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Kid born overseas to Msian mother gets citizenship, Thank you Dr Wee
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Dec 20 2023, 10:44 AM, updated 2y ago
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Dec 20 2023, 10:45 AM
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more bbc will marry malaysian women , anak anak can get citizenship.
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Wee Ka Siong was not the only person to thank to. People like Azalina and his team also need to be highlight because they make this happen. It need a Constitutional amendment to legalise it and they passed it not long ago.
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Dec 20 2023, 10:53 AM
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So the little girl can vote when reach 18 ---don't forget ya,
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Every man and woman is malaysian. Stop antara 2 darjat mentality. Children are the future of malaysia.
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Dec 20 2023, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Dec 20 2023, 10:45 AM) Tak boleh ke?Nampak sopan dan manis tension7 liked this post
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Dec 20 2023, 10:58 AM
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Why wee wee?
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Dec 20 2023, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(NautieWabbit @ Dec 20 2023, 10:52 AM) What makes you think before this amendment they cannot have their kids to become citizen?This issue is regarding Malaysia WOMAN marrying a foreigner and their children were born OUTSIDE MALAYSIA (Federation). Under previous Constitution, the children cannot automatically become a citizen (following their Malaysia mother). Parent (mother) need to apply for her kid to become a citizen. With this Constitutional amendment, the children automatically become a citizen if the parent want to. This post has been edited by frossonice: Dec 20 2023, 11:17 AM |
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I think her daughter born in Germany, but she wants Malaysian citizen. She also studied and worked there for awhile.. if I remember correctly. I respect everyone's decision about this, she knows what's best for her and her daughter. But if me, probably stay in Germany already... even fruits going UK these days. Maybe the language is huge barrier kot. Don't know, can't judge yet, need to ask herself for the answers. Maybe someone need to interview her. party and max_cavalera liked this post
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Dec 20 2023, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Dec 20 2023, 10:59 AM) I think her daughter born in Germany, but she wants Malaysian citizen. She also studied and worked there for awhile.. if I remember correctly. I think it is high time for Malaysia to rethink about dual-citizenship. While I understand the decision of bar dual-citizenship back then, nowadays the world is like a global village. People work everywhere and anywhere. It is better for come people to have a choice of citizenship if that is on the table. Malaysia need to be smart about it. Maybe they can offer something like MM2H benefit and term and regulations. Just my 2 sen.I respect everyone's decision about this, she knows what's best for her and her daughter. But if me, probably stay in Germany already... even fruits going UK these days. Maybe the language is huge barrier kot. Don't know, can't judge yet, need to ask herself for the answers. Maybe someone need to interview her. |
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QUOTE(frossonice @ Dec 20 2023, 11:11 AM) I think it is high time for Malaysia to rethink about dual-citizenship. While I understand the decision of bar dual-citizenship back then, nowadays the world is like a global village. People work everywhere and anywhere. It is better for come people to have a choice of citizenship if that is on the table. Malaysia need to be smart about it. Maybe they can offer something like MM2H benefit and term and regulations. Just my 2 sen. Yes I agree. We need at least dual citizenship. |
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Dec 20 2023, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(Manuk1188 @ Dec 20 2023, 10:53 AM) Plot twist - after 18, renounce Malaysian citizenship. QUOTE(frossonice @ Dec 20 2023, 11:11 AM) I think it is high time for Malaysia to rethink about dual-citizenship. While I understand the decision of bar dual-citizenship back then, nowadays the world is like a global village. People work everywhere and anywhere. It is better for come people to have a choice of citizenship if that is on the table. Malaysia need to be smart about it. Maybe they can offer something like MM2H benefit and term and regulations. Just my 2 sen. Their voter base don’t need dual citizenship. Only people who vote against them needs dual citizenship. |
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Dec 20 2023, 11:18 AM
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Thank you Wee Ka siong. Please continue your service to the Rakyat. You help much more people then you know who, everyday troll comments only.
