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 Honda HRV vs Toyota Cross. Which one will you buy?

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alexei
post Nov 28 2023, 09:18 AM

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alexei
post Nov 28 2023, 09:24 AM

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High speed stability: Cross

oh, and the Honda 1.5T has oil monitor, meaning when it is due, the dash will countdown for oil change... I heard it can be between 6k to 8k km for oil change. Cross doesn't give you that kind of thing...


I'd prefer a Cross

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alexei
post Nov 28 2023, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 28 2023, 10:42 AM)
if the 1.5T HRV is using same suspension and absorbers as the RS Hybrid EHEV, then high speed i am 100% sure will > cross

cuz the car is retardedly stiff (and harsh)
first gen HRV is overly soft, so from complaints and feedback, Honda Malaysia Lazy engineering > max stiff on the other end of the spectrum. but that will mean highway stability (and to an extent, cornering, assuming smooth roads) will be very good, no floaty feel at all.
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wow, really? here no have HRV hybrid for test drive, which we wanted
so, HRV 1.5T should consider changing for the RS shocks? what are they? stiffer than RS Ultra?
alexei
post Nov 28 2023, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Nov 28 2023, 12:43 PM)
You can't estimate with just RPM without consider load.

The only absolutely true measure is the air flow throw the throttle body (hence TCR, GT3 racing using air restrictor in their BoP Balance of Performance, which is basically a standard size cone for every team).

Modern engine varies a lot around the ideal 14.7 ratio, even more so for the small displacement turbo with ultra lean (stratified) combustion mode at low load on both low/high rpm.
On the flip side, on high load extra fuels are injected just to cool the engine for both NA/Turbo, just more severe in turbo case.

My car easily varies between 20km+/l to no more than 5km/l.

Rule of thumb, don't think of the rpm, think of your own throttle input (although drive by wire means it is also damped by ECU).
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thanks, I hear you, went through some of the BoP publications, interesting read, almost rocket science for me

 

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