Seems like the boycott calls for companies that allegedly supported the Israeli government and their invasion on Gaza is still on going.
But let's put all of that aside (let's look at this from a neutral standpoint) and focus on 1 particular point.
How do we know whether the company REALLY did support the Israel via profit/donation and etc?

I mean, like McD has been the target of boycott, with the masses calling for boycott because McD Malaysia is allegedly supporting Israel.
So, this is people saying McD support Israel.
But McD Malaysia also did issue statement that they are 100% muslim owned entity, and did not support Israel.
So, how do we know which one is truth?

[Hype] 100% muslim owned entity McDonalds Malaysia denies support for Israel

In the link, also there is some interesting take.
Seems like, declaring no support for Israel, doesn't really mean much to Malaysians as well, since they say, McD didn't say they support Palestine, thus they are somewhat an eligible target for boycott?

Side question:
How do we categorize things?
is it:
A. Support Palestine v Neutral/Indifference v Support Israel
OR
B. Support Palestine v dan lain-lain (means support Israel)

Starbucks is another one entity that seems to be caught in crossfire.
Some party (in US) used Starbucks logo to profess support for Israel.
Then, naturally, Starbucks will deny that (because as a business, it's better to stay neutral).
And because of this denial, some pro-Israel movement, decided to boycott Starbucks (in US), because they did not show support for Israel.
on the other hand, Starbucks somehow is always linked to support for Israel (despite them saying no), and thus, pro-Palestine movement also decides to boycott Starbucks in US.

So, how do we actually know we are boycotting the right thing or not? what if suddenly someone said, XXX brand is supporting israel, we boycott. then we just buta buta boycott?

This post has been edited by tctham: Dec 28 2023, 11:03 AM

pls dont ask so much and just boikot

i wanna enjoy cheaper prices and more promos

is up to their own wish and dream

dia mau boycott hak dia kek

so there is really no logic here?
boycott ikut hati?

like, dun really care whether starbucks is supporting israel/hamas
if feel they support israel, then just boycott.

but this is not as simple as that right?
Kpop artists drink starbucks, also some netizens mata merah d.
shouldn't there be some clearer guidelines, so is easier for others to follow?

like Mercedes openly said they will donate to Israel.
Then if XXX buy Mercedes, we boycott them also?
or depends on people again?
If A buy mercedes, boycott!
if B buy mercedes, no choice la. people want buy what car, they like, we boycott the brand we want boycott, is enough d.

This post has been edited by tctham: Dec 28 2023, 10:46 AM

Jangan tanya soalan susah

Kita ada imam yang boleh kita rujuk untuk panduan hidup

nearly all restaurants suppork them

please boikot

preferably around lunch time and dinner time

https://www.reuters.com/technology/intel-ge...ant-2023-12-26/

is this boikot-able?

When it is convenient, boycott lah.
When it's not convenient, ignore.

Imagine if rokok companies support Israel. Think can boycott? No way.

I appreciate the deep thoughts you have put through

but unfortunately I'm more interested in which brand will kena boikot and will have promo like buy 1 free 1 starbucks
sry for being opportunist

This post has been edited by stinger: Dec 28 2023, 10:54 AM

>janji kepung duta USA
topkek mentality
Nearlee

I understand that if it is not convenient, then ignore.

but what about others? as in, will there be no judgment for people that actually go to these boycott-ed places?

like let's say for A, he can boycott starbucks (too expensive, and he prefer kopi o from restaurants anyway), but he cannot boycott intel / facebook. So, he focus his boycott on starbucks alone.

but then for B, he just loves starbucks (let's say he is addicted to it, or like this case [msn] k pop idols sudden love for starbucks face backlash amid palestine israel boycott, he is paid to drink it), but somehow because he not a techy person, so he can survive without devices, and decides to boycott intel instead (throw his old laptop away).

then A see B buy starbucks, he mata merah, and scold B insensitive.
Then how?