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Dec 20 2023, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(frossonice @ Dec 20 2023, 11:11 AM) I think it is high time for Malaysia to rethink about dual-citizenship. While I understand the decision of bar dual-citizenship back then, nowadays the world is like a global village. People work everywhere and anywhere. It is better for come people to have a choice of citizenship if that is on the table. Malaysia need to be smart about it. Maybe they can offer something like MM2H benefit and term and regulations. Just my 2 sen. You can renounce your citizenship, then apply MM2H. Then you'll be Malaysian PR + whatever new citizenship you have |
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QUOTE(frossonice @ Dec 20 2023, 10:53 AM) Wee Ka Siong was not the only person to thank to. People like Azalina and his team also need to be highlight because they make this happen. It need a Constitutional amendment to legalise it and they passed it not long ago. This was the last ammendment that the NGOs all up in arms about ? |
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Where's the foreigner father now? Just curious
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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Dec 20 2023, 10:45 AM) Now malay people upgrade to jubah and tuding labuh , so nons take over baju kurung jasonlim liked this post
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QUOTE(frossonice @ Dec 20 2023, 10:53 AM) Wee Ka Siong was not the only person to thank to. People like Azalina and his team also need to be highlight because they make this happen. It need a Constitutional amendment to legalise it and they passed it not long ago. What has changed? Something big like constitutional change requires 2/3 majority. How come it's not in the news? Good news with progress should be highlighted. |
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Sudah keluar malaysia. Happily in europe… Why still want 3rd world country backwater citizenship? Thought msia is the worst in the world for these ppl? M4A1 liked this post
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Dec 20 2023, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(coyouth @ Dec 20 2023, 11:24 AM) What has changed? Something big like constitutional change requires 2/3 majority. How come it's not in the news? Good news with progress should be highlighted. I reread again about the news. This one actually under Article 15(2) of the constitution. IINM, this process were expediate by the ministry while waiting for the amendment on Article 14(1) being table in the Dewan soon. Sorry for the mistake. |
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kesian those born in Malaysia still not holding blue IC
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 20 2023, 11:26 AM) Sudah keluar malaysia. Happily in europe… It's usually bec the MY parent want the child to have MY passport.Why still want 3rd world country backwater citizenship? Thought msia is the worst in the world for these ppl? Who knows if divorce or what 😜, the kid having MY passport may become useful. So, the kid ends up with multiple passport not bec s/he wants it but bec of parents. max_cavalera liked this post
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Later the little gurl can't speak BM and got wack everywhere.
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thank wrong people. actually the team working behind is PH - UMNO, where Azalina work to amend the constitution. Lembu punya susu, sapi dapat nama.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 20 2023, 11:26 AM) Sudah keluar malaysia. Happily in europe… Why still want 3rd world country backwater citizenship? Thought msia is the worst in the world for these ppl? QUOTE(countingcrows @ Dec 20 2023, 11:40 AM) It's usually bec the MY parent want the child to have MY passport. Or if one day both parents kena hit by a bus, there's the option for some family in Msia to care for them.Who knows if divorce or what 😜, the kid having MY passport may become useful. So, the kid ends up with multiple passport not bec s/he wants it but bec of parents. countingcrows liked this post
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QUOTE(frossonice @ Dec 20 2023, 10:53 AM) Wee Ka Siong was not the only person to thank to. People like Azalina and his team also need to be highlight because they make this happen. It need a Constitutional amendment to legalise it and they passed it not long ago. problem is after they legalized itdoes it also mean malaysia gov recognize dual citizenship because that's the reason citizenship only follow father side and how sure are they that the girl only hold malaysian citizenship i mean it's a good thing what they did but it contradicts with the other main stuff at the same time |
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 20 2023, 11:26 AM) Sudah keluar malaysia. Happily in europe… why notWhy still want 3rd world country backwater citizenship? Thought msia is the worst in the world for these ppl? u have no idea how precious malaysian citizenship is got 1 peagent winner...married a UK citizen in theory becoming a UK citizen is better right? but the mom still wants her child to have malaysian citizenship(if can choose) she is the one that voiced out about this problem at the beginning at the end, her child still hold UK citizenship and passport |
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Child of Malaysian mother is easier to obtain Malaysian citizenship than Malaysian father.
