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 My Dad's Credit Card Debt

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post Apr 3 2025, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(Azran1979 @ Apr 3 2025, 12:20 PM)
hmm good.

but you know you dont have to pay right?

furthermore there is Stature of Limitation Act, which means after 6 years no action the debt will be written off.
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I did ask around before deciding to. And yes, i decided to pay for a peace of mind. Maybe i should have ask for a full waiver instead of a reduction. 😅
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post Apr 3 2025, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(its.jay @ Apr 3 2025, 12:10 PM)
A lot. From 45K, to only 9K. At 1st they propose half. But that is still too much, so i ask if it is possible to make it lower. Then they offered 9K as full and final amount.
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That's a lot

Glad it worked out for you

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post Apr 3 2025, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Apr 3 2025, 12:19 PM)
The debt memang GG the day the father passed on.

TS wanted to pay it off as part of her moral obligations rather than legal side. Nothing wrong with that.

Banks of course happy, better than zero.
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But how does bank recover it's losses?

Is it possible that a person just Yolo and take up as much cc card debt as possible, then just gg, knowing that the debt will not be passed on?

Just wondering
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post Apr 3 2025, 01:09 PM

 
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QUOTE(GTA5 @ Apr 3 2025, 01:04 PM)
But how does bank recover it's losses?

Is it possible that a person just Yolo and take up as much cc card debt as possible, then just gg, knowing that the debt will not be passed on?

Just wondering
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The bank can go after and claim from his estate. If it's not enough, then have to write off.
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post Apr 3 2025, 01:19 PM

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TS is too honest as RM45k is nothing to these banks lol. For those wondering, yes, you have the right to ask the bank for the full waiver - worse thing they can do is request for the deceased’s estate to make a settlement but that would take some time.

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post Apr 3 2025, 01:30 PM

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TS just became water fish by paying 9k to the bank when on paper he doesn't really need to. Don't know why you did that bro when all of us have given you sound advise and you still went ahead to pay for it.

What for u open thread asking?

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post Apr 3 2025, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Apr 3 2025, 01:09 PM)
The bank can go after and claim from his estate. If it's not enough, then have to write off.
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Correct me if I’m wrong..this is absolute bs..CC is unsecured lending

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QUOTE(GTA5 @ Apr 3 2025, 01:04 PM)
But how does bank recover it's losses?

Is it possible that a person just Yolo and take up as much cc card debt as possible, then just gg, knowing that the debt will not be passed on?

Just wondering
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Those losses are immaterial..write off 30-40k against billions of profit has no impact..it’s not like daily people are dying with outstanding cc debts..

Also to add the amount of interest they gained from your outstanding debts..Net impact is still positive

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post Apr 3 2025, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Apr 3 2025, 02:30 PM)
TS just became water fish by paying 9k to the bank when on paper he doesn't really need to. Don't know why you did that bro when all of us have given you sound advise and you still went ahead to pay for it.

What for u open thread asking?
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Probably related to his faith as muslem
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QUOTE(GTA5 @ Apr 3 2025, 01:04 PM)
But how does bank recover it's losses?

Is it possible that a person just Yolo and take up as much cc card debt as possible, then just gg, knowing that the debt will not be passed on?

Just wondering
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The banks can go after the person's estate.

Technically you can YOLO and die with your debt not passed to your kins. But, that also means you wouldn't have any estates to be claimed upon, and if you don't have estates to do so, then the banks wouldn't have given you a card.


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QUOTE(youngblood29us @ Apr 3 2025, 01:53 PM)
Correct me if I’m wrong..this is absolute bs..CC is unsecured lending
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You have a misunderstanding about unsecured debt. While it's a debt without collateral, the creditor can still go after the deceased's estate.

Even if someone lent RM1k personally to the deceased, he too can go after the estate if he has proof.

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Apr 3 2025, 01:30 PM)
TS just became water fish by paying 9k to the bank when on paper he doesn't really need to. Don't know why you did that bro when all of us have given you sound advise and you still went ahead to pay for it.

What for u open thread asking?
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If bank goes through estate and claim the house?

Plus she mentioned that she did it out of peace of mind
To some, it's more valuable.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Apr 3 2025, 01:57 PM)
Probably related to his faith as muslem
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my mom is not that well either. I'm the only one with just enough income to support the family and I would rather pay it like it is my own than sell the house to pay it off


Right. Pay corpo money that they don't even want or need whilst not have enough income for a rainy day.
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post Apr 3 2025, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Apr 3 2025, 02:14 PM)
You have a misunderstanding about unsecured debt. While it's a debt without collateral, the creditor can still go after the deceased's estate.

Even if someone lent RM1k personally to the deceased, he too can go after the estate if he has proof.
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What if estate is transferred to spouse much earlier? So I don’t think there’s basis to go after estate

In addition what I’m trying to say is banks cannot get back money from kids or wife..they are not obliged to pay

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QUOTE(youngblood29us @ Apr 3 2025, 02:43 PM)
What if estate is transferred to spouse much earlier? So I don’t think there’s basis to go after estate

In addition what I’m trying to say is banks cannot get back money from kids or wife..they are not obliged to pay
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The executor/administrator should not transfer the estate to the next-of-kin before settling the debts.

Of course we all know that the bank cannot go after the kids and wife. I'm talking about the deceased's estate.
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QUOTE(GTA5 @ Apr 3 2025, 01:04 PM)
But how does bank recover it's losses?

Is it possible that a person just Yolo and take up as much cc card debt as possible, then just gg, knowing that the debt will not be passed on?

Just wondering
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which is why when apply CC they ask for IC so they can check your EPF account.

Also above certain age with no savings not easy to get CC with high limit.
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post Apr 3 2025, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(youngblood29us @ Apr 3 2025, 02:43 PM)
What if estate is transferred to spouse much earlier? So I don’t think there’s basis to go after estate

In addition what I’m trying to say is banks cannot get back money from kids or wife..they are not obliged to pay
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The administrator is legally liable to pay off debts before distributing the deceased assets. Thus, the administrator can be legally by debtors if fail to settle the debts before distributing.

If no estate, then no need pay lo.
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QUOTE(youngblood29us @ Apr 3 2025, 01:53 PM)
Correct me if I’m wrong..this is absolute bs..CC is unsecured lending
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You are wrong.
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post Apr 3 2025, 07:02 PM

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sorry but what "estate" means ? property ?
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QUOTE(Azran1979 @ Apr 3 2025, 07:02 PM)
sorry but what "estate" means ? property ?
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Estate means harta.

So any assets tied to the person's name. House, bank acc, FD, etc etc

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