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 Are there any descendants of the Baba Nyonya here?, Discovering the Peranakan Heritage

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post Nov 16 2023, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(NoComment222 @ Nov 5 2023, 02:12 PM)
Most Peranakan moved to Penang/SG in the last decade, you can see the increasing influence and food sold there. In Malaysia, I am afraid only Melaka is the only place left and even that is lesser due to increasing racism and Islamization. Note that despite marrying Malays, Peranakans are not Muslims as required by "law" in the past.

Source: My gf is Peranakan descendant.
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post Nov 16 2023, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(khelben @ Nov 16 2023, 12:43 PM)
Yeah quite often.

I will cook the usual Pong Teh when I balik kampung:
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Chili Garam is my ultimate favorite peranakan food I guess:
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And also Buah Keluak:
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My sister digging the isi lol.
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This one will always be in the fridge, 24/7, it's like a snack:
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Thanks for sharing.

What is the name of the green chilies dishes?

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post Nov 16 2023, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(khelben @ Nov 16 2023, 01:22 PM)
It's actually stuffed chili with shredded papaya, aka Acar Cili Nyonya.
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http://www.elinluv.com/2014/10/pickled-chi...redded.html?m=1

Is this the recipe for the dish?

I find the calendar a bit complex; could you please share your preferred layout?

May I inquire if the calendar is from a Peranakan dressing/sauce company?

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post Nov 16 2023, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Nov 16 2023, 12:41 PM)
Pai Tee is not poh piah.

I think you are NOT descendants of the Baba Nyonya.
Or lost all knowledge of Baba Nyonya traditions & culture?
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My great-grandmother was a Nyonya, but my family moved from Penang to Johor around the 1970s.





Are you Peranakan?

May I know if this chili belongs to the Peranakan cuisine?
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post Nov 16 2023, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Nov 16 2023, 02:04 PM)
Yes, that stuff chili jeruk dish is ubiquitous in Baba Nyonya kitchen
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May I know nyonya fried chicken recipe correct?

Bubur cha cha really have banana?
some website recipe have,some do not have.

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https://www.orientalcuisine.my/recipe/%e5%a...%a1inchi-kabin/


https://asianinspirations.com.au/recipes/ny...t-broth-pengat/



https://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/mco-2-0-no-...pF0pznfuwPSErec



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Make pengat and cook traditional Baba Nyonya dishes

Pengat, a popular Penang Nyonya dessert is usually made and served in the **** morning of Chap Goh Meh *******

for most Penang Baba Nyonya families.

Peter Yeoh, a sixth generation Baba from Penang, said that the pengat is similar to Bubur Cha Cha but the ingredients used for both desserts are not entirely the same.



Pengat made from a variety of ingredients including gula melaka, pandan leaves and brown sugar and served on festive occasions. —


“Ingredients such as bananas, gula melaka, pandan leaves, and brown sugar are used in pengat which makes it a very rich and authentic delicacy.


We will then serve the pengat to our deities by ******12 noon********,” he said.


Means before 12 noon?

Yeoh, however, said that although the dish is a passed-down delicacy, there are new ingredients that his mother has added such as the black-eyed beans and sago jelly.



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Baba Nyonya, Cheng Wei Da: "Lantern Festival is a significant celebration for us Chinese.

Eating Pengat is a representative dessert enjoyed by the whole family after a meal, symbolizing family reunion.


The main ingredients include yam, sweet potatoes in various colors – red, purple, and yellow, representing vibrant and auspicious hues.

Additionally, bananas and glutinous rice cakes signify continuous prosperity.

Since Lantern Festival is also considered our Chinese Valentine's Day, indulging in these sweet treats symbolizes a sweet and blissful life.



Traditionally, Pengat, a dessert enjoyed during the Lantern Festival, ************ is often cut into diamond shapes, **************



symbolizing the attraction of wealth and prosperity.


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post Nov 17 2023, 02:56 AM

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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Nov 17 2023, 01:15 AM)
Like me Siam nyonya but Bumi status..no need potong.
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You are kedah peranakan or penang peranakan?


What is your favourite peranakan food?


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QUOTE(NoComment222 @ Nov 17 2023, 01:04 PM)
The migration and non-Muslim are originally not a factor to become Bumi/Peranakan. It was simply love between two races back in Melaka. When the NEP started then Arab-isation by Anwar in UMNO decades back, then only the requirement of Bumis = Malays + muslims are set. If the current definition of Bumis are being imposed back in the old days, Sabah, Sarawak and many alliances will cease to be since they won't want that kind of unfair arrangement.
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Some people said that Peranakan birth certificates in 1960 indicated Bumiputera status for newborns.

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Nov 17 2023, 12:27 AM)
Cant answer on the fried chicken recipe as no idea. Banana depends on individual really. Most I have eaten is without banana
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This all belongs to peranakan?

No. Dish Description
1. Nonya Chendol 煎蕊 Icy traditional dessert served with rice flour jelly, coconut milk, and palm sugar syrup
2. Fragrant Durian Chendol 榴莲煎蕊 Icy traditional dessert served with rice flour jelly, coconut milk, and palm sugar syrup topped with durian puree
3. Chempedak Chendol 菠萝蜜煎蕊 Icy traditional dessert served with rice flour jelly, coconut milk, and palm sugar syrup topped with chempedak puree
4. Fresh Soursop 红毛榴莲 Fresh soursop puree served with shaved ice
5. Sago Pudding Gula Melaka 西米布丁与椰糖 Creamy coconut sago pudding served with thickened palm sugar syrup
6. Iced Lemongrass Jelly 爱玉冰与芦荟 Refreshing lemongrass-infused jelly topped with aloe vera bits
7. Hot Creamy Pulut Hitam 自制黑糯米 Traditional black glutinous rice porridge dessert topped with coconut cream
8. Honey Lemon 蜂蜜柠檬水 -
9. Tao suan -
10. Pulut hitam -

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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Nov 17 2023, 03:45 PM)
Penang mali. Fav foods like curry perut ikan (fermented fish stomah kari), yu hu char (every CNY must make), choon pheah (a bit of hakka influene), inchee kabin, laksa lemak, nasi lemak nyonya (with sambal belacan) and prawns/fish deep fried with assam jawa, otak2, sambal udang with ladies fingers, cincalok kangkung, ikan sumbat, tau eu bak...desert - pandan chifon cake, pengat pisang, mi ko moi (black rice porridge with santan), kuih talam,

Sorry no complete drills.