This post has been edited by tctham: Dec 28 2023, 11:05 AM

--duplicate--

This post has been edited by tctham: Dec 28 2023, 11:04 AM

Boycott boycoott, ask boycott tech stuff all banyak alasan. Can boycott ig, intel, whatever tech stuff

When someone use religion card, there needs no justification or actual proof. That’s how believer mentality operate.

One can incite ppl to do nasty things just playing religion card.

B oycott all western brands. Buty local.
ZStart by shutting down the internet.

This post has been edited by prophetjul: Dec 28 2023, 11:13 AM

Simple answer is...jangan persoal. And especially jangan tanya soalan susah.

Especially if you are non.

Please la boikott harder

Tunggu cheaper price still

Diu

👀🍷🍟🤤

Hardly see them boycott Google, Intel, Whatsapp, Apple, Boeing plane, IG, Facebook.

Soal boikot mana yang patut itu betul ke tidak tak penting, yang penting keikhlasan boikot tersebut aka Jangan tanya soalan susah

but now non (kpop artist) drink/advertise starbucks, and face backlash wo.

this sounds like those situation where
"i know this thing affects you, but it is not your (religion) issue, therefore, don't step into this" (example: concerts, cosplay, festivals, alcohol)

This post has been edited by tctham: Dec 28 2023, 11:23 AM

Most international brand esp USA support Israel.

Boikot also local business with yahudi price, because very yahudi.

Whichever company that's operating in Israel.
As they're directly paying tax to the zionist regime and in return the tax money is used to strengthen their military.
And that's how all the Palestinians got killed wasn't it? Because of their military might.
Google, Apple, FB, and whatever it is.
But hey. We boycott only what's with alternative.
Those without?? We krik krik krik.

TS, close thread pls.

Boikot no need brain involvement.

Jangan tanya soalan susah

Read here on McDonald issue and how it started

https://www.newsweek.com/mcdonalds-israel-f...t-hamas-1839523

Selective boycock ada lah ... semua mau gila glamour jer...

this one applies to:
A. whatever company that has a branch there
OR
B. whatever company that has a HQ there

Also, like for McD, they said they are bought over by Saudi Arabia’s Lionhorn Pte Ltd.
Are they still "related" to zionist regime?

Butbutbut BMF to heaven

The 'Religion Card' is the most elite of the elite cards in Malaysia by a particular puak.

You cannot question its merit, challenge it nor deny its existence.

It comes built with an 'Anti-Hypocrite' power bonus as well.

Don't question it.

yea lo,
even internally McD also behaving like separate entities.
McD Israel support, then the rest of the McD stood up and spoke against McD Israel.
So McD Malaysia is still a target of boycott or not?

Don't know. Don't care.

I support McD and all who support/aiding Israel/USA.

People react to what they heard sensational news on social media and also what they want to believe whether it is true or not.

Nowadays, if you can generate many believers on fake news thorough social, the fake news will become real

this i do not doubt. just feel people should question more on authenticity of news.
sometimes even articles can reveal the truth, but the clickbaity title of the article alone can mislead people.

I dont know man. You don't and can't reason with all these boycotters. They boycott whatever that benefits them. Including their own business. And use the Palestine issue as a reason to make more money. Like not using Milo and Nescafe in their shop. Using other cap ayam brand. But still charging the same price even though the cost to those ayam brands is way cheaper than what they're using previously.
But what i post earlier. It's not about branch or hq or anything.
They're contributing TAX directly to the zionist regime. And that tax money certainly do goes into strengthening the military that's use to oppress Palestine.

Good also boikot mcd is not healhty food.. eat healthy food la

Why stop at companies level? Expand to countries lar.
US, UK and EU pretty much supports Israel.

