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Jenn77
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Oct 30 2025, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Oct 30 2025, 10:09 AM) yeah ROI of 7 years are acceptable, furthermore although battery warranty is 10 years, it wont drop dead at 10 years + 1 day, just the capacity degrade to 80% or so, still can use for very long time for further saving down the line just like some idiot worry about the 8 years EV battery warranty I would assume at that time battery have better capacity, better technology and cheaper.
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RicoT
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Oct 30 2025, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Oct 30 2025, 09:26 AM) Half hourly consumption is available in mytnb website but of course not in real time, but you get the historical data there As to minimize the issue of importing in one phase but exporting in the other, this is where the inverter with load balancing feature play a significant role. It can be optimized to prioritize self consumption. I am mainly using only phase A and sometime phase b and c except when i charge my ev using a 3 phase charger  The system always prioritize self consumption and adjust the output on each phase based on demand. The graph above is showing current output from the inverter itself. The graph below shows when there almost zero usage except for the fridge and some small consumption from multiple cctv and ups All output spread evenly among 3 phases  Which Huawei inverter model you are using?  Did you install the Huawei power meter together?
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yushin
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Oct 30 2025, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(Jenn77 @ Oct 30 2025, 12:38 PM) I would assume at that time battery have better capacity, better technology and cheaper. By that time we should have much cheaper battery made from NA battery or retired EV LFP battery. This post has been edited by yushin: Oct 30 2025, 04:41 PM
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backspace66
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Oct 30 2025, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(RicoT @ Oct 30 2025, 04:12 PM) Which Huawei inverter model you are using?  Did you install the Huawei power meter together? Huawei sun2000-8k-mapo coming with compatible ct meter that can communicate with huawei inverter The system optimizes self consumption based on demand and also to run zero export rule if required
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adamw
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Oct 30 2025, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Oct 30 2025, 04:50 PM) Huawei sun2000-8k-mapo coming with compatible ct meter that can communicate with huawei inverter The system optimizes self consumption based on demand and also to run zero export rule if required Problem is proprietary Luna battery + controller needed, cost a bomb!
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RicoT
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Oct 30 2025, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Oct 30 2025, 04:50 PM) Huawei sun2000-8k-mapo coming with compatible ct meter that can communicate with huawei inverter The system optimizes self consumption based on demand and also to run zero export rule if required My installer says the power meter cost 1.6k.
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gogocan
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Oct 30 2025, 08:53 PM
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new ATAP + battery so complicated. can they just make a easy to compute formula
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backspace66
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Oct 31 2025, 07:23 AM
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QUOTE(RicoT @ Oct 30 2025, 08:03 PM) My installer says the power meter cost 1.6k. I saw someone installed diy using chint dtsu66-hw from nem group in fb, iirc it is around rm600(shopee) for 3 phase, should be just a small fee even of you ask electrician to do the wiring. Btw these are compatible list, but only some model support zero export https://support.huawei.com/enterprise/en/do...the-smartlogger
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backspace66
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Oct 31 2025, 07:26 AM
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QUOTE(adamw @ Oct 30 2025, 05:35 PM) Problem is proprietary Luna battery + controller needed, cost a bomb! I understand that, but good thing is , i dont need a battery now. In 10 years when my NEM run out, i would either run on zero export or if huawei battery is cheap enough by that time install a battery or even change the whole inverter(non huawei) and install battery once the inverter breaks down
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RicoT
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Oct 31 2025, 07:58 AM
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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Oct 31 2025, 07:23 AM) I saw someone installed diy using chint dtsu66-hw from nem group in fb, iirc it is around rm600(shopee) for 3 phase, should be just a small fee even of you ask electrician to do the wiring. Btw these are compatible list, but only some model support zero export https://support.huawei.com/enterprise/en/do...the-smartloggerThanks for the reference. Since I am NEM, perhaps I want to try to maximise daytime selco rather than export. This load balancing feature seems useful, especially I have an EV charging during day time. Can you share the NEM FB group? This post has been edited by RicoT: Oct 31 2025, 07:59 AM
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backspace66
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Oct 31 2025, 08:42 AM
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QUOTE(RicoT @ Oct 31 2025, 07:58 AM) Thanks for the reference. Since I am NEM, perhaps I want to try to maximise daytime selco rather than export. This load balancing feature seems useful, especially I have an EV charging during day time. Can you share the NEM FB group? https://m.facebook.com/groups/solarnemdiymalaysia/Yes, load balancing is good to charge ev using solar panel especially if someone is using a single phase charger but 3 phase inverter. unfortunately single phase output is still capped at 1/3 of max output of inverter This post has been edited by backspace66: Oct 31 2025, 08:42 AM
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peterscm
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Nov 4 2025, 08:52 PM
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Just got Oct billing
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Scissorshand
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Nov 6 2025, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE(peterscm @ Nov 4 2025, 08:52 PM) Just got Oct billing  So much excess time to use otherwise forfeit end year
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SUSlurkingaround
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Nov 8 2025, 02:49 PM
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. Fyi, ....... https://www.gbnews.com/politics/ed-miliband...fety-fears-fire - Ed Miliband’s solar panel drive sparks safety fears amid spate of rooftop fires - 31 Oct 2025 Safety concerns have been raised over Energy Secretary Ed Miliband’s plans to install solar panels across millions more British homes after a surge in house fires caused by the energy solution or their batteries.
