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 Dr Zul: Stanchart KL marathon is haram

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cablesguy
post Oct 10 2023, 10:04 AM

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This is getting ridiculous, if the Muslims dont see, then we're lost.
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post Oct 10 2023, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Oct 10 2023, 10:04 AM)
This is getting ridiculous, if the Muslims dont see, then we're lost.
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some ppl are taught to not persoal and just follow instructions from ppl who have more 'knowledge'
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post Oct 10 2023, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(ukapaka @ Oct 10 2023, 09:31 AM)
Pandai-pandai je kamu.

1. Apa dia cakap ialah tidak boleh masuk, bukan haram masuk.
2. Yang haram not the marathon tapi riba/usury/interest.
3. So if you enter you are entering an event that was sponsored by institutions that build its business around interest/usury/riba.

But in the end if you masuk, masuk saja la. Dr. Zul was answering a question. It's a guidance according to his area of expertise, bukan ada legal restriction pun.
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Very good spin. You can be a DJ.

"Kami katakan, tidak boleh seseorang muslim itu menyertai acara maraton yang dianjurkan oleh institusi berasaskan riba kerana ianya merupakan wasilah kepada perkara yang jelas pengharamannya, iaitu riba."


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post Oct 10 2023, 10:06 AM

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If like this all Muslims cannot work in bank already... hmm.gif
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post Oct 10 2023, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Oct 10 2023, 10:06 AM)
If like this all Muslims cannot work in bank already... hmm.gif
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its fine, there would be all kinds of logic
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Oct 10 2023, 10:04 AM)
This is getting ridiculous, if the Muslims dont see, then we're lost.
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We would be in a better state today if people were wise in the first place.
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post Oct 10 2023, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Oct 10 2023, 08:32 AM)

Dr Zul:

Kesimpulan

Kami katakan, tidak boleh seseorang muslim itu menyertai acara maraton yang dianjurkan oleh institusi berasaskan riba kerana ianya merupakan wasilah kepada perkara yang jelas pengharamannya, iaitu riba.
Also Dr Zul:

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If rename interest to admin fees/costs okay?

So no more riba...just like PTPTN.
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post Oct 10 2023, 10:10 AM

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Dulu boleh sekarang tak boleh. Makin banyak baca buku makin bodo.
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post Oct 10 2023, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Oct 10 2023, 10:06 AM)
Very good spin. You can be a DJ.

"Kami katakan, tidak boleh seseorang muslim itu menyertai acara maraton yang dianjurkan oleh institusi berasaskan riba kerana ianya merupakan wasilah kepada perkara yang jelas pengharamannya, iaitu riba."
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Dr Zul said tidak boleh. TS put it as haram in his thread title. I assume ts has a weak bm comprehension. Kasihan laugh.gif but understandable. So, i help him by converting the text into easy-to-understand point form.
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post Oct 10 2023, 10:16 AM

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God is like this? This cannot that cannot, so in heaven for all eternity we will be living in a police state, where women are 2nd class citizens, a loving, just and fair God treats his greatest creation like this?
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post Oct 10 2023, 10:18 AM

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every damn thing need to outsource ppl to think.. sendiri tak leh pikir
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post Oct 10 2023, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Oct 10 2023, 08:58 AM)
I wonder too in that context.

My confusion here, a bit susah to organize company events la ni macam. We do get sponsors for big events.
Gatherings, trips, workshop amongst client/ staff events
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In that case, say buy halal food stuff from Adabi..... if Adabi got take loan from say Stan Chart... or any banks... then Adabi food stuff is also haram...
TSLembu Goreng
post Oct 10 2023, 10:22 AM

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Good point:


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post Oct 10 2023, 10:24 AM

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rokok haram?
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post Oct 10 2023, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Oct 10 2023, 10:22 AM)
Good point:
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also many businesses pay riba to bank for their loans from the profit they make from u. so cannot do business with them also?
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post Oct 10 2023, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Oct 10 2023, 10:24 AM)
rokok haram?
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Ya hor why they no mention this🤔
Chrix
post Oct 10 2023, 10:29 AM

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puak datang lagi dgn logik ke gua
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post Oct 10 2023, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Oct 10 2023, 08:52 AM)
Kesian meleis kat negara ni.

inb4 "lu cina lu menyibuk pehal??"
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Tu kadang2 ada cina si hujung nyawa sempat masuk Islam
Aku cemburu gila. Sebab syurga sudah di depan dia.
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post Oct 10 2023, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Oct 10 2023, 10:06 AM)
Very good spin. You can be a DJ.

"Kami katakan, tidak boleh seseorang muslim itu menyertai acara maraton yang dianjurkan oleh institusi berasaskan riba kerana ianya merupakan wasilah kepada perkara yang jelas pengharamannya, iaitu riba."
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QUOTE(ukapaka @ Oct 10 2023, 10:13 AM)
Dr Zul said tidak boleh. TS put it as haram in his thread title. I assume ts has a weak bm comprehension. Kasihan  laugh.gif  but understandable. So, i help him by converting the text into easy-to-understand point form.
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Actually I do people like ukapaka a favour by summarising it, but turns out they still like to spin. Read the whole thing from the site, clearly it's haram:

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post Oct 10 2023, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Oct 10 2023, 10:05 AM)
some ppl are taught to not persoal and just follow instructions from ppl who have more 'knowledge'
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everyday pray 5 times also still not enough knowledge...really topkek

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