So bar our citizens from working in these countries lor. And boikot all firms and brands from these countries. Easy rite?

dia macam ni la. anything that linked to Israel , america and supporter of Israel

mcd , Starbucks x, nestle , unilever memang real openly give money to support Israel and America.

this is the part i don't understand
how does the tax system works.
why profits from malaysia (let's say), will pay tax to israel?
unless it's like this BIG route.
Malaysia pay royalty to McD america, McD america pay profit tax to US Gov, US Gov sends aid to Israel
thus
McD malaysia "supported" Israel.

is it like this?

pls boycott KFC, Pizzahut, Texas Chicken, Coffeebean, Nike, Addidas

so i wanna get the cheapestest price

Actually other atas pagar muslim who dont care about Palestine are force to folllow because of takut kene kutuk 99

Nanti orang kata apa?
Malulah muka kite keluar viral sebab makan mekdi
Orang tu megata, orang ni mengata
So all Malay have no choice but to follow

Good to see discussion with some research and stuffs

But B40 boikot never do their due diligence much, life already tough, find money also hard, ppl say ppl do and just follow

facebook comments
they all professional

Ada fatwa. We must remind them of this... sharing is caring

Waze

As usual
These people are selective

Even the name hot dog, root beer cannot accept. Haram haram they say. Not halal this. Not halal that.

But when it comes to cigarettes.
Krik krik krik

Yup, this I agree.
Those who wanna boycott, that's their money and I respect their decisions but what I cannot tahan is those holier than thou who peer pressure others who don't boycott.

If you boil it down, it basically comes down to supremacist ideology i.e. 'my feelings and concerns more valid than yours, because I have backing of majority and constitution. you tak suka u keluar'.

But it's a long road to get any of them to admit this.

even kpop idols like jisoo and somi got cancel for drinking starbucks. lol

i dont even know what to say anymore. seems like boycott is not malaysian thing now its a worldwide thing. they are especially vocal in twitter and tiktok 2 of the shitholes of social media

Let them be lah. Afterall it's their money and they decide who and who not to support. Who are we to question how and where they wanna spend their money??
They had their reason for it. Might not be logic or rationale to you or to me, but at the same time it makes them happy.
What irks me is they're pressuring and shaming others into following who or what they wanna boycott.
Just like those working for mcd. Kena kutuk and marah buta buta.
Or those that drink starbucks.
Even nons don't get away from it. They gonna said cina babi supporting yahudi.

Brain damaged people couldn't distinguish the difference.

pls boycott harder so nons can enjoy cheaper stuffs

ini soalan susah. boycott gang cant answer.
they just boycott whatever they believe it is.

exactly, so u have ur answer here.

they dont even ikut hati, just clouded by religious issue.

bende senang buat apa nak susah susah.
buy with delivery or asking cina/indian friend beli. period.
dosen of times heard nons in queue and talking phone with malay tanya order.

you not stand with me, then you are against me

go back to country where they still live in caves

Zconfirm no yahudi supporting

I am seeing a price hike next year and i am forecasting my financial expenses and yet you still harping on boikot thing.

Good job!!

Boycott ikut perasaan

There's really no facts here, they can't check the company's money flow.

They just follow only based on socmed post and peer pressure. If asked for poof that McD or Starbucks supports Israel nobody can provide it. Just because some ustaz said so, must follow only, if not, later kena kecam because lawan pewaris nabi. They even said that overseas also boycotting so why can't we?

My wife until now dare not to step in Starbucks, being afraid if someone took her pics and post at socmed. And I will have to go buy for her haih...

I think almost all big corporate have offices and RnD in Israel so indirectly supporting them and providing job opportunities to them paying corporate taxes …

Most ppl boikot due to peer pressure. They dont think their consequences or use phrases like "rezeki"
If the shop wholly run by certain pipu kolos down due to boikot and staff kena goreng is their own prob. Some even suggest other kompeni take over and re-hire those gorenf staff.

It is a necessity. Like Waze and internets.

Oh wai

This might help a bit with references on the company's stand

Yale School of Management

Jangan tanya soalan susah. As long as can link boikot sahaja, kan senang? Isu lain seperti banjir dan kos sara hidup boleh diketepikan.

freewill kan ada

fruit brand also sapport israel but i see many "holy" ppl,using fruit phones. so you belip those sohai?