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Selene Yeo
post Dec 29 2023, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(FyChai @ Dec 28 2023, 11:57 AM)
1) Hi, I would like to change new water heater, I'm confusing to choose either Joven, Alpha, Rubine or Centon. Salesman keep on approach me Alpha and said others brands not secure like Alpha.

What I concern is which DC pump more powerful cause my water pressure bit low and I going to take rain shower series.
Bathrooms with extremely low water pressure usually have issue turning on the water heaters, as most water heaters use flow switch to turn on (at minimum consistently maybe around 2 litres / minute water flow, and water heater's heating element and built-in pump might not turn on if water flow is lower than that).

But I saw CENTON has a newly launched instant water heater (Atlantis range, shown below) with a Pump Activator function, which when the button is pressed, it will manually jump starts only the built-in pump to increase water flow enough for the flow switch to turn on the water heater. I think this function should be more important for you. Here is the Shopee link if u need it - Shower Rail / Rainshower

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I suggest u to only go for rainshower instant water heater if your original water flow is already sufficient, since built-in pump, regardless of whichever brand u buy, won't cater enough water pressure for your rainshower if your original water pressure is already low.

If rainshower is a must and your bathroom's water pressure is low, I suggest u to install those external booster pump like Grundfos instead (Shopee link here).



QUOTE(FyChai @ Dec 28 2023, 11:57 AM)
2) Lets say if I take 42kw heater, do I need to change MCB to 25mA? I had read previous post which advise to use 25mA based on Suruhanjaya Tenaga's guideline, but some of them tell me 10mA is enough for that. May I know which one is correct?
Appreciate for your advise.
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QUOTE(FyChai @ Dec 28 2023, 11:17 PM)
I had read that post, inside said 25A MCB RCB, but other post said 10mA, so which one should I use? C10 or C25?
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Table above and below is taken from Suruhanjaya Tenaga's guideline. So basically for instant water heaters (common ones are from 3.6kW to 4.5kW), they will require the MCBs / RCDs to be 25A rated with 10mA sensitivity (for appliances installed in wet areas). 25A is the current rating (In), 10mA is the trip sensitivity.

In conclusion, I think u will need a 25A rated current, 10mA sensitivity, double pole (cut live and neutral) RCD. Experts, please correct me if I am wrong.

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This post has been edited by Selene Yeo: Dec 14 2024, 10:12 PM
Selene Yeo
post Dec 29 2023, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Dec 29 2023, 12:25 AM)
C16 OK for 3300W WH.
4200W WH pls run a new line (electrician required) with 6mmsq cable else you gonna burn down ur hse. Of coz salesman everything can, burn also not his place
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4.2kW instant water heater should only require 4mmsq cable, not 6mmsq cable, according to Suruhanjaya Tenaga's table above. If I am reading the table correctly.


Selene Yeo
post Dec 29 2023, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Dec 29 2023, 12:34 AM)
With the advent of fake cable and substandard cables nowadays, plus not being the installer meaning can't control the quality of cables being used, overspec is better. It doesn't cost much more.
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A good reminder to always go for good quality cables, eg. like Fajar cables here - Shopee / Lazada

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