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My family always cut this laka bunga into pieces and put chili together.


Do you do this way?
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post Nov 18 2023, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Nov 17 2023, 11:01 PM)
I like it in my laksa onli. My family like the banana flower heart, boiled and eat with sambal belacan.
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Boil with water?

And fry with sambal belacan?

Is this peranakan dish?
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QUOTE(Srbn @ Nov 18 2023, 09:30 AM)
Now baba nyonya no more bumi status in Malaysia
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Some people said that Peranakan birth certificates in 1960 indicated Bumiputera status for newborns.
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Nov 18 2023, 09:35 AM)
peranakan here. and contrary to what most people believed, most of the peranakan never married a malay in the first place. it was more like assimilation of culture due to geographical factor.

In my case, my father's and mother's grandparent was from china. Landed here and lived in malay majority area.

I get this alot from my friend, peranakan is chinese or malay? lol
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Peter Yeoh, a sixth generation Baba from Penang, said that the pengat is similar to Bubur Cha Cha but the ingredients used for both desserts are not entirely the same.

Unlike the Bubur Cha Cha which is available in dessert shops, the pengat is usually made in Penang Baba Nyonya homes or served for special occasions.

“We will then serve the pengat to our deities by 12 noon,” he said.


Must be 12 noon before?
Are you also 6th generation Baba ?

But your ancestor sure have at least 1 generation married malay right?


Are you from melaka or penang?

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Nov 18 2023, 09:37 AM)
i prefer ayam pong teh, but if buah keluak, have to be pork (small/big bone)
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Nyonya speak malay





Thanks for sharing

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Nov 18 2023, 10:28 AM)
nope....nv married a malay.
lol what special occasion? im melaka peranakan, we nv server pengat tu deities. it's a common dessert.
my family pray to guan yin btw
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Chap Goh Mei, which is the Hokkien term for the 15th night of the lunar new year, is also known as Yuan Xiao Jie, or Lantern Festival.


What are some famous desserts in Peranakan cuisine?


Except chendol

I want to know something that is rare



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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Nov 18 2023, 11:12 AM)
tai bak. rare yes, special probably no. it's just cendol liked rice flour with iced sugar water.
dun think outsiders will like it.
also, on the pengat, we have pengat durian and pengat pisang. we normally eat it with apam kuah. google peranakan apam kuah
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蘭花汁


This flower a bit rare right?
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Nov 17 2023, 11:01 PM)
I like it in my laksa onli. My family like the banana flower heart, boiled and eat with sambal belacan.
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not pahit?


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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Nov 24 2023, 12:33 AM)
Boil with salt..
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Normally how long you boil the bunga pokok pisang with salt?
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Nov 24 2023, 10:21 AM)
Until lembut.
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Like this right?

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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Nov 24 2023, 01:35 PM)
Pls cut up the flower vertically or long strips. I’m eel the outer skin and get the softer parts, nicer taste. Some people like the skin but I find it bitter.
Dun forget sambal belacan.
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Last time, my grandmother made it, and it was tasty, but it turned out too sticky.

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Recipe of Bubur Cha Cha (摩摩喳喳)



Yan and sweet potato must be cut into very small pieces.

Like outside dessert stall....

Ingredients Quantity
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Yam (taro) 芋頭 , peeled and diced 150 gm
Golden sweet potato 黃肉番薯 150 gm
Purple sweet potato 紫番薯 150 gm
Black-eyed beans (black-eyed peas) 50 gm
Tapioca pearls (sago pearls) 50 gm
Boiling water 1 liter (plus more for beans and pearls)
Rock sugar or coconut sugar 120 gm (finely chopped, or to taste)
Coconut cream 1½ cup (or to taste)
Pandan leaves 3 (must tight a knot, do not just put inside pot) later easy to remove when finish cooked





**Step** **Instructions**
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**1. Prepare Black-Eyed Beans** Rinse and drain black-eyed beans. Soak in boiling water, covered, for 15 to 20 minutes. Drain and boil in a large pot until softened (20-30 minutes). Set aside.
**2. Prepare Tapioca Pearls** Soak tapioca pearls for 10 minutes. Drain and cook in boiling water, covered, until it boils again. Remove from heat, keep the lid on, and let residual heat cook for 10 minutes. Drain through a fine sieve, rinse with cold water, and set aside.
**3. Steam Vegetables** Steam diced yam, golden, and purple sweet potatoes until softened (about 20 minutes).
**4. Prepare Coconut Milk Base** In a large pot, add 1 liter of boiling water and rock sugar. Bring to a boil. Add pandan leaves, reduce heat, and simmer for 10 minutes. Pour in coconut cream. Once it boils again, remove and discard pandan leaves.
**5. Combine Ingredients** Add sweet potatoes, black-eyed beans, and tapioca pearls to the pot. Ensure rock sugar is dissolved. Adjust sweetness if needed.
**6. Serve** Serve hot or chill in the fridge for a cold option.

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