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QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Dec 20 2023, 10:59 AM) I think her daughter born in Germany, but she wants Malaysian citizen. She also studied and worked there for awhile.. if I remember correctly. Yes, the daughter born in Germany. The Star article got picture of the whole family. Husband is Chinese, dunno if Msian or not.I respect everyone's decision about this, she knows what's best for her and her daughter. But if me, probably stay in Germany already... even fruits going UK these days. Maybe the language is huge barrier kot. Don't know, can't judge yet, need to ask herself for the answers. Maybe someone need to interview her. Both husband & wife working in Germany at the time the 1st daughter was born. 2nd daughter born in Msia so no problem https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023...lly-a-malaysian |
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 20 2023, 11:26 AM) Sudah keluar malaysia. Happily in europe… Malaysia still the best...kena tangkap, can kasi duit kopi settle, do business beside road, no license also can settle. Actually Malaysia is the best place to relax and not so strict law enforcement, and also doing business. That's why a lot of China ppl come here set up factory to do recycling business.Why still want 3rd world country backwater citizenship? Thought msia is the worst in the world for these ppl? This post has been edited by Jv8888: Dec 20 2023, 01:03 PM |
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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Dec 20 2023, 01:02 PM) Yes, the daughter born in Germany. The Star article got picture of the whole family. Husband is Chinese, dunno if Msian or not. Husband confirm not Malaysian. I think is Indonesian.Both husband & wife working in Germany at the time the 1st daughter was born. 2nd daughter born in Msia so no problem https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023...lly-a-malaysian |
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QUOTE(coyouth @ Dec 20 2023, 11:24 AM) What has changed? Something big like constitutional change requires 2/3 majority. How come it's not in the news? Good news with progress should be highlighted. It passed in Parliament this year, it's an amendment https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2023/06/...ums-overseas-be https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/malays...ysian%20fathers. The mother was interviewed by CNA Singapore |
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Dec 20 2023, 01:07 PM) I baru read the CNA article, husband is Germany citizen.https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/malays...ysian%20fathers. One major reason for citizenship is for education. Also cheap medical care This post has been edited by eaglehelang: Dec 20 2023, 01:14 PM countingcrows liked this post
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memula its about gender inequality
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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Dec 20 2023, 01:09 PM) It passed in Parliament this year, it's an amendment Nlhttps://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2023/06/...ums-overseas-be https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/malays...ysian%20fathers. The mother was interviewed by CNA Singapore Not yet passed. https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023...-says-saifuddin |
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QUOTE(frossonice @ Dec 20 2023, 12:11 PM) I think it is high time for Malaysia to rethink about dual-citizenship. While I understand the decision of bar dual-citizenship back then, nowadays the world is like a global village. People work everywhere and anywhere. It is better for come people to have a choice of citizenship if that is on the table. Malaysia need to be smart about it. Maybe they can offer something like MM2H benefit and term and regulations. Just my 2 sen. Legally we don’t allow dual citizenship However still many Malaysian took other country citizenship while keeping Malaysian one My daughter and son , both has Malaysian citizenship and follow their mum citizenship as well This post has been edited by cuddlybubblyteddy: Dec 20 2023, 01:26 PM countingcrows liked this post
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boleh cakap bahasa malaysia tak...owai
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Dec 20 2023, 01:17 PM) Nov 28, 29 and 30 have been set aside to debate and pass Bills. wonder what happened. |
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 20 2023, 12:26 PM) problem is after they legalized it You can hold 'dual-citizenship' until you turn 18 years old. After that, you must choose one.does it also mean malaysia gov recognize dual citizenship because that's the reason citizenship only follow father side and how sure are they that the girl only hold malaysian citizenship i mean it's a good thing what they did but it contradicts with the other main stuff at the same time |
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Terbaek Dr Wee
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Only T20 dapat, yang lain still pending approval..
