Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Fuel Subsidy CUT: diesel and then RON95, A lot of talk but will we walk the walk?

Do you think our country have the guts to do it?
 
Yes, like very soon (2024) [ 27 ] ** [25.47%]
Very Likely (some delay is still to be expected) [ 34 ] ** [32.08%]
Wait and See (the government will keep delaying) [ 23 ] ** [21.70%]
No way (only talks socks sing song) [ 16 ] ** [15.09%]
Absolutely never (it will be suicidal to the grand scheme of things) [ 6 ] ** [5.66%]
Total Votes: 106
Guests cannot vote 
views
     
ayamxxx
post Dec 1 2024, 06:52 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,645 posts

Joined: Apr 2010
From: Kuala Lumpur



Just take off fuel subsidy since gomen lack of funds for other programs etc. give subsidy like Pak Lah times but via latest tech, straight via IC cash rebates etc
TSEnergyAnalyst
post Dec 3 2024, 07:24 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,077 posts

Joined: Oct 2012
https://www.nst.com.my/news-cars-bikes-truc...-going-electric

Food for thoughts

QUOTE
Zero energy bill by going electric
By Shamsul Yunos
December 2, 2024 @ 8:34pm

...It just never really occurred to me that purchasing an electric car would be the catalyst for making solar roof such a good financial move especially as the government is mulling the possibility of modifying the current petrol subsidy system to exclude a large portion of the population.

After all most people don't really take the environment into account when they buy a car but they do take into account running cost, maintenance, insurance and monthly payments.

By looking at car and solar as a package, buyers would see a much larger financial benefit of making the move to electric vehicles.

In any case, the move to electric vehicles cannot rely on government incentives beyond the first few years where it is necessary to attract early buyers to the technology but beyond that they have to stand on their own merit.

Stories like that of Mushab and his young family who represents the average Malaysian family is the sort that will make people think that they too should make the transition.

Once there is no financial penalty in the purchase price of an electric vehicle, people will need to overcome their concerns with the cost of battery replacement and the longevity of the batteries but it seems that worry is fast evaporating.

The proof of this renewed confidence in batteries can be seen in the resurgence of hybrid sales in Malaysia and around the world.

Just a few years ago any suggestion of hybrid would be met with a frown and a question about the cost of battery replacement because many of us have heard about the jaw dropping prices of post-warranty battery replacement for hybrids. 

The prospect of never having to pay for neither electricity nor petrol can be one of the most compelling reason to make the EV transition. I'm sorry of you live in a highrise.

TSEnergyAnalyst
post Dec 17 2024, 01:32 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,077 posts

Joined: Oct 2012
https://soyacincau.com/2024/12/16/proton-em...e-specs-launch/

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Click into the link for more perks

Trade in your ICE, more rebates if they are Proton ICEs
ayamxxx
post Dec 17 2024, 10:12 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,645 posts

Joined: Apr 2010
From: Kuala Lumpur



QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Dec 17 2024, 01:32 AM)
https://soyacincau.com/2024/12/16/proton-em...e-specs-launch/

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Click into the link for more perks

Trade in your ICE, more rebates if they are Proton ICEs
*
better wait up to mid next year, later they put rebates. See x70 facelifted, new, already put rm10k rebates. why cant this EV model
4WD_er
post Dec 17 2024, 02:38 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
536 posts

Joined: Aug 2018


Aiya, why Govt talked so long about subsidy removal and no update on how is it done ?

The earlier they got rid of the drug for rakyat, the faster we will see EV transition.
GamersFamilia
post Dec 17 2024, 07:54 PM

Videogames Enthusiast
********
All Stars
13,509 posts

Joined: Dec 2007
From: Bandar Baru Bangi , Malaysia



QUOTE(4WD_er @ Dec 17 2024, 02:38 PM)
Aiya, why Govt talked so long about subsidy removal and no update on how is it done ?

