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post Oct 12 2023, 03:06 AM, updated 3y ago

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For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces

For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank — bringing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group.

The idea was to prevent Abbas — or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government — from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state.

Thus, amid this bid to impair Abbas, Hamas was upgraded from a mere terror group to an organization with which Israel held indirect negotiations via Egypt, and one that was allowed to receive infusions of cash from abroad.

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https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-net...p-in-our-faces/
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post Oct 12 2023, 03:08 AM

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before 7th October

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Just a few days ago, Assaf Pozilov, a reporter for the Kan public broadcaster, tweeted the following: “The Islamic Jihad organization has started a noisy exercise very close to the border, in which they practiced launching missiles, breaking into Israel and kidnapping soldiers.”

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post Oct 12 2023, 03:11 AM

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Netanyahu's map of new Middle East presented at UNGA78.

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post Oct 12 2023, 07:27 AM

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So it was a preplanned by Israel to eventually took total domination of the land?

Anything else new?
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post Oct 12 2023, 07:32 AM

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ini semua Agenda Yahudi
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post Oct 12 2023, 07:33 AM

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Hamas did win the elections in Gaza though. Palestinians there elected them to power in 2006.
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post Oct 12 2023, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(frossonice @ Oct 12 2023, 08:27 AM)
So it was a preplanned by Israel to eventually took total domination of the land?

Anything else new?
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Israeli is not interested in Gaza but they are more interested in West Bank. If you read the news, the land grab are happening in West Bank and not Gaza. Why? East Jerusalem is in West Bank.

He was trying to keep Hamas strong enough to threaten Fatah. Keeping both sides in conflict was the strategy Isreal employed because if Hamas is busy with Fatah, they don’t have time for Isreal.

However, it is clear now this strategy backfired badly!
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post Oct 12 2023, 08:10 AM

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Never keep your threats at bay. That's what puting is doing.

Wipe clean but undone 95%, you will still be tag whatever maybe in the name, the same. So always 101%

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post Oct 12 2023, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(differ @ Oct 12 2023, 07:33 AM)
Hamas did win the elections in Gaza though. Palestinians there elected them to power in 2006.
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One cannot deny that, but also you need to know that Hamas was created by Israel to counter balance the PLO and Fatah that were seen to have a stronger support for Palestinians’ causes, and since then they (Hamas) have been a tool or a thorn on Israel…whichever theory you subscribed to.
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post Oct 12 2023, 08:22 AM

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given the GO card for Israel to run their genocide plan...

...and US being so bodoh to support it....means, they are bringing another religion war into their homeland.

even Europe all STFU....
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post Oct 12 2023, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Oct 12 2023, 08:16 AM)
One cannot deny that, but also you need to know that Hamas was created by Israel to counter balance the PLO and Fatah that were seen to have a stronger support for Palestinians’ causes, and since then they (Hamas) have been a tool or a thorn on Israel…whichever theory you subscribed to.
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Israel did not create Hamas. Israel allowed Hamas to grow and be created so Palestinians and continue to fight with each other (PLO/Hamas). Israel saw the opportunity and let the disease festered as it thought it would benefit them (it did not).

Hamas was created by Palestinians themselves and was voted into power by Palestinians themselves.

Israel only supported the Muslim Brotherhood who's a thorn to PLO. Hamas is the one that splintered away from Muslim Brotherhood and became its own entity in late 80s, and was voted to power by Palestinians themselves.

To say Israel created Hamas is an extremely misleading.

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post Oct 12 2023, 08:23 AM

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post Oct 12 2023, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(trojandude @ Oct 12 2023, 08:23 AM)
Israel did not create Hamas. Israel allowed Hamas to grow and be created so Palestinians and continue to fight with each other (PLO/Hamas). Israel saw the opportunity and let the disease festered as it thought it would benefit them (it did not).

Hamas was created by Palestinians themselves and was voted into power by Palestinians themselves.
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In short, Hamas today is the creation of Israel.
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post Oct 12 2023, 08:27 AM

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Da start blaming game
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post Oct 12 2023, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Oct 12 2023, 08:27 AM)
In short, Hamas today is the creation of Israel.
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No it's not. Israel supported the Muslim Brotherhood in the 70s who is secular and also because they were against PLO. PLO has been continuously waging armed conflict against Israel. Hamas is a subset of Muslim Brotherhood that form their own entity in late 80s.

