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post Nov 7 2023, 09:46 AM, updated 3y ago

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Can someone explain to me what is Maxis infra and TM infra?


Same fiber different server ?

This post has been edited by OlgaC4: Nov 7 2023, 09:47 AM
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post Nov 7 2023, 09:59 AM

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human language... maxis rent line from unifi.
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post Nov 7 2023, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(lalakiki @ Nov 7 2023, 09:59 AM)
human language... maxis rent line from unifi.
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Not so simple. Rent line from the house to tm server or maxis server.
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post Nov 7 2023, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Nov 7 2023, 10:01 AM)
Not so simple. Rent line from the house to tm server or maxis server.
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bro.. then u wan what language? simple human language only.. or u wan techincal words?
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post Nov 7 2023, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Nov 7 2023, 09:46 AM)
Can someone explain to me what is Maxis infra and TM infra?
Same fiber different server ?
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So, most Fiber ISPs in Malaysia borrow/rent TM's Fiber infrastructure
Basically the fiber cables from your home to the node
Once it reaches there it splits off to your ISP
Instead of every isp running cables to your home, TM does and others rent it
This has some benefits but also some downsides like all the pricing being fixed, like how everyone offered RM89 30Mbps in the past
This is refered to as Maxis on TM Infra

In some rare instances, Maxis will run its own cable instead of using TM's. This is usually for high rise, or new areas where they got in quicker than TM
This is refered to as Maxis on Maxis Infra

Usually, Maxis will offer special promo prices that are far cheaper to those on Maxis own infra as they own the cable and don't have to pay TM, so, their costs are reduced.

Other ISPs that run their own infra are TIME and TNB Allo
But both of their infra could be used by other isps too (such as Digi)
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post Nov 7 2023, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(PRSXFENG @ Nov 7 2023, 10:10 AM)
So, most Fiber ISPs in Malaysia borrow/rent TM's Fiber infrastructure
Basically the fiber cables from your home to the node
Once it reaches there it splits off to your ISP
Instead of every isp running cables to your home, TM does and others rent it
This has some benefits but also some downsides like all the pricing being fixed, like how everyone offered RM89 30Mbps in the past
This is refered to as Maxis on TM Infra

In some rare instances, Maxis will run its own cable instead of using TM's. This is usually for high rise, or new areas where they got in quicker than TM
This is refered to as Maxis on Maxis Infra

Usually, Maxis will offer special promo prices that are far cheaper to those on Maxis own infra as they own the cable and don't have to pay TM, so, their costs are reduced.

Other ISPs that run their own infra are TIME and TNB Allo
But both of their infra could be used by other isps too (such as Digi)
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So from my house to tm node.
Then tm node to maxis server
Maxis server to international site

Is that correct?
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post Nov 7 2023, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Nov 7 2023, 10:13 AM)
So from my house to tm node.
Then tm node to maxis server
Maxis server to international site

Is that correct?
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Yes,

Except, PPPoE is handled by TM (VLAN 621)
if you have Unifi PPPoE account, you can even use it on VLAN 621

I have done that test as I was ex-Maxis on TM fiber
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post Nov 7 2023, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Nov 7 2023, 12:28 PM)
Yes,

Except, PPPoE is handled by TM (VLAN 621)
if you have Unifi PPPoE account, you can even use it on VLAN 621

I have done that test as I was ex-Maxis on TM fiber
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The PPPoE handling is at the node ?
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post Nov 7 2023, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(PRSXFENG @ Nov 7 2023, 10:10 AM)
So, most Fiber ISPs in Malaysia borrow/rent TM's Fiber infrastructure
Basically the fiber cables from your home to the node
Once it reaches there it splits off to your ISP
Instead of every isp running cables to your home, TM does and others rent it
This has some benefits but also some downsides like all the pricing being fixed, like how everyone offered RM89 30Mbps in the past
This is refered to as Maxis on TM Infra

In some rare instances, Maxis will run its own cable instead of using TM's. This is usually for high rise, or new areas where they got in quicker than TM
This is refered to as Maxis on Maxis Infra

Usually, Maxis will offer special promo prices that are far cheaper to those on Maxis own infra as they own the cable and don't have to pay TM, so, their costs are reduced.

Other ISPs that run their own infra are TIME and TNB Allo
But both of their infra could be used by other isps too (such as Digi)
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Regarding to "Maxis will run its own cable instead of using TM'", is there any way to check from the router, which infra my connection is hopping on ?
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post Nov 7 2023, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(1234_4321 @ Nov 7 2023, 02:06 PM)
Regarding to "Maxis will run its own cable instead of using TM'", is there any way to check from the router, which infra my connection is hopping on ?
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If your LAN cable is connected from LAN2 of the modem to the router, TM
If it's LAN1, Maxis

Or in the UI
check the VLAN ID of eInternet
621 for TM, 11 for Maxis
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post Nov 7 2023, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Nov 7 2023, 12:28 PM)
Yes,

Except, PPPoE is handled by TM (VLAN 621)
if you have Unifi PPPoE account, you can even use it on VLAN 621

I have done that test as I was ex-Maxis on TM fiber
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Can we run Maxis or Digi PPPoE account on Vlan 500? I am eager to test out and see if there is any difference.
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QUOTE(YoungMan @ Nov 7 2023, 02:57 PM)
Can we run Maxis or Digi PPPoE account on Vlan 500? I am eager to test out and see if there is any difference.
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yes, I have tried many times, even during transition from Maxis to Unifi, I login both 🤣 on VLAN 500

this show PPPoE is handled by TM
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post Nov 8 2023, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Nov 7 2023, 11:03 PM)
yes, I have tried many times, even during transition from Maxis to Unifi, I login both 🤣 on VLAN 500

this show PPPoE is handled by TM
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Is there any difference like speed capped when you run both Maxis and Unifi on same VLAN?
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post Nov 8 2023, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Nov 7 2023, 11:03 PM)
yes, I have tried many times, even during transition from Maxis to Unifi, I login both 🤣 on VLAN 500

this show PPPoE is handled by TM
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