Almera.
They have the best design (Interior & exterior) safety & engine technology (1.0T) available compare to other 2 (Vios/City) which is still 1.5 N/A engine.
I long time boikot Honda as they still keep the 1.0T only for certain market and not for us, in Thailand they got 1.0T engine for City which is more powerful.
The only sad thing is many people still scare with the Jatco CVT gearbox and also the brand distributor/dealer (Tan Chong Motors). If it is direct from Nissan, maybe different stories.

First understand your need.

Almera 1.0T - Pure City car
Pro - Best Exterior & Interior design, a lot of safety features, very good fuel consumption. (Heard a lot of good about this from actual owners)
Con - due to 3 cylinder engine design, engine mounting might need to replace frequently (Heard some already claim new engine mountings under warranty after 1~2 years of usage) some owners complain of excessive vibration.

Proton S70 - B-Segment but market as C-Segment
Pro - Bigger engine 1.5T & DCT combo. Should be suitable for balik kampung or highway cruiser. A lot of accessories.
Con - Expect higher fuel consumption when compare to Almera due to bigger engine & power. Spare part availability.

If you want a car purely for City usage, i will still propose Almera.
S70 is kinda near to C-Segment which can be use for highway/balik kampung purpose.
If want big bang of your money get Proton.
If want nice design, fuel savings and dont worry about spare parts get the Almera. (Japanese cars mostly can get half-cuts/spare parts/mod easily)

This post has been edited by littlefire: Jan 9 2024, 09:44 AM

Bot use 3 pot laa. But dct more rubost for heavy leg

TS must be looking at the TURBO engine rather than space, looks, features, etc. Because the other 2 cars VIOS & CITY is not mentioned.

If that is the case, the S70 is a no brainer. Cheaper and more powerful.

actually not keen to vios due to daihatsu scandal and kenot flip back seat
city also coz already use jazz.

S70, especially if TS is not going to use all the safety tech.

For me I particularly like BSM

Not so like - LKA, 360 deg cam

Dislike - panoramic sunroof

Service cost for Almera like shitttttttt....

Japan vs China

This post has been edited by optprime: Jan 10 2024, 11:58 AM

Hi. Someone who's actually driven an N18-generation Almera here.

Proton being Proton, the S70 will definitely offer unbeatable bang-for-buck for the money. You get a more powerful 1.5L turbocharged powertrain and it's jam-packed with modern features and kit, wrapped up in its C-segment positioning (though I hear some reviews say its more cramped than the dimensions suggest). You do lose out on Android Auto and Apple CarPlay though, if that matters to you. I can't comment on how it actually feels or drives because I've not gotten my hands on one.

With the current generation Almera, the turbocharged 1.0L mill is no slouch, either, but of course it's not going to be able to compete with a 1.5L turbo engine, though fuel economy is naturally much better on the Almera. It still feels deceptively quick (just don't expect it to be sports car-fast) and you're never really left wanting for more power (unless you're one of those hot-blooded boy racer types flooring it all the time). Acceleration feels effortless, and this is amplified by how well-damped the cabin is, so you barely hear the engine at all except under very hard acceleration. Stock tyres are surprisingly wide 205/55 R16 Continental UC6, I'd say it handles pretty well even in the wet. Perceived quality is surprisingly rock-solid - even the signal stalks feel considerably much better than the current range of B-segment Hondas. Nissan's Zero Gravity seats have also finally trickled down to their more mass market models - the front seats are extremely comfortable and arguably best in class. Also, previously the head unit only supported Apple CarPlay but ETCM recently added Android Auto last August. Haven't had any issues with the engine mounting (yet) but behind the wheel, you probably wouldn't notice it's a 3-cylinder. Despite what the engine displacement suggests, it's also a pretty comfortable highway cruiser.

One thing I'll say about ETCM though is that their marketing has been a huge letdown. They're given a good product but all they seem to be doing is pushing their Tomei bodykit (in the past) and now this Kuro edition. I'm not sure if pointless bodykit packages are what they found to be effective at pulling in their target audience, but even practical additions like the recent inclusion of Android Auto (unavailable previously) have mostly flown under the radar.

