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marfccy
post Nov 28 2023, 05:44 PM

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wah entry level RM74k
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post Nov 29 2023, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Nov 29 2023, 03:06 PM)
those who using X50 X70 ok? spare parts, repair, service ok?

tempted to buy this since it is C segment yet cheap.

but wife keep tell me not to.. coz it's Proton. Later spare parts issue, many other etc issues. Then I told her sudah Geely lor... but she still don't trust. So how?
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the spare parts issue is during pandemic time la, where everything stalled not just protong parts

i got a X70 since 2018, so far so good not so much issues in terms of service and maintenance cost, and expected for SUV range. theres only one case dunno suddenly system issue car kenot startup, but it was software than hardware and rectified without going to SC
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post Nov 29 2023, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Nov 29 2023, 04:26 PM)
Your engine mounts no problem? Mine have to change within 3+ years. 1.8k cost
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so far nada, but i dont drive it as often maybe?

mileage around 50~k nia last i remember
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post Jun 12 2025, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Jun 11 2025, 07:13 PM)
More than 15 years ago Persona already like that. Then Preve got 1.6 turbo. Then now S70.

Story still the exact same. Buyer don't care about power at all. FC and secondhand value is the main priority
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the thing most people are often misled about is that they think "majority" wants FC and dont care of power. but the truth is much simpler. if your sample of people are city drivers, obviously they dont need powerful engines for city driving at all which is not a wrong assumption. but it is still a biased assumption

if engine power doesnt matter, why do you think there are still people driving around in powerful fuel guzzler >2.0cc cars in cities? i dont see anyone complaining about these cars FC

arguably however, these car owners usually are in the higher income bracket so they dont care abt FC and can afford petrol so...
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post Jun 12 2025, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(DS51 @ Jun 12 2025, 01:47 PM)
above c segment car, mostly dont really care about fc already.

s70 is compete with b segment according to price range, so actual owner is fall towards more fuel economy.

proton try to market is as segment above b and said it compete with c segment which is civic, but real buyer of b segment will buy city/vios, while real buyer of c segment who dont care about fuel economy will end up with civic or altis.

so that is where the downfall of s70.
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yeah thats why arguably lor. im mostly highlighting on those naysayers who kept complaining that fuel economy is the numba 1 concern in these cars

i dont disagree that people always prefer lower FC but at same time they have to be realistic with the car's power in return. we havent reached the point where FC of an Axia but power of a 2.0cc turbo, such thing havent exist yet. so to sum it up, nak power? suffer high FC. nak FC? suffer in car power.

cause if by that logic that if everyone prefers FC as main concern, everyone would be sporting those japanese box cars with insane fuel efficiency on our roads. but narp, reality hits different

 

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