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loserguy
post Jan 3 2024, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jan 3 2024, 10:11 PM)
To me it is simple. If uptake is low, using stick will cost them votes. MPs and Aduns gona bash him for giving them so much work to do in helping people fill that thing. If uptake is high, also no point if data is unverified and/or subjected to too much changes i.e. gig economy where got certainty one. In the end, thd benefit is likely to turn negative and no one wants to carry a useless app. Mysejahtera was extremely useful but look at it now. So yea.
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mysejahtera is just a one trick pony. overglorified pak guard log book.

this one is much bigger. think health care records, JPJ, land office, school kids.

if done right, there are huge benefits for the country. a bit big brother, but i believe the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.
loserguy
post Jan 3 2024, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jan 3 2024, 10:18 PM)
Sure, if raykat maturity is there. And trust. If we have both, then padu works. It is too big a project to pull off meaningfully if both that ingredient is not there yet.
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we need to start somewhere, i think this is a good start. and we have a lot of catch up to do compared to other countries.

a lot of that info, the gomen already has. but yeah, lapizi needs to do more, security wise to earn raykat trust.
loserguy
post Jan 3 2024, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(jackbanner @ Jan 3 2024, 10:20 PM)
What are the requirements?
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just IC number, phone number and email address

eKYC need IC and phone for selfie
loserguy
post Jan 3 2024, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jan 3 2024, 10:38 PM)
If you read the comments from various sites, urban old farts are all at a loss. How about rempits? Semi literates? Rural folks?

So lapuji gona deny them all subsidies when they dont sign up? And they are the biggest vote bank. Do you think bangnon will save this app at the expense of all these?

Lapuji is formulaman, but not so a practicalman.
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big picture for them right now is subsidy rationalization

some subsidies are going bye bye soon, no running away. think of this database as a way of applying for some extra cash to replace those subsidies. ADUN need to turun padang for those in the rural areas.

some of my friends are not registering too lol.

edit: donno wan email for wat, many old guys don't have email one

This post has been edited by loserguy: Jan 3 2024, 10:45 PM
loserguy
post Jan 3 2024, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(hirano @ Jan 3 2024, 11:09 PM)
do they request for proof of financial commitment? if i simply hentam my monthly groceries is 2k?
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i think only got loans and insurance
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post Jan 3 2024, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Jan 3 2024, 11:24 PM)
Let's forget the cybersecurity issues for a minute.

Can someone explain to me how this thing is going to help these people?
* elderly who don't know about the internet
* those with low levels of education, and don;t use the internet
* hawker stall holder ( small businesses) who don't drive a Mercedes
* part time/casual worker
* rural people who don't have internet coverage

Hint: the appropriate solution is not a high-tech one. It needs to be a PRACTICAL one.

And Rafizi is fkcking it up big time.
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* elderly who don't know about the internet
* those with low levels of education, and don;t use the internet
* rural people who don't have internet coverage
-- probably need ADUN or local grassroots to be involved here

* hawker stall holder ( small businesses) who don't drive a Mercedes
-- if underdeclare nanti LHDN officer camping in front of the stall kira your daily customers baru tau lol

* part time/casual worker
-- same like filing income tax lor, no EA form just fill in last 12 months total income then divide by 12. there is a self employed income section.
loserguy
post Jan 3 2024, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Jan 3 2024, 11:43 PM)
Need ADUN to explain?

FAIL big time.
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same like BRIM, STR, and whatever aid before this.

ADUN and their people were the ones helping a lot of my older friends to register.

edit: do you have any suggestions that would work better?

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post Jan 4 2024, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Jan 4 2024, 12:00 AM)
You talk rubbish. Those previous aids fixed amounts paid directly and its done.

This one, the internet is on fire.
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ok, if you insist
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post Jan 4 2024, 07:22 AM

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QUOTE(lkhnha2021 @ Jan 4 2024, 06:58 AM)
But is this not a failure of the system itself?

I've never see other system that some other random people can "chup" an account using my IC
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Yes should have done this after mydigitalid rollout.
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post Jan 4 2024, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(viktorherald @ Jan 4 2024, 03:17 PM)
this is not trivial bug... workflow also not streamlined then release until OKM need to do a PSR for a SUBSTANDARD WORKAROUND
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bad but not really that bad la, it is not even the full database, it is like a form for you to key in some stuff.

OTOH, they really should do this after rolling out mydigitalid to everyone. less headache for them, why is lapiji rushing this through?

QUOTE(yvliew @ Jan 4 2024, 03:20 PM)
WTF?? If it’s so easy for ppl to steal your account with IC and address.. How safe and secure is this stupid thing? WTF is this even? First come first serve? That’s not acceptable for a govt system. Just wtf???
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no la not that bad, although you can screw around with your koliks, but i don't think you can do much harm other than forcing him to jump through some hoops to do a password reset.
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post Jan 4 2024, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(kiasunkiasi @ Jan 4 2024, 03:39 PM)
nope, it's already https but still cannot link up
tried on my laptop on company internet, my residential's internet, my mobile phone over data, all cannot link up

failed rubbish
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works for me
https://www.padu.gov.my/
loserguy
post Jan 4 2024, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(mi-g @ Jan 4 2024, 04:09 PM)
its called HTTPS redirect.. or SSL redirect
if you type full URL manually of course no issue

but if you type only "padu.gov.my" in firefox, it wont be automatically redirect to https.. chrome no issue, got auto redirect
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no ah, my firefox redirect works fine, are you sure?

i even tried in incognito
loserguy
post Jan 4 2024, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(mi-g @ Jan 4 2024, 04:15 PM)
if you already have access before, sure lah no issue, your browser is keeping the cookies, even in incognito mode. try using a browser that never used to open padu.gov.my before..
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hmm u are right, no redirect on pale moon, tabs on the left are padu.gov.my

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This post has been edited by loserguy: Jan 4 2024, 04:22 PM
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post Mar 30 2024, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(glamour @ Mar 30 2024, 10:00 AM)
After few month after you register. 
All those scam call will start calling you. 
JNT
Income tax.
Kastam.
Polis. 
AmBank.
Afrika nigger

All this call will appear.
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So far ok la. Scam call also got before this. No increase (touch wood), no decrease.
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post Mar 30 2024, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(chtan @ Mar 30 2024, 09:46 AM)
Stupid online registration system don't know developed by which company. Tried numerous times but still failed to register. Not gonna register again. After all, I have never had any benefit from gov.
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Mar 30 2024, 10:07 AM)
mana transparency that was being advocate by PH?  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Developed in house by civil servants. I see a few places they set up booths to help people register. Or can try approach your local assemblyman.

 

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