This post has been edited by _Zephyre_: Jan 10 2024, 12:05 PM

thanks . how is the service and after sales?

would you recommend this car to others?

feels like ETCM is slowly abandoning Nissan, they're revving up for GAC

A bit too early to tell in terms of service and aftersales stuff. I'd say it's pretty average.

As far as recommending it goes, it really depends on what you're looking for in a car. The Japanese B-segment isn't particularly differentiated, but the Almera definitely stands out from the back by virtue of packing a tiny engine with forced induction instead of the usual normally aspirated 1.5L ones - and it definitely has a lot more character. Of course there are some things the usual competitors do better, e.g., interior space and packaging in the City, the overall value proposition of the S70, etc.

Hi bro,

This is a very simple question to answer:

NISSAN TC
TC is trying very hard to not to sell Nissan car, as i did not see any effort for them to sell.
To me, TC management is doing all they can to abandoning Nissan lol.

PROTON
Proton new management is trying very hard to sell and upscale their car, pushing more and more model that come with more and more new modern features.
To me, Proton management is doing all they can to reviving Proton lol.

Now, ask yourself, which one will you buy ??

I personally used N16 Sentra before ETCM then was good for warranty, then moved to Preve had horrible aftersales then now driving N18 quite happy for most part as ride is comfy , quiet and smooth.

Btw N18 engine boring process is similar to GTR as they use diamond and inject iron mould to sleeve so I feel is nice personally.

This post has been edited by lordgamer3: Jan 11 2024, 11:58 AM

100ps vs 150ps yo. no brainer selection liao. anyone with sane mind already know which one to pick.

power got huge difference yo.

not everyone is looking for power yo. some people just wanna comfort and peace of mind.

S70 has ADAS while Almera does not

rear drum brakes Vs 4 disc brakes

though it's 1.1 tonnes vs 1.3 tonnes

Actually it's depend on the usage priority
> Looks
> Fuel Consumption
> Maintenance for next 10 years (forecast longer, better than sorry)
> Cabin comfort, as you spend over hundred of hours inside over the periods
> Usage, try to propose highway / city drive, the easiest way is take the total travelled mileage, then split into both / total mileage per fuel, average will do
> Capacity, I believe it's not that huge differences between 2

Both cars are not hard to maintain as S70 parts and workshops will be available over the time like X70 case.

Brand experience, me personally not favor ETCM as a ex Grand Livina owner, but its indeed a good car. No complaint on the build except lower arm lembek thus easy to break.

It's better to have a test drive on both in the same day so that you can compare on the spot. Myself even test drive more than 1 unit for the same model to ensure the driving experience is match with each others.

agree yo, not everyone want power. some will prioritize fuel consumption. almera will definitely more fuel efficient.

and comfort is subjective. while peace of mind, fuh, tan chong, better think twice. really nightmare see them handle old nissan model.

s70

Read there are problem with the 1.0 Viarable Compression turbo engine.

HR10DET surprisingly got good reputation as a good engine.

That is other type of engine, not the one Almera is using.
This engine usually use on Infinity models, Nissan X-Trail & Qashqai and knew as KR engine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_KR_engine

No matter how hard Proton sell their car spare parts, it will still come down to 1 - China parts & lack of aftermarket support. (This also apply to other China manufacturer also)

Japanese cars will always an advantage in our market, more aftermarket parts from half-cut, tuner mod shop, new original, OEM & ciplak parts from Thailand/China/Japan.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Jan 12 2024, 06:29 PM

BTW, Almera got the most standard (all variants) safety features in same B-Segment.
It is knew as NISSAN INTELLIGENT MOBILITY for equivalent tech.

https://nissan.com.my/allnewnissanalmera/ni...igent-mobility/

This post has been edited by littlefire: Jan 13 2024, 01:44 PM

Usually I won't bother about the Almera because of the ugly looks. However, this evening when driving on the roads going out for dinner with the family, I saw a vehicle from a distance which looked rather elegant but didn't manage to see the badge. As I drove closer I noticed it's an Almera but a different looking one. It looks unique and one of a kind, all grey or black and the rims are also in black. For once I thought this version of the Almera looks nice, elegant and special.

