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Why this clock cannot use rechargeable battery?
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TSSkylinestar
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Nov 21 2023, 07:25 PM, updated 3y ago
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https://www.nitori.my/collections/wall-tabl...lock-shao-sw-grNitori WALL CLOCK SHAO-SW-GR [Battery used] AA x 1 (sold separately) *Rechargeable batteries cannot be used. This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Nov 21 2023, 07:26 PM
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fantasy1989
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Nov 21 2023, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 21 2023, 07:25 PM) https://www.nitori.my/collections/wall-tabl...lock-shao-sw-grNitori WALL CLOCK SHAO-SW-GR [Battery used] AA x 1 (sold separately) *Rechargeable batteries cannot be used. Alkaline batteries are the only type of battery that should be used in clocks. Lithium powered or re-chargeable batteries will cause your clock to malfunction, or not function at all https://frankenmuthclock.com/blogs/news/bes...tion%20at%20all.
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SUStsunade
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Nov 21 2023, 07:30 PM
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rechargeable batteries got lower voltage
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ihavenoidea
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Nov 21 2023, 07:34 PM
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Need proper 1.5v baru work kot. Those rechargeable battery usually 1.2v
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Pewufod
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Nov 21 2023, 07:41 PM
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rechargeables power discharge can be erratic, will screw up timing
alkaline performs the same at 10% or 99%
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taitianhin
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Nov 21 2023, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Nov 21 2023, 07:30 PM) Alkaline batteries are the only type of battery that should be used in clocks. Lithium powered or re-chargeable batteries will cause your clock to malfunction, or not function at all https://frankenmuthclock.com/blogs/news/bes...tion%20at%20all. dang.... that Dark mode, cause my eyes to see Extra Lines now....
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TSSkylinestar
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Nov 21 2023, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Nov 21 2023, 07:30 PM) Alkaline batteries are the only type of battery that should be used in clocks. Lithium powered or re-chargeable batteries will cause your clock to malfunction, or not function at all https://frankenmuthclock.com/blogs/news/bes...tion%20at%20all. Energizer, have extra plastic coating on the negative end of the battery, which can cause clocks to malfunction or not work properly at all what???
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Ayambetul
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Nov 21 2023, 07:42 PM
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Ayam tatau
Ayam use rechargeable batt okie jer
Ikea clock run decade without issue
Ikea clock FTW
This post has been edited by Ayambetul: Nov 21 2023, 07:44 PM
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anakkk
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Nov 21 2023, 07:43 PM
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i usually use energizer only
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vapanel
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Nov 21 2023, 07:43 PM
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Lower voltage
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azbro
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Nov 21 2023, 07:49 PM
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Only use Carbon Zinc battery for wall clock
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potatolala
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Nov 21 2023, 07:50 PM
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One of humanity greatest invention, the battery 🔋
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hurricane21
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Nov 21 2023, 07:53 PM
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Ayam use black and decker handheld screwdriver also say use alkaline battery only
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brkli
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Nov 21 2023, 07:56 PM
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because it is a lapsap clock.
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alexander3133
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Nov 21 2023, 07:58 PM
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Cukur my big wall clock accept rechargeable battery
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acbc
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Nov 21 2023, 07:59 PM
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If u want to use rechargeable battery for a clock, need a boost converter board.
I used a 4.2V LiOn 18650 for my cuckoo clock. The bloody thing need 4 X D batteries for a total of 6V.
The boost converter board boost the voltage from 4.2V to 6V and lasted about 6 months. Maybe I should add another 18650 to the clock. Will try this weekend.
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Natsukashii
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Nov 21 2023, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(Ayambetul @ Nov 21 2023, 07:42 PM) Ayam tatau Ayam use rechargeable batt okie jer Ikea clock run decade without issue Ikea clock FTW That's why.. if rechargeable battery can't be used, then there is no point of having battery that can be recharged. When I bought rechargeable battery, I don't think there was a notice: May or may not work depending on device. So if a battery didn't work, it must be the device problem.
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AbbyCom
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Nov 21 2023, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(azbro @ Nov 21 2023, 07:49 PM) Only use Carbon Zinc battery for wall clock That has been my experience. But those are the cheap wall clocks. Alkaline will cause malfunction. Rechargables are 1.2V, haven't really tried them.
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olivur
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Nov 21 2023, 08:11 PM
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ikea rechargeables never lost
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uni_lib
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Nov 21 2023, 08:13 PM
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rechargeable output only 1.2V compared to non-rechargeable is 1.5V. So, this clock need 1.5V.
