I kinda disagree, my privileges as a Malaysian are not determined by whether I know BM or not, if I am a citizen, then I should be able to get a passport, an IC, etc.

Do IRB tax me based on my knowledge of BM (no because the tax laws are not made like that, same argument - is passport/IC eligibility based on mastery of BM or based on citizenship/PR status?)? If govt can tax me, then govt should provide services due to me as a taxpayer and citizen.

Article 16

Subject to Clause (9), the Federal Government may, upon application made by any person of or over the age of twenty-one years who is not a citizen, grant a certificate of naturalization to that person if satisfied -

(a) that -

(i) he is resided in the Federation for the required periods and intends, if the certificate is granted, to do so permanently;

(ii) (Repealed).

(b) that he is of good character; and

© that he has an adequate knowledge of the Malay language.

so u banana? can't speak tamil?

Don't confound requirements for getting naturalised/citizenship with services due to a citizen. I am already a citizen. I know and speak BM adequately, many buyers of items I sold are surprised I am not Malay when we meet up. Over the phone only know I am non when I don't reply the aunty no husband greeting.

Can someone find in Immigration website saying passport applicants need to demonstrate adequate BM mastery if they are already citizen?

This is what I hate, little napoleons implementing their own rules in providing services to those who are entitled to it, because if someone can come up with their own requirements - don't blame when those who come up with their own reasoning not to pay tax la, not to do this la, don't follow traffic rules la, etc etc.

A professor from Universiti Utara Malaysia (UUM) has suggested that Malaysian children are required to learn and be proficient in the Malay language before they are entitled to the blue identity card and officially becoming a citizenship of the country.



Datuk Dr Zainal Kling, a professor at UUM’s college of law, government and international studies wrote in Mingguan Malaysia, that language used to be a compulsory requirement for someone to be entitled to a citizenship, but it was removed by the Parliament when then Gerakan co-founder Tan Sri Dr Tan Chee Khoon stated that Malaysians had already learnt Bahasa Malaysia (BM), the country’s national language, even in Chinese and Indian vernacular schools as well as in other national schools.

In the words of Datuk Zainal:

“If the third requirement, their language, is not fulfilled, don’t give them the blue identity card, give them the temporary red one.”

The red MyKad is given to permanent residents of the country. Currently a child is granted Malaysian citizenship if one or both parents are Malaysians or a permanent resident.

Again, you confound what might happen with what is already the law now, you cannot strip a person of Malaysian citizenship for not knowing the national language. Future we don't know.

A guy voicing out his opinion is not law.

Before I bagi soalan susah kepada RT8081, jelas sedikit stance saya.
I dont know her, but I would bet good money if she's being held at gun points, a lot of Malay words would come out from her.
This lady is a Sohai that think she's higher class because she uses English, and never intended to deal with anyone else, other than those in her bubbles.

Good for you to know Tamil and you know who never go to SJKC/SJKT or even SJK?
My grandparents and alot of people that didn't even go to school was able to converse in Melayu tells that it's not about schooling but willingness.

In those close minded people's mindset, they think that they've been wronged by the country/malay majority and therefore they refuse to use it.
Agreed.

My question is would the officer put her application on review, or even rejected her.
But the reality is the officer scolded her but at the end still let her renew her daughter passport.

Sounded like a certain grab ahpek to you? sounded the kopiah kid but still deliver the boy to at least a designated safe points.
pkm TS put a google translated article and didn't bother to mention it.

Only those lower level staffs cannot speak english. Most officer level wont have this problem. To be an officer you need a degree but those clerical level only require minimum spm level and unfortunately these are the people who manned the counters. thats why english among civil servants are so bad

Many tamilians don't speak hindi yo, and northerners don't speak tamil.

What is the yindia national language? Yinglish?

Then how? Body language and international language? No wonder bollywood actors & actresses so hot and the movie so much fight scenes la there - joking ya - don't flame me.

I don't know about Singapore syllabus - but I doubt they can even speak basic Malay, the most they know is the lyrics in the national anthem. I don't think they can carry a conversation in Malay there.

Don't forget, the Lee family are actually peranakans, that is why they can speak Malay, but I don't think the next gen can speak Malay.

I agree with you. Idk where people get this notion that Singaporeans can converse in basic Malay.

This is very untrue lol.

My family too... we only speak mostly English or a little bit of Thai.