When I went to the Nissan website later, I realised there's now a Kuro version of the Almera with a RM8k add on which will turn everything to black front grille cladding, black 16" alloy rims, black boot lid spoiler and Tomei aero kit.

If I were to pick between the Proton S70 and regular Nissan Almera, it would be the S70 because my main priority has always been the exterior looks, first and foremost. Although a vehicle may have impressive performance on paper, if it looks ugly I won't bother looking at it. With the new Almera black edition, my preference is now this Almera Kuro mainly for looks, apart from the reliability, comfort, quietness (good nvh) and performance. Based on my 5 year experience with Nissan Sylphy I can vouch for the reliability and performance with zero issues throughout the ownership until I sold the car.

Of course if people look at acceleration power, handling and value for money (cheapest 1.5 turbo with close to C segment size) then maybe the S70 will be a better choice but for people who look for other things such as refinement in the drive, nvh or smooth transmission and proven little to zero reliability issues, the Almera is a better choice although it's ugly in my book(there will be others who find it beautiful so to each his own). To me the new improved looks of the Almera Kuro black edition wins it as I don't look at power too much these days. When I owned the Proton Preve Turbo, it's also powerful with good handling but the refinement is poor with some serious rattling sound inside the cabin after 2 years with loud and unrefined engine sound during acceleration with lag. The gearbox broke after 2+ years and luckily was replaced during warranty period. Some other parts broke too and was replaced either under warranty or out of warranty. With the Nissan Sylphy, nothing breaks after more than 5 years, with almost zero rattling sound although the noise got a bit more after 4 years.

This post has been edited by SportyHandling: Jan 13 2024, 10:24 PM

After sales warranty under TCM? How was it nowadays?

This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Jan 14 2024, 04:31 PM

I've watched some YouTube videos of the Almera 1.0 Turbo. The stop speed of the vehicle is 190km/h, accelerating up to 170km/h with ease and comments that cruising at 140km/h feels like 110km/h. In this sense I believe it's more than sufficient for highway drive instead of city drive.

The new Kuro all-black surely adds more elegance to the Almera, and to me it looks more beautiful than the S70. In terms of reliability the S70 is yet to be proven but my pick is surely the Nissan being more reliable.

As for the more powerful engine of the Proton, I recall watching a video on YouTube of the reviewer saying "nak laju-laju sangat pergi mana". The Almera also kill 2 birds with one stone having low fuel consumption and also decent power with the 1.0 Turbo engine. I would expect the fuel consumption of the S70 to be higher although it may accelerate quicker and hit a top speed of 200 or 230km/h. Reliability and cost of maintenance also remain a question mark.

The advantages of establishment over few decades vs a relatively new (less than 10yo Proton "China")

Like I said, parts and aftermarkets stuffs will be available over the time, it is not an overnight story, to me it's good enough that the manufacturer vowed to solve parts issue, regardless what happens to the original country, it's depend on consumer want to bite it or not.

Hope that the TS can made up his mind and get a suitable ride for himself

The after sales and parts story will be the headline for them until 2030. The reality only during MCO/Covid time the parts lacking issues. But again its Proton, they emphasize more. All other brand affected during mco

Almera exterior is better than vios and city imo but the interior is the dealbreaker. ugly and it feels so dated. Also the selling price is not attractive enough

This post has been edited by iOrange: Jan 15 2024, 11:08 AM

Yes, But compared to S70, almera does not have active cruise control, or any passive cruise control at all

Please noted that:
almera service every 7K
S70 service every 10k

almera so cheap?

They have free service every alternate time, so basically half price service for first 5 years

I'm not so sure about the numbers in the table but even though it's estimated, I guess it won't be too far off. Based on my experience with Proton Preve Turbo and Nissan Sylphy, I was actually surprised that the cost of maintenance of the Nissan Sylphy 2.0 is actually lower than the Proton Preve 1.6 Turbo. The service intervals for both vehicles are the same at 5,000km mileage or 6 months whichever comes first.

The major service of the Proton Preve Turbo comes up to RM1.6k+ if I'm not mistaken, while the Nissan Sylphy's services were almost always lower than the Proton, minor service RM300+ while major service around RM1k+/-.