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SUSrtk74
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Nov 21 2023, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Nov 21 2023, 07:30 PM) Alkaline batteries are the only type of battery that should be used in clocks. Lithium powered or re-chargeable batteries will cause your clock to malfunction, or not function at all https://frankenmuthclock.com/blogs/news/bes...tion%20at%20all. QUOTE(azbro @ Nov 21 2023, 07:49 PM) Only use Carbon Zinc battery for wall clock Duality of men.
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pandah
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Nov 21 2023, 09:06 PM
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got clock that works on wall plug no need change battery kah?
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mi-g
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Nov 21 2023, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE(pandah @ Nov 21 2023, 09:06 PM) got clock that works on wall plug no need change battery kah? mostly digital clocks.. like used in suraus and masjids
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k!nex
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Nov 21 2023, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE(pandah @ Nov 21 2023, 09:06 PM) got clock that works on wall plug no need change battery kah? Sendiri solder wires to AC adaptor. The thing is , power outage will make your clock stop functioning. Then when power resumes you have to set the time again This post has been edited by k!nex: Nov 21 2023, 09:32 PM
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SUSMyProLife
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Nov 21 2023, 09:33 PM
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Different voltage. Rechargeable battery 1.2v variable, others (zinc or alkaline) 1.5v
For low drain like clock, best to just use zinc battery
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ry8128
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Nov 21 2023, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Nov 21 2023, 07:30 PM) Alkaline batteries are the only type of battery that should be used in clocks. Lithium powered or re-chargeable batteries will cause your clock to malfunction, or not function at all https://frankenmuthclock.com/blogs/news/bes...tion%20at%20all. Someone told me alkaline not good for clock, is this true?
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fantasy1989
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Nov 21 2023, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(pandah @ Nov 21 2023, 09:06 PM) got clock that works on wall plug no need change battery kah? not worth the hassle and investment cost
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narf03
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Nov 21 2023, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Nov 21 2023, 10:13 PM) Someone told me alkaline not good for clock, is this true?  never heard of something like that, alkaline last longer, start with much higher voltage, and can store more charge, as long as you dont consume it(unless you android or cyborg), i dont see its downside.
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ozak
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Nov 21 2023, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Nov 21 2023, 07:58 PM) Cukur my big wall clock accept rechargeable battery I use Ikea rechargeable battery for the Ikea clock also. No issue.
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ozak
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Nov 21 2023, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Nov 21 2023, 10:13 PM) Someone told me alkaline not good for clock, is this true?  Cause chemical leaking.
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howszat
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Nov 21 2023, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Nov 21 2023, 07:30 PM) Alkaline batteries are the only type of battery that should be used in clocks. Lithium powered or re-chargeable batteries will cause your clock to malfunction, or not function at all https://frankenmuthclock.com/blogs/news/bes...tion%20at%20all. That's not really true. And that article sounds like a lot of made up nonsense.
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azbro
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Nov 21 2023, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(AbbyCom @ Nov 21 2023, 08:05 PM) That has been my experience. But those are the cheap wall clocks. Alkaline will cause malfunction. Rechargables are 1.2V, haven't really tried them. My Seiko wall clock last forever using Zinc Carbon batteries. The engine using real Seiko one. One time I decided to use energizer, that was the end of it. Had to change the engine to those cheaply Seiko stuff that is on the newer models.
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Kasawari 2
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Nov 21 2023, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(narf03 @ Nov 21 2023, 10:17 PM) never heard of something like that, alkaline last longer, start with much higher voltage, and can store more charge, as long as you dont consume it(unless you android or cyborg), i dont see its downside. I think normal zinc battery is recommended and sufficient for quartz clock movement. Alkaline battery is an overkill or might even cause damage due to high current draw. Those are more for high current application such as RC toy cars with motor drive. Just like using RON 97 petrol for old Saga/Iswara. Just waste of money.
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narf03
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Nov 21 2023, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(Kasawari 2 @ Nov 21 2023, 10:31 PM) I think normal zinc battery is recommended and sufficient for quartz clock movement. Alkaline battery is an overkill or might even cause damage due to high current draw. Those are more for high current application such as RC toy cars with motor drive. Just like using RON 97 petrol for old Saga/Iswara. Just waste of money. nah, a good circuit will limit current flow, wont be like when fuel max, car run faster, when fuel low car run slower.