According to data gathered by insurance company QBE, fire services were called out roughly every two days last year to incidents involving a solar panel.
The company found this marked a 60 per cent increase in the past two years. ... https://archive.li/Hm9B7 = same news from The Telegraph (paywalled). That's about 180 rooftop solar fire incidents per year out of 1.6 million in the UK in 2024. .
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adamw
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Nov 8 2025, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Nov 8 2025, 02:49 PM) . Fyi, ....... https://www.gbnews.com/politics/ed-miliband...fety-fears-fire - Ed Miliband’s solar panel drive sparks safety fears amid spate of rooftop fires - 31 Oct 2025 Safety concerns have been raised over Energy Secretary Ed Miliband’s plans to install solar panels across millions more British homes after a surge in house fires caused by the energy solution or their batteries.
According to data gathered by insurance company QBE, fire services were called out roughly every two days last year to incidents involving a solar panel.
The company found this marked a 60 per cent increase in the past two years. ... https://archive.li/Hm9B7 = same news from The Telegraph (paywalled). That's about 180 rooftop solar fire incidents per year out of 1.6 million in the UK in 2024. . Have you installed solar in your house? You seems to be evading this question.
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SUSlurkingaround
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Nov 8 2025, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Oct 20 2025, 03:16 PM) . Solar ATAP program will launch on 1 Dec 2025. Fyi, ....... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « https://www.biipower.com/latestnews/nid/168062/ - ATAP vs SELCO: Which One Should You Choose? - 24 Sep 2025https://solartech.com.my/news/guide-to-sola...solar-benefits/ - Guide To Solar ATAP : Lifetime Solar Benefits - 17 Sep 2025https://www.instagram.com/p/DPBVYhZE7Gb/ - ATAP with Battery.? - 25 Sep 2025trdenergy Why You Still Need a Battery Even with ATAP?
Both the battery and ATAP serve the same purpose — storing the extra solar energy generated in the morning for use at night. But their value is completely different.
🔋 Battery = The Current Trend ✔️ No worries about unstable policy changes — batteries always retain a near 1:1 value. ✔️ Even during a sudden blackout, your business/home keeps running without interruption.
📢 Example: Let’s say your solar system generates 50 kWh per day, paired with a 30 kWh battery. -Morning consumption: ~5 kWh (most households use less in the morning since people are out at work/school) -After morning use + charging the battery, you still have 15 kWh extra -The question: if your battery isn’t big enough, where does that 15 kWh go?
⭕ Answer: That’s when you export it to the TNB grid through Solar ATAP.
1️⃣ Battery -Requires upfront cost. -Advantage: nearly 1:1 offset. -Meaning: store 1 kWh in the day, offset almost the same 1 kWh at night.
2️⃣ ATAP (new scheme starting Dec 2025) -With quota, you can “store” excess electricity in the TNB grid for free. -But retrieval at night is not 1:1. It follows the System Marginal Price (SMP). -Equivalent to about a 1:0.5 offset (store 1 kWh, but at night it offsets only ~0.5 kWh of your bill).
👉 Smartest Strategy: Charge your battery first → then export the remaining solar to ATAP. Through this way, the battery secures high-value storage (near 1:1), while ATAP ensures no surplus energy is wasted.
Conclusion: ATAP is a nice bonus, but the battery is the core. Only by combining both to maximize the true value of solar energy.
📞 Contact us at https://wa.me/601157638386 or visit trdenergy.com to book your FREE consultation today. . NB: - I am not connected to any Solar Installer companies but am pro-Solar and "pound wise" (not penny foolish). Usable energy of the BESS/battery is 90% (= DoD), eg a 32kWh battery has a usable energy of 28.8kWh, eg battery auto-discharges from 100% to 10% or from 95% to 5% by it's BMS during night-time use. . QUOTE(adamw @ Nov 8 2025, 05:40 PM) Have you installed solar in your house? You seems to be evading this question.  Seems you are the first person (and a solar installer.?) on this thread asking me this question. I have not installed the costly solar in my landed home because my monthly TNB bill is <RM50 = not worth it bc ROI is >28 years if I install a RM15k 4kWp solar system and my monthly TNB bill is RM50. .
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MGM
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Nov 8 2025, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Nov 8 2025, 06:01 PM) Seems you are the first person (and a solar installer.?) on this thread asking me this question. I have not installed the costly solar in my landed home because my monthly TNB bill is <RM50 = not worth it bc ROI is >28 years if I install a RM15k 4kWp solar system and my monthly TNB bill is RM50. . Ada curi letrik?
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SUSlurkingaround
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Nov 8 2025, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE(MGM @ Nov 8 2025, 06:02 PM) . Ada curi letrik dan lombong bitcoin.? .
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SUSlurkingaround
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Nov 8 2025, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(adamw @ Nov 8 2025, 05:40 PM) Have you installed solar in your house? You seems to be evading this question.  QUOTE(MGM @ Nov 8 2025, 06:02 PM) . Should I "pound foolishly" go buy a >RM100k new EV car to increase my monthly TNB bill to >RM150, so that I need to install solar in my house.? .
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virtualgay
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Nov 10 2025, 01:39 PM
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My area quite cloudy and gloomy - solar generation is quite low less than 50% from my usual
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