I'm not sure about the new Almera but Nissan cars Sylphy and Teana have always been well known for superior NVH, perhaps on par with Toyota equivalents or better, much better than the rest including Honda. If one desires a comfortable and quiet drive with low noise from the traffic, engine or road and with minimal rattling sound inside the cabin, Nissan is usually the best choice. As the Nissan(Sylphy) excel in comfort and quietness, they fall short in handling so there's a trade off. The (new) Almera is in a different category so I'm not sure how close it is to the Sylphy or Teana's nvh levels.

The new Almera being a 1.0 litre turbo should be fuel efficient too. I believe the low reception is people are not willing to pay a high price of RM80k-90k+ for a 1.0 litre engine vehicle although the advantages may outweigh the weaknesses, apart from other reasons as mentioned earlier on this thread.

Numbers are taken from PT so they are accurate. Mainly because TC Malaysia gives free servicing every alt service. The sales of the Almera is bad because it is expensive and the interior frankly is lousy for the price. The Vios is way better nowadays and the S70 is in another league entirely. NVH too is no match for S70. However I can quite confidently say as an owner of X70 that the after sales won't be as good as Japanese brands. Not much has changed since you bought your Preve, in fact it probably has gotten worse because of the parts issues.

In fact, the S70 reminds me a lot about the Preve. It was cheaper than the B segment Japs, more powerful turbo engine, better NVH, more spacious, higher quality interior compared to the old Almera and Vios. S70 is now way more expensive that Preve used to be but still the premise remains. Again however, long term ownership is quite a different story, as most Preve owners will attest to. Remains to be seen how the S70 will turn out.

I hope the S70 will be a different story and I wish Proton well. It's surely something that remains to be seen, a gamble for potential or future owners who have placed booking for the car. My experience with the Preve Turbo was not a good one. Too many horror stories that I won't post here since it's not relevant as the S70 is an all new model from Proton/Geely collaboration. However, based on your post above I presume you have test driven the S70, and I presume the nvh and performance of the transmission are a huge departure from the punch cvt and turbo engine in the Preve. Time will tell if the quality of the S70 is good, with regards to not showing serious rattling sound inside the cabin or reduced nvh quality or any breakdowns or parts of plastic piece from the gear knob falling off like my Preve. The small little things with fit and finish. The Preve Turbo was only good within the first year or so as the quality dropped rapidly approaching 2 years and then above.

The Proton Preve Turbo was the cheapest car with the best performance during the time it was launched at RM69k, so it sold like hot cakes. Yes, it's the same now with S70.

The exterior of the new Almera Kuro in grey and black looks better than the Vios to me. Interior-wise the two tone dashboard of the Almera looks quite good, but the door panels and 2-tone leather seats look a little cheap from the photos.

This post has been edited by SportyHandling: Jan 15 2024, 07:56 PM

My X70 is having problems with sounds from the suspension (unsolved after one year at the SC and after changing the whole steering rack). The rubber seal parts on the rear boot are already worn and rotten from the sun. The engine mountings had to be changed after just 3 years, costs a bomb too RM1800.

So the Proton/Geely models aren't trouble free.

Almera exterior looks good but the interior just isn't up to par with its rivals. Design feels really outdated now even if it's just barely 3 years old.

Wow, looks like engine mountings in the X70 cost more than the ones in the Ford Focus, surprisingly as I thought Ford parts already cost a bomb ( ford focus new steering rack RM9.8k). Sorry to hear about the problems with your X70. I guess S70 will be the same and time will tell.

My Nissan Sylphy, absolutely no issues from the day I bought the car until the day I sold it at 5+ years. The only small issue I had was wind sound from the side windscreen which was rectified easily at the service centre. Sometimes people just look at performance only but reliability and cost of spare parts and maintenance are also a huge factor. If one has the patience to do frequent visits to rectify issues with the car and has no issue spending the money to replace faulty parts(out of 3 year warranty period), then that's a different story..

And the Nissan Sylphy is really quiet and no rattling sound within the first 3 years, very comfortable drive. Just some minor rattling after 5 years which is acceptable. It's too bad there are no more Sylphy and Teana replacement models from Tan Chong.

This post has been edited by SportyHandling: Jan 15 2024, 08:15 PM

Yes, it is like repeating the history of Proton Preve Turbo. Now need to see how long it will last.

as a preve owner , can you share a bit about the ownership?