The earlier they got rid of the drug for rakyat, the faster we will see EV transition.
*
Especially ron95, it seems nothing at the moment
TSEnergyAnalyst
post Dec 18 2024, 07:56 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,077 posts

Joined: Oct 2012
QUOTE(4WD_er @ Dec 17 2024, 02:38 PM)
Aiya, why Govt talked so long about subsidy removal and no update on how is it done ?

The earlier they got rid of the drug for rakyat, the faster we will see EV transition.
*
Need to define T15 first , just around the corner: 1Q2025

https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/737225

After that , by mid 2025 the details on the roll out implementing
ayamxxx
post Dec 18 2024, 08:21 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,645 posts

Joined: Apr 2010
From: Kuala Lumpur



QUOTE(4WD_er @ Dec 17 2024, 02:38 PM)
Aiya, why Govt talked so long about subsidy removal and no update on how is it done ?

The earlier they got rid of the drug for rakyat, the faster we will see EV transition.
*
Madani in a nutshell. some ministers want drastic action plans etc, but when come to PMX, need to factors for B40, so hold again and again. See why Sarawak diesel still continue subsidy but remove for peninsular. different country? no ball to make drastic but good action in a long run?
trinity3
post Dec 18 2024, 01:18 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
90 posts

Joined: Dec 2007
QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Dec 3 2024, 07:24 AM)
I'm for EV

Now using a < 50k car, +/- 10k km per year. Electric bill also abt $80.

So don't make sense for my use case now, unless I sell charging at my home, lol.

Will be interesting when EV is abt 75k with decent range.
littlefire
post Dec 18 2024, 01:51 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,486 posts

Joined: Jun 2009
From: Penang


QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Dec 18 2024, 09:21 AM)
Madani in a nutshell. some ministers want drastic action plans etc, but when come to PMX, need to factors for B40, so hold again and again. See why Sarawak diesel still continue subsidy but remove for peninsular. different country? no ball to make drastic but good action in a long run?
*
Sabah election is coming by 2025, besides that they need GPS to support current goverment. If they pull out Madani will fall, is all about politics.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Dec 18 2024, 01:52 PM
Icehart
post Dec 20 2024, 02:11 PM

72.55.191.6
********
All Stars
14,680 posts

Joined: Apr 2005
From: Kuala Lumpur & Selangor


I already paying diesel RM 2.95 vs RM 2.15 previously.
So one tank diesel now is RM 35 more expensive than before (For my CX5)

One full tank is approximately 650km

One month I pump twice, so one month RM 70 more expensive for me.
It is not as drastic increase as what I've expected.
kupronikel83
post Dec 21 2024, 10:16 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
118 posts

Joined: Jul 2008


solution:incerase your income....
GamersFamilia
post Dec 21 2024, 05:34 PM

Videogames Enthusiast
********
All Stars
13,509 posts

Joined: Dec 2007
From: Bandar Baru Bangi , Malaysia



QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Dec 18 2024, 08:21 AM)
Madani in a nutshell. some ministers want drastic action plans etc, but when come to PMX, need to factors for B40, so hold again and again. See why Sarawak diesel still continue subsidy but remove for peninsular. different country? no ball to make drastic but good action in a long run?
*
They claimed sabah and sarawak many people using diesel, thats why madani decided continue giving subsidy..
I'm glad selling off my mitsubishi triton before the subsidy for peninsular been removed
TSEnergyAnalyst
post Dec 23 2024, 06:44 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,077 posts

Joined: Oct 2012
2025 is also the last year of delay of CKD car prices based on OMV


https://www.wapcar.my/news/omv-issue-2025-p...ntil-2026-83391


» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Dec 23 2024, 06:45 AM
TSEnergyAnalyst
post Jan 11 2025, 10:56 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,077 posts

Joined: Oct 2012
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2025...oon-says-rafizi

QUOTE
The eligibility criteria and mechanism for the RON95 subsidy should be announced in a few weeks, says Economy Minister Rafizi Ramli.

He said his ministry would present related matters to the Cabinet soon for approval before informing the public.


