splitting issue, mostly comes from 2 events
- accident
- slider kene rembat (slider attaches to the engine mounting screw and the engine itself lends to its structural integrity) so no screw, wheelie, slam wheel, piaaakkkkk
so far malaysia afaik, both events pernah kene... slider kes, not sure if kene rembat or came off on its own

recall, to do with tuning, and i guess the o2 sensor connector. its not properly weatherproofed, so when it rains, theres a chance water gets in and suddenly u cannot start the bike till it dries out

theres actually a 3rd issue. its god dem ugly. with the rear fender, its ugliness is further pronounced.

to be very honest, the look has grown on me. the theme is naked, and it really suits.

and yes, i lagi x suka the v4 design. 2v cantik, its the only model i would call good looking.

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Dec 19 2023, 06:41 PM

nah not that bad.... i think the built on the more expensive bikes are 'better-ish' things like the switch gear all feel nicer, but same can be said about almost every other manufacturer out there. u basically get what u pay for

**that said, not sure how it compares to the more modern chinese bikes... i have seen the clx700 and honestly it was a really appealing package. built seemd pretty good for the pricepoint


This post has been edited by lsm1991: Dec 21 2023, 03:07 PM

wah those prices.... frankly, id take the ugly 09 and do whatever work i would need with the extra moneys

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Jan 5 2024, 06:05 PM

not bad, year 22, cash usually asking 45k before negotiations

actually u may be right, cause i do notice recently some listing for 43 also ade... tapi thats cashlah... if kedai, 45 or so

some us fellas already got to poke about.... main frame accordingly other than a plugged hole, seems to be the same, but the rear frame (bolted on section) is all diferent

imolah long as u dont crash, frame will work fine, hit hard enough most modern bikes will give. this fella the frame is rather exposed. if pecah during accident, i suppose thats where insurance will serve its purpose. Price to pay for that light body i suppose.

the other bigish bike that is on paper heavy but seems to do well is that suzuki 8s

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Jan 18 2024, 10:52 AM

no idea, from whay they are saying, same same, just 2 holes plugged up and thats about it

dunolah, at least in our group, only 3 kene (so far)... 2 accident case, one guy we guess slider kene rembat cause when it broke, he noticed the sliders both sides missing.

rest of these fellas happily nooning their bikes (typical mt owner behavior)

yep

so happens that, the sliders typically make use of the engine mounting bolt locations to mount the sliders (fairly common, nothing too unusual) so once the sliders get stolen, theres nothing holding the engine in from the front (which i believe takes the most stress when u come off a wheelie)

the engine is an integral part of the chassis, take one look at the structure and i think you can understand why once its nolonger bolted on peoperly, its bound to fail. Its actually a common design these days allows manufacturers to produce lighter frames.

just be careful, check once over and you should be finelah....

so far no regrets getting it, engine reliable and puts out way way more power than i ever need, its comfortable to ride, its light, just ugly

thats what i mean yes, looks to me like its similar take that front engine bolt out and see how much material is actually holding that bike together, theres only the bit over the engine.