Hamas today is because Palestinians voted them into power. Israel does not mind control technology. Israel is not like Yuri from Red Alert 2.

At best you can say Israel let Hamas into power, but to say Hamas is created by Israel is misleading.
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post Oct 12 2023, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(trojandude @ Oct 12 2023, 08:31 AM)
No it's not. Israel supported the Muslim Brotherhood in the 70s who is secular and also because they were against PLO. PLO has been continuously waging armed conflict against Israel. Hamas is a subset of Muslim Brotherhood that form their own entity in late 80s.

Hamas today is because Palestinians voted them into power. Israel does not mind control technology. Israel is not like Yuri from Red Alert 2.

At best you can say Israel let Hamas into power, but to say Hamas is created by Israel is misleading.
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Sounds like a drunk person who just read few pages of wikipedia
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post Oct 12 2023, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Oct 12 2023, 08:32 AM)
Sounds like a drunk person who just read few pages of wikipedia
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LMAO

if you're going to blame Israel for creating Hamas, I say let's blame the Jews for Islamic terrorism because afterall Islam is nothing more than an offshoot from Judaism.
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post Oct 12 2023, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Oct 12 2023, 08:16 AM)
One cannot deny that, but also you need to know that Hamas was created by Israel to counter balance the PLO and Fatah that were seen to have a stronger support for Palestinians’ causes, and since then they (Hamas) have been a tool or a thorn on Israel…whichever theory you subscribed to.
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So you are saying that Sheikh Yassin was an Israeli agent? And their early ties with Muslim Brotherhood was all an elaborate hoax?
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post Oct 12 2023, 10:07 AM

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Actually, all these violence is a reaction towards earlier actions. No wrong to say Israel also has a hand in forcing such things to happen.
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post Oct 12 2023, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Oct 12 2023, 08:23 AM)
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Oct 12 2023, 08:27 AM)
In short, Hamas today is the creation of Israel.
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It happens everywhere in the past. Just like how Abu sayaf and Isis in the southern Philippines got the weapons . Once they took up weapons it's time for the onslaught.

It's a method to bait the rat to the trap and killing it


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post Oct 12 2023, 10:17 AM

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times of israel is anti Likud media?
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post Oct 12 2023, 10:18 AM

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so hamas is mossad dog

glad you come to enlightenment
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post Oct 12 2023, 10:19 AM

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Hv u all ever wonder why their intelligence failed to detect such planned attack? It's a deliberate act, to let them carry out the attack.
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post Oct 12 2023, 10:21 AM

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Nathanyahoo need this war laa

To prolong his leaadership…

Israelis last time voted him out. But the coalition gomen is so fragile that it collapsed shortly.

Bringing this nathanyahoo back to power. Now this war happen he sure happy lar. Can give
His popularity up again among israelists.
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post Oct 12 2023, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Oct 12 2023, 10:21 AM)
Nathanyahoo need this war laa

To prolong his leaadership…

Israelis last time voted him out. But the coalition gomen is so fragile that it collapsed shortly.

Bringing this nathanyahoo back to power. Now this war happen he sure happy lar. Can give
His popularity up again among israelists.
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Macam modi start fight with pakistan just to extend his premiership ?
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post Oct 12 2023, 10:25 AM

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Keep your friends close, keep your enemies even closer, they actually do that, for future planning and expansion...
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QUOTE(differ @ Oct 12 2023, 07:33 AM)
Hamas did win the elections in Gaza though. Palestinians there elected them to power in 2006.
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Don't bother. Idiots all have selective memory.
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post Oct 12 2023, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Oct 12 2023, 04:11 AM)
Netanyahu's map of new Middle East presented at UNGA78.

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So familiar it is china show off new map?
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post Oct 12 2023, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(Marcion @ Oct 12 2023, 10:28 AM)
So familiar it is china show off new map?
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now you mentioned it.

lulz. indeed sounds familiar.

 

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