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silverhawk
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Nov 21 2023, 11:04 PM
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Eyes on Target
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QUOTE(narf03 @ Nov 21 2023, 10:35 PM) nah, a good circuit will limit current flow, wont be like when fuel max, car run faster, when fuel low car run slower. No circuit is impervious to variations. In digital, its less of an issue because we've engineered a lot of things to handle those variations (e.g. error correction codes) In analog, you're more susceptible to such variations.
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brkli
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Nov 22 2023, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE(ihavenoidea @ Nov 21 2023, 07:34 PM) Need proper 1.5v baru work kot. Those rechargeable battery usually 1.2v then means this clock is sampah.. for a 1.5V battery can use until 1.2V only.. than like around 50% of an alkaline battery capacity. meaning when the clock stop running, u put the battery into say a remote, it is likely still usable.
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brkli
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Nov 22 2023, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE(narf03 @ Nov 21 2023, 10:35 PM) nah, a good circuit will limit current flow, wont be like when fuel max, car run faster, when fuel low car run slower. do u think this cheapo clock which can't even work with 1.2V rechargeable NiMH battery have a voltage regulator circuit to limit the current flow?
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narf03
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Nov 22 2023, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(brkli @ Nov 22 2023, 12:10 AM) do u think this cheapo clock which can't even work with 1.2V rechargeable NiMH battery have a voltage regulator circuit to limit the current flow? was comparing alkaline with rechargeable, battery to battery, from what i know it can be done in a very tiny soc, lets say regulate all incoming voltage more than 1.0v to 1.0v, so you put in new battery 1.6v or rechargeable 1.2v all regulate to 1.0v first b4 the chip start functioning. so as long as your battery still have charge more than 1.0v, will still work.
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TSSkylinestar
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Nov 22 2023, 07:40 AM
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QUOTE(brkli @ Nov 22 2023, 12:08 AM) then means this clock is sampah.. for a 1.5V battery can use until 1.2V only.. than like around 50% of an alkaline battery capacity. meaning when the clock stop running, u put the battery into say a remote, it is likely still usable. when do u throw away battery? when it can't power up a remote? when it can't power a clock? what device can run with the weakest battery?
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samftrmd
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Nov 22 2023, 07:57 AM
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Just use phone.
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Virlution
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Nov 22 2023, 07:58 AM
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for clock, use cheap carbon zinc battery, dont even need alkaline..
Rechargable at full charge only dish out 13.4v and not close to 1.5v, so clock might run slower. After a while with it will only put out like 1.2v then you will lose few minutes every month.
Also rechargable not suitable for slow drain battery, more for fast drain like Alkaline replacement.
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ozak
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Nov 22 2023, 09:10 AM
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I stopped using alkaline batteries or normal batteries. All switch to rechargeable battery.
The chemical leaking corroded my device. And an expensive device.
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brkli
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Nov 22 2023, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 22 2023, 07:40 AM) when do u throw away battery? when it can't power up a remote? when it can't power a clock? what device can run with the weakest battery? for me is remote.. just a IR diode and basic signal circuit. if u have a LED torch light that use 1.5V battery, can use it too.. it will be dimmer, that will be the most basic one.
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marfccy
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Nov 22 2023, 11:17 AM
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theres quite alot of engineering that goes into clocks or timekeeping device
changes in the voltage can somehow make the accuracy deviate AFAIK, like for example if you set in clock 1pm to tie with official time, then due to issues with the clock when its 2pm your clock still shows 1.55pm or something like that
thats one of the reason why some watches are so darn expensive, cause their device have to also guarantee super precise timekeeping
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marvinben
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Nov 22 2023, 11:38 AM
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The quartz crystal is responsible for time keeping and doesn't really care about 1.2V from rechargeables. But the part I circled in red does. It's a puller solenoid responsible for the clock movement and it need the 1.5V nominal from alkaline/zinc carbon battery. You still can use rechargeable battery, just charge them more often. This post has been edited by marvinben: Nov 22 2023, 11:39 AM
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Virlution
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Nov 22 2023, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 22 2023, 09:10 AM) I stopped using alkaline batteries or normal batteries. All switch to rechargeable battery. The chemical leaking corroded my device. And an expensive device. I have heaps of AA/AAA batteries as well. No leaks are the bonus. but clocks and remotes, I still use alkaline/zinc batteries, the rest are all rechargables. Camera and Flashes are recommended not to use Nimh batteries though.
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