I want to consider a proton but really think twice about when ppl say parts issue/ etc. as much as how attractive the car is, at the end of the day i just wanted a reliable car for day to day commute.

Those campro based model is just not ok in overall in term of quality, parts selection, gap, FC, part quality etc.

My old company had about 8 Preve CFE and 6 Waja CPS, and after many years, the Waja CPS works better, last longer etc. HU and meter screen k.o already on all Preve with cloudy screen. Radiator fan motor module kiock for most Preve non on waja, cost fortune to solve that at SC. This Preve is 1st batch of Proton, cw laggy as F CVT first software, it even lag vs old Merz pedal. Luckily got TCU update but again this Punch CVT is just junk overall. Last this Preve, Iriz era, all the button inside lack of tactile like feel really cheap, this proton dont know how to make?

Those drawback is not found on Geely Proton model, especially it not use CVT is a welcoming features

It's not only the punch CVT but the gear knob of the Proton Preve is junk. The plastic piece of the gear knob fell off not only once but 2 or 3 times even after it was fixed at the Proton service centre. I have to temporarily use a rubber band to tie the plastic piece to the gear knob of the vehicle before I have time to send the car to the SC to get it fixed. It's just horrible. I had a picture of the gear knob with the rubber band tied to it as a temporary fix posted on the Proton Preve thread when I owned it, about 6 or 7 years ago. I also found the gear shifting feel of the Preve to be the same as a toy car. I made this same comment many years ago. When you shift the gear knob from P to D, or D to R for example, the gear knob feels very light and hollow. Sometimes I feel like the whole gear knob is going to break into 2 pieces if you put too much force in it as it really feels poor in the hands when you shift it around the gears.

All these small details affect the overall quality and refinement of the Preve. I presume the S70 is a completely different car with much improved fit and finish inside the cabin. But reliability-wise, judging from the experience of X70 users like Gargamel I suppose time will tell if it will receive the same fate.

ps. the CVT gearbox of my Preve Turbo was found to be damaged when it was less than 3 years old. Luckily still under warranty replaced at the service centre free of charge. The vehicle was at the service centre for about a week when they replaced the gearbox and I need to go find a temporary car to drive to work which was a hassle.

This post has been edited by SportyHandling: Jan 16 2024, 11:09 AM

Engine mounting on CKD X70 cost rm1.4k outside and was told with a better quality materials. If CBU cost rm1.1k. This is much cheaper than Honda Accord engine mounting at rm3k at SC, which I changed outside for rm1.6k including installation.

For proton, i had great warranty claim at Kelana Jaya SC. Claimed brake rotors without any questions there.

Rubber part iiwu, will proceed outside workshop

Cannot proceed outside, will void warranty. They will check

I remember one time it did not switch off the headlights even engine is off. Solution, to knock hard on the dashboard then only it is ok. Wish proton retired all the Campro based engine model asap cz junk quality and make owner rage.

Warranty for mounting is 3 years or 60k km. Hit that? Just go outside instead spend fortune at SC

They will check the markings on the parts and void the whole 5 year warranty. You cannot get Proton genuine parts for X series from outside, they all buy from Geely China without Proton logo. SC will check this I have confirmed this with various SC and HQ.

Rubber seals dried up in X70. X70 owner group also complaining about gearbox issues in CBU but touch wood mine is fine till now.

Yeah, all gearbox also got issues is just how the owner & manufacturer take care of it. Just as i want to feedback that DSG also got a lot of complaints from around forums & proton groups also.

Active cruise control maybe useful. But passive cruise control near useless in msia.

Speed limit 110kmh. Every car driving at every speed but 110kmh.

After spotting a nice looking Almera Kuro version earlier last week which had piqued my interested a little, I investigated further on the vehicle. Everything looks good until I noticed a rather huge minus point. The vehicle does not come with powered seats, not even for the driver. All manual adjustments for the front seats.

Not sure why need powered seats, all my rides only adjust 1 time and never touch again. Unless you share your ride to different person a lot, if not the powered seats seems not practical. Even sliding up and down also slower compare to manual operated, until today i still prefer manual over powered seats.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Jan 17 2024, 04:14 PM

Pls la.... Nissan already die with Jakco CVT.. .focus on S70 C segment better...