“The Economy Ministry and Finance Ministry will bring the proposal of the mechanism and eligibility to Cabinet for approval, and as we progress, we will communicate to the public as soon as possible.

"Given that the timeline is in a few months, and this is already January, some of these announcements have to be made progressively going forward," he said at the Malaysian Economic Forum on Tuesday (Jan 9).


Rafizi said the announcement would include the transition from existing gross income criteria, which comprise B40, M40, and T20, to net disposable income.

“We have informed the proposal of policy changes, but the Cabinet's decision has to be official so we can proceed to the next steps.

"In a few weeks, we hope to finalise the matter with the government’s approval in accordance with the proposal by the Economy Ministry,” he added.

DS51
post Today, 10:00 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
484 posts

Joined: Dec 2017


QUOTE(Icehart @ Dec 20 2024, 02:11 PM)
I already paying diesel RM 2.95 vs RM 2.15 previously.
So one tank diesel now is RM 35 more expensive than before (For my CX5)

One full tank is approximately 650km

One month I pump twice, so one month RM 70 more expensive for me.
It is not as drastic increase as what I've expected.
*
Those who need to pay full is the one who can afford to absorb the price hike. and what citizen concern is goods and services price hike. but, diesel subsidy removal not really affected inflation. just enter new year, food of price increase. but not related to diesel. but related to other things. chain effect.

If I become government, I will fast fast remove ron95 subsidy. even without removal, price of goods still increase. so, why need to wait.
sadukarzz
post Today, 10:05 AM

Enthusiast
*****
Junior Member
704 posts

Joined: Jul 2011
At least until after Sabah state election I suppose
TSEnergyAnalyst
post Today, 10:51 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,077 posts

Joined: Oct 2012
QUOTE(Icehart @ Dec 20 2024, 02:11 PM)
I already paying diesel RM 2.95 vs RM 2.15 previously.
So one tank diesel now is RM 35 more expensive than before (For my CX5)

One full tank is approximately 650km

One month I pump twice, so one month RM 70 more expensive for me.
It is not as drastic increase as what I've expected.
*
Many need to pump at least twice per week unfortunately, not as lucky as you to only need to pump twice a month
Icehart
post Today, 11:00 AM

72.55.191.6
********
All Stars
14,680 posts

Joined: Apr 2005
From: Kuala Lumpur & Selangor


QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Jan 13 2025, 10:51 AM)
Many need to pump at least twice per week unfortunately, not as lucky as you to only need to pump twice a month
*
My car tank is bigger.
If I pump twice every week I'll be doing 5,200km every month.

An average consumer only drives 2,000km per month.

ayamxxx
post Today, 12:19 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,645 posts

Joined: Apr 2010
From: Kuala Lumpur



QUOTE(DS51 @ Jan 13 2025, 10:00 AM)
Those who need to pay full is the one who can afford to absorb the price hike. and what citizen concern is goods and services price hike. but, diesel subsidy removal not really affected inflation. just enter new year, food of price increase. but not related to diesel. but related to other things. chain effect.

If I become government, I will fast fast remove ron95 subsidy. even without removal, price of goods still increase. so, why need to wait.
*
I vouched for subsidy removal be it diesel as well as petrol. Too many foreigner taking an advantage here especially at the boarder, in Perlis more obvious Thailand registered car filled up our 95 like nobody cares. But, if Gomen got ball, make it to all, not Peninsular only, include also Sabah and Sarawak, what are the objective discard them from subsidy cut off?

Another is the related to Medical, at KKM and Public Hospital. RM1 treatment is sure hurts the gomen wallet cz nobody is checking the patient weather they are b40 nor t20, both pay rm1. Why not make it rm50 as minimum except to those needed and purely b40? The extra fund from this, or saving from the subsidy by this, transfer it to KKM or MOH, they can use it to hire more doctors, or give annual appreciation bonus for example.

Pity to see the gomen Doctors need to works extra miles and full swing especially see the no of patients at any public hospitals are max daily

4 Pages « < 2 3 4Top
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0384sec    0.48    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 13th January 2025 - 03:16 PM