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post Nov 30 2023, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(9m2w @ Nov 30 2023, 01:50 PM)
I hope aunty improves, Malaysians should know malay full stop

Look at TS. Arab who improved his malay from pigdin to above rempit

It's doable. Take TS as an inspiration
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I kinda disagree, my privileges as a Malaysian are not determined by whether I know BM or not, if I am a citizen, then I should be able to get a passport, an IC, etc.

Do IRB tax me based on my knowledge of BM (no because the tax laws are not made like that, same argument - is passport/IC eligibility based on mastery of BM or based on citizenship/PR status?)? If govt can tax me, then govt should provide services due to me as a taxpayer and citizen.

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post Nov 30 2023, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Nov 30 2023, 02:14 PM)
Don't confound requirements for getting naturalised/citizenship with services due to a citizen. I am already a citizen. I know and speak BM adequately, many buyers of items I sold are surprised I am not Malay when we meet up. Over the phone only know I am non when I don't reply the aunty no husband greeting.

Can someone find in Immigration website saying passport applicants need to demonstrate adequate BM mastery if they are already citizen?

This is what I hate, little napoleons implementing their own rules in providing services to those who are entitled to it, because if someone can come up with their own requirements - don't blame when those who come up with their own reasoning not to pay tax la, not to do this la, don't follow traffic rules la, etc etc.
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post Nov 30 2023, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Nov 30 2023, 02:27 PM)
Means government can strip your citizenship based on this clause alone. Immi and JPN has powers to annual your citizenship if you fail to grasp this even basic language. Just because they didnt dont, doesn't mean they can't. Sure, you can always hire a lawyer to fight this in court
Already one guy voicing it out
https://worldofbuzz.com/university-professo...le-citizenship/

Good luck
Last time this was removed but doesn't mean it won't be reintroduce again looking at our politics at the moment
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Again, you confound what might happen with what is already the law now, you cannot strip a person of Malaysian citizenship for not knowing the national language. Future we don't know.

A guy voicing out his opinion is not law.
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post Nov 30 2023, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(tatabun @ Nov 30 2023, 03:23 PM)
“ Sorry abang, we studied in Singapore since we were young, so we really don’t understand... ”

she should just get singapore PR and be happy ever after
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mana tau she already got PR but she very patriotic dun want to let go of citizenship and want to continue contribute money to the country leh

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post Nov 30 2023, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Nov 30 2023, 05:07 PM)
Those who cannot speak Malay mostly want Tongsan to come here.  brows.gif
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When in reality, it's those who speak that wants tongsan to come here and buy land, because they support orang kito in a land far away while tongsan ships encroaching our EEZ buat tatau.
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post Nov 30 2023, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(trojandude @ Nov 30 2023, 05:45 PM)
Because it’s their fundamental right. The rights to citizenship cannot be denied if they’re born to Malaysian parents

Maybe they can’t speak because they never grew up here

And you can’t expect them to just let go of their citizenship because they’ll become stateless. And giving up their citizenship doesn’t mean they’re guaranteed to be a citizen of another country anyway
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As can be seen in the discussion so far, it's difficult sometimes to have a discussion on what are requirements that were imposed by little napoleons versus our legal rights.
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post Nov 30 2023, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(Aftermaths @ Nov 30 2023, 05:08 PM)
- An Indian from India who can't speak any India language?
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Many tamilians don't speak hindi yo, and northerners don't speak tamil.

What is the yindia national language? Yinglish?
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post Nov 30 2023, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Nov 30 2023, 05:51 PM)
Aiyoh TS dunno dumb & deaf ke ?
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Yeah, buat2 OKU, manatau they then get someone who knows sign language, then can we say we only sign in American Standard Sign language and not local BM sign language?
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Nov 30 2023, 05:53 PM)
There is no national language in India la.
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Then how? Body language and international language? No wonder bollywood actors & actresses so hot and the movie so much fight scenes la there - joking ya - don't flame me.
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post Nov 30 2023, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Nov 30 2023, 05:56 PM)
Basic can already

Weird excuse anyway because Singapore syllabus also got Bahasa. Takkan TS so special until didn't learn Bahasa in Singapore.
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I don't know about Singapore syllabus - but I doubt they can even speak basic Malay, the most they know is the lyrics in the national anthem. I don't think they can carry a conversation in Malay there.

Don't forget, the Lee family are actually peranakans, that is why they can speak Malay, but I don't think the next gen can speak Malay.
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post Nov 30 2023, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(knumskul @ Nov 30 2023, 06:46 PM)
They hear Singaporeans utter Malay words. Therefore can converse fluently.

I learnt this logic from an amoi when she started dating SG dude  doh.gif
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Inb4 the nons in Sg that speak BM was actually born Malaysian and work there or converted, kek.
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post Nov 30 2023, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(sCid00 @ Nov 30 2023, 10:44 PM)
#justice4ChristineNg
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hngggh!
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post Nov 30 2023, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(bristlebb @ Nov 30 2023, 07:54 PM)
you know how good PM Lee's BM?

you got no excuse

but of cos, attitude gamen servant at UTC johor machiem babi if that was real setori
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Dude, you know he is peranakan no? BM could be his second language after English. His BM could be even better than his Mandarin or hokkien. But I doubt PM Lee's children can speak BM.

 

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