Hence active cruise control

Everyone is different. Even though the car may be used by one person only, I find powered seats to be useful. Perhaps I'm spoiled by the Ford Focus where both front seats come with powered seats. I occasionally adjust the position of the seats, front and back, and the backrest inclined at various angles or upright. Sometimes when I'm at the traffic lights, I will put the seat inclined to rest if I have a bad headache, and when the cars start moving I'll get the seat straight up by the push of the button. Very easy and convenient. Of course manual adjustments will work too but it's just more work to adjust to the optimal position. With powered seats, the adjustments are minute so you can get to the desired position accurately and easily. With manual adjustments the positions of the seat are preset in say 4 or 5 places so you get less play.

If the car is used by 2 persons or more, occasionally if not regularly, the powered seats will be more useful. If it's older folks, it will be even more useful. In my case the vehicle will be mostly used by 2 persons.

There are people who pay a lot of emphasis on 360 degrees parking camera, auto cruise, paddle shifters and some advanced safely features but they are all not important to me. In the end it depends on the criteria of the individual on what he/she regards as important. Everyone is different and people have the choice to go with whatever that is appealing to them. If your ask me, I wouldn't pick the Proton S70 even though it is packed with many features and have a more powerful to engine to hit higher top speed or whatever. And I would go with Toyota over Honda anytime. It's good to have options.

YouTube Nissan CVT will make horrors video. That's why lack of Nissan car odr. X-Rail was regular odr last time but the cvt make all running away. Nissan still selling this old car

HM? Better look around for user complaining nowadays

to me powered seats is only really useful if it comes with easy access function as well (seats will move backwards and steering will move away after you turn off the car for easy exit and entry)

other than that I dont see a difference with manual seat except powered seat can have memory function as well which is good for those who shares their car a lot

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Jan 17 2024, 11:17 PM

ya man... only ACC useful, regular cruise control maybe can only use on long empty stretch like LPT.

long time back, i wanted a car with cruise control for my regular weekly long distance commute, when finally got a car with regular cruise control
the traffic increased so much that it's useless already.

The Jatco CVT gearbox issues already improved over the years and local Nissan already include CVT oil change earlier within 60~80k range compare to last time only do after 80~100k. All these help reduce the warranty claims and gearbox issue, if you drive it like a racer & high-rev a lot than the Almera is not suitable, better get Mazda 2 with 6AT gearbox. Proton DCT gearbox until today also got issues, X50/X70 owners complaining of vibration or gear switching not smooth for certain gears also. If you ask me, the most stable gearbox is still the normal AT gearbox.

Ya bro, those lower range car usually where got easy access function. Only those higher more expensive range cars, SUV only got.
The rest mostly are memory function only which is good for those which switch different drivers a lot, thus why after owning and driven few cars i felt a lot of these accessories really waste of money if you drive alone.

only those X70 CBU had a big issues with GB, claiming Torque Converter 3 times. the CKD X70 DCT as well as X50, not much issue if check on both FB group. Nissan CVT, just search YouTube for abroad problems faced by it.

For anyone who is interested, there is currently promotion for Nissan Almera Kuro black edition. Some photos forwarded to me by the sales guy. These are the new glacier grey finish for the Kuro which is different from the old Dark metal finish:-








The old dark metal finish:-

indeed the glacier gray looks very nice

Almera's acceleration power is better than Toyota Vios though.

Looks pretty much identical to Nardo Grey. The thing about Nardo grey is that you might feel the colour code to be dated sooner than later.

Yes, same thoughts and that was the reason it got me interested as apart from the new glacier grey finish, the Kuro black front grille add-on made it look much better as the original silver front grille didn't look good to me. I didn't look at the Almera all this while as it does not look good but this new Kuro version with glacier grey finish now looks appealing to me.

Further investigation revealed that there is a new Almera 2024 version already launched in Thailand and Philippines lately, or maybe a year ago. It's basically a facelift with a new front grille and minor changes in the interior (blue-coloured leather at the dashboard replacing the beige coloured one, all black leather seats) and some additional features such as tyre pressure monitoring system. Not sure when it will be launched here, if it ever gets to Malaysia.