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QUOTE(frossonice @ Dec 20 2023, 11:11 AM) I think it is high time for Malaysia to rethink about dual-citizenship. While I understand the decision of bar dual-citizenship back then, nowadays the world is like a global village. People work everywhere and anywhere. It is better for come people to have a choice of citizenship if that is on the table. Malaysia need to be smart about it. Maybe they can offer something like MM2H benefit and term and regulations. Just my 2 sen. ya, I also supportk multiple citizenships, just think like job hopping :X |
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Dec 20 2023, 10:54 AM) Baju kurung hngghhhhhhhhhhh latipbogiba liked this post
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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Dec 20 2023, 01:52 PM) I know kids (adults now) born in MY to both MY parents that got sent to intl school (GIS), who cannot speak BM adequately. excuses, i went to private school and spoke english mainly yet I can still speak cantonese, mandarin, hakka and BM fluently....kece kelete ceket ceket |
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QUOTE(halglory @ Dec 20 2023, 02:41 PM) excuses, i went to private school and spoke english mainly yet I can still speak cantonese, mandarin, hakka and BM fluently....kece kelete ceket ceket Always good to be able to communicate in mutiple languages.I think it depends on the curricullum. Your school perhaps teaches MY curricullum? |
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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Dec 20 2023, 03:09 PM) Always good to be able to communicate in mutiple languages. back then we're still SPM but we're only allowed to speak English at school...of course i'd give my hats off to my BM teachers who are very dedicated to show us the versatility of the BM language, that's also how I got interested in reading pantuns and writing karanganI think it depends on the curricullum. Your school perhaps teaches MY curricullum? countingcrows liked this post
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QUOTE(frossonice @ Dec 20 2023, 11:11 AM) I think it is high time for Malaysia to rethink about dual-citizenship. While I understand the decision of bar dual-citizenship back then, nowadays the world is like a global village. People work everywhere and anywhere. It is better for come people to have a choice of citizenship if that is on the table. Malaysia need to be smart about it. Maybe they can offer something like MM2H benefit and term and regulations. Just my 2 sen. Good point. I wany my UK citizenship and Malaysian citizenship both. Many countries already do this. But I guess it's a start |
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Dec 20 2023, 02:32 PM) The mother was in Germany, study, work married a Chinese German citizen. Can see his picture in Star articlehttps://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023...lly-a-malaysian https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/malays...ysian%20fathers. In CNA article, mother said her husband quit his job in Germany to come Malaysia join her. She came back to give birth to 2nd kid cos of 1st daughter citizenship problem As to why never stay in Germany there get citizenship there like what some /k post, she didn't say. Could be language, job opportunity, Covid or just dual citizenship in case divorce. Nowadays can do online business from anyway in the world. The parents can travel back & forth Germany. This post has been edited by eaglehelang: Dec 20 2023, 03:44 PM |
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Dec 20 2023, 03:36 PM
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she was born in germany and now get malaysian ic. so she got option to choose her nationality by her 18th birthday. She will choose to become a german definitely.
This post has been edited by mroys@lyn: Dec 20 2023, 03:38 PM |
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Dec 20 2023, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Dec 20 2023, 03:35 PM) The mother was in Germany, study, work married a Chinese German citizen. Can see his picture in Star article Thanks. Would have chosen the former citizenship for her son if I were her lol , but then again I dunno how German govt grants citizenship over therehttps://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023...lly-a-malaysian https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/malays...ysian%20fathers. In CNA article, mother said her husband quit his job in Germany to come Malaysia join her. She came back to give birth to 2nd kid cos of 1st daughter citizenship problem As to why never stay in Germany there get citizenship there like what some /k post, she didn't say. Could be language, job opportunity, Covid or just dual citizenship in case divorce. Nowadays can do online business from anyway in the world. The parents can travel back & forth Germany. |
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Dec 20 2023, 04:15 PM
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DAP?
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Dec 20 2023, 05:51 PM
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MCA got hope if they get rid of those useless sobs. Bring back calibre people like Ling Liong Sik, Ong tee keat, the late Chua Jui Meng.
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