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SUSxiaojohn
post Nov 30 2023, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 30 2023, 09:20 PM)
You said ma, if platform good, sure will put in marketing materials.

Honda Civic FE use what platform?
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no point to mislead unker ya...

actually unker know it...but unker don't want to tell you...unker is part of their supplier...

focus back to S70
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post Nov 30 2023, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Nov 30 2023, 09:20 PM)
you please don't sohai ask back uncle questions...sendiri go see the specification okay?

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Either the S70 wheelbase is wrong, or they modified it. The M in BMA stands for modular, so that is not hard to change.

And that is a far more plausible explanation that saying it's not BMA. That implies that Proton built a Emgrand-lookalike on a completely different platform. You know how much money that will cost?
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post Nov 30 2023, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Nov 30 2023, 09:23 PM)
no point to mislead unker ya...

actually unker know it...but unker don't want to tell you...unker is part of their supplier...

focus back to S70
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No wonder Honda quality down the drain, got sohai like you as supplier.
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post Nov 30 2023, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 30 2023, 09:24 PM)
No wonder Honda quality down the drain, got sohai like you as supplier.
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honda fans all know the handa platform name/code....it just you don't know only...

not only honda/toyota/mazda...unker also know proton saga platform name....because unker got supplied a bit of material before this...
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post Nov 30 2023, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Nov 30 2023, 09:26 PM)
honda fans all know the handa platform name/code....it just you don't know only...

not only honda/toyota/mazda...unker also know proton saga platform name....because unker got supplied a bit of material before this...
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Yes yes....sure. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 30 2023, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 30 2023, 09:23 PM)
Either the S70 wheelbase is wrong, or they modified it. The M in BMA stands for modular, so that is not hard to change.

And that is a far more plausible explanation that saying it's not BMA. That implies that Proton built a Emgrand-lookalike on a completely different platform. You know how much money that will cost?
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Wheelbase is adjustable to a certain degree for car manufacturers.

25mm is definitely doable.
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QUOTE(msacras @ Nov 30 2023, 09:27 PM)
Wheelbase is adjustable to a certain degree for car manufacturers.

25mm is definitely doable.
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Yep. Tell that to mr.Toyota/Honda/Mazda/Proton supplier
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post Nov 30 2023, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 30 2023, 09:23 PM)
Either the S70 wheelbase is wrong, or they modified it. The M in BMA stands for modular, so that is not hard to change.

And that is a far more plausible explanation that saying it's not BMA. That implies that Proton built a Emgrand-lookalike on a completely different platform. You know how much money that will cost?
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unker have no idea but unker just point out the things which is DIFF....as unker say....only the proton/geely can tell...

either they use some alternative material....which is no longer part of the original platform....or they cut cost something from the platform itself....
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post Nov 30 2023, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(msacras @ Nov 30 2023, 09:27 PM)
Wheelbase is adjustable to a certain degree for car manufacturers.

25mm is definitely doable.
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do you know any reason they shorten the wheelbase? or how they shorten it?
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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 30 2023, 09:27 PM)
Yes yes....sure. biggrin.gif
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unker is old but not sohai as you...
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post Nov 30 2023, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Nov 30 2023, 09:30 PM)
do you know any reason they shorten the wheelbase? or how they shorten it?
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It’s to fit dif style of car
BMA is designed to stretch from 2.55m to 2.7m
https://auto.sina.cn/jishu/2018-07-26/detai...x1604473.d.html
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post Nov 30 2023, 09:35 PM

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Man, the Dr.Jay vibe is strong
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post Nov 30 2023, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(msacras @ Nov 30 2023, 09:32 PM)
It’s to fit dif style of car
BMA is designed to stretch from 2.55m to 2.7m
https://auto.sina.cn/jishu/2018-07-26/detai...x1604473.d.html
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Thanks for sharing…indeed this is a good info…

Btw, do you know how geely reduce the JLH-3G15TD to JLH-3G15T?
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post Nov 30 2023, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 30 2023, 09:35 PM)
Man, the Dr.Jay vibe is strong
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What is Dr Jay vibe? Can use human language?
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Nov 30 2023, 09:38 PM)
Thanks for sharing…indeed this is a good info…

Btw, do you know how geely reduce the JLH-3G15TD to JLH-3G15T?
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just swap out direct injection parts with mature pfi parts. yeah still rnd need to be done but simple tasks relatively
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post Nov 30 2023, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 30 2023, 09:35 PM)
Man, the Dr.Jay vibe is strong
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Lol wtf did I miss. What's up with S70 not BMA platform. Proton explicitly says that though. And the Jay fella still around peddling weird CCP worship propaganda
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post Nov 30 2023, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 30 2023, 09:23 PM)
Either the S70 wheelbase is wrong, or they modified it. The M in BMA stands for modular, so that is not hard to change.

And that is a far more plausible explanation that saying it's not BMA. That implies that Proton built a Emgrand-lookalike on a completely different platform. You know how much money that will cost?
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QUOTE(msacras @ Nov 30 2023, 09:27 PM)
Wheelbase is adjustable to a certain degree for car manufacturers.

25mm is definitely doable.
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More likely Proton use a different standard for calculating wheelbase than Geely. China has weird shit like this, I buy 500g of pet treats, they count the box as well in the total weight 500g I was like wtf man. No point from engineering standpoint for changing the wheelbase, no benefits I can see.
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post Nov 30 2023, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Nov 30 2023, 10:45 PM)
the Jay fella still around peddling weird CCP worship propaganda
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Lol I see, still crazy. Never change, Dr Jay biggrin.gif
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post Nov 30 2023, 11:18 PM

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Before anyone wants to buy a proton do know their app sucks to the max.

My Samsung s23u updated two weeks ago and every app updated to follow the filmware update except proton app.

Until now the devs haven't done anything and the app cannot be used
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post Nov 30 2023, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 30 2023, 11:18 PM)
Before anyone wants to buy a proton do know their app sucks to the max.

My Samsung s23u updated two weeks ago and every app updated to follow the filmware update except proton app.

Until now the devs haven't done anything and the app cannot be used
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What proton car you bought?

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