Not sure about Nardo grey but it looks a bit like the old grey colour on my Nissan Sylphy 2.0. This glacier grey is slightly lighter in the shade than the grey of my old Nissan Sylphy.

The metal grey on the current Almera doesn't look too good.

The other plus point as some might have known is that the maintenance cost of Nissan vehicles is very low, even when compared to Proton which is actually higher with some models. There's also 5 times free service bundled in as well. When I spoke to the Nissan sales guy on the phone, he told me it is worth it to consider a Nissan car as the servicing cost of Nissan is very low. I told him I knew that already being an ex-owner of the Nissan Sylphy more than 10 years ago.

Can expect minor services to be in the range of RM300-400+, maybe slightly higher now due to inflation and also higher SST.

Bodo pun tau s70 is da best la

I missed this post. Yes, it's really cheap. When I spoke to the Nissan sales guy on the phone, he brought up the low maintenance cost of the Nissan being the main selling point of the car. I told him I knew that already being an ex-Nissan owner.

When I owned the Nissan Sylphy 2.0, bearing in mind a C-segment 2.0-litre vehicle, the minor service came up to around RM300+ to 400 only. Very cheap. I was flabbergasted that the Proton Preve Turbo's maintenance costs much higher than the Sylphy, with the major service touching RM1.6k+ apart from the vehicle coming with so many quality probelms as mentioned earlier while the Nissan stayed absolutely problem free for 5+ years.

It is likely I won't own a Honda in my lifetime as the brand has been repeatedly scratched off my list, perennially, having sat in various City, Civic and Accords throughout the years some in long distance journeys outstation. I am aware of the complaints as my ex-colleagues, in fact all of them who owned the Honda City only have bad things to say about the car, nothing good. One of them went to Mazda CX-5 already.

See those youtube video dont know how long already, i got friends working in Nissan Service center they feedback to me the claims for CVT gearbox already drop over the years after they pull in earlier for CVT oil change. You better ask those who work in actual place and not those outdated videos.

If you ask my Nissan friend, now they laugh on Honda CVT gearbox which the belt can shattered.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Jan 18 2024, 01:42 PM

Yep can vouch for Preve expensive parts but my Preve started being problematic on the 8th year but not engine gb related . More like radiator housing hose mounting and suspension components. When in good shape it's low end torque and power is nice

This post has been edited by lordgamer3: Jan 18 2024, 05:17 PM

Got passive cruise control for VLT variant

Fortunately most if not all the parts on my Preve Turbo were claimed under warranty, if my memory does not fail me. The OCH hose was a recall and they changed in free of charge. Can't remember what else they changed under warranty apart from the gearbox and gear knob.

I found the thread of the gear knob which fell off just after 1 year. They first used glue to stick back the plastic piece but after it came off again they replaced the whole gear knob. The car was sold in 2019.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...preve+gear+knob

Forgot to mention, low end torque and power of the Preve Turbo are good but throttle response and turbo lag are not good. The vehicle is slow to respond to throttle action at any speed or standstill as there is a lag. With other cars, the lag is minimal and more instantaneous. When you step on the pedal, the car will surge forward instantaneously or with minimal lag as you feel the power coming in, especially with Ford Focus thanks to the dual clutch transmission. With the Preve Turbo, there is around 1 second to 1.5s from the time you step on the pedal before you feel the power coming in and the car going forward, combined with loud engine roar. WIth other cars the engine sound is more muted with a much refined and pleasant engine sound. The Preve's engine sound during acceleration is rough and loud.

This post has been edited by SportyHandling: Jan 19 2024, 07:33 AM

Guess I am getting old and my memory isn't as good as it used to be. It's not only the plastic piece on the gear knob that fell off on my Preve Turbo but the whole gear knob came off when I was changing gears. Could you believe it. Dangerous situation and fortunately it only happened when I was parking the car. I still have the photos as they are in the complaint email sent to Proton.

Believe it or not Corolla Cross also have this issue now but I believe its an isolated case lah. Saw it in owners group the other day

I believe gear knob fall out is previous gen Honda CRV, that make a great fuzz.