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post Sep 1 2024, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Sep 1 2024, 12:31 AM)
Cant self consumption first?
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Can. But monitor your Tnb meter. If it is an old analogue meter, just on it.

If it’s digital, then take note on the import if it double record.
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post Sep 1 2024, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Sep 1 2024, 10:02 AM)
How to see import double record?
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In the morning, when u switch on, the generation should cover your morning usage. Meaning that the import should not be increasing in value or it will increase very very slowly than usual. If u see it speed up increase, then better switch off.
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post Sep 1 2024, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Sep 1 2024, 02:34 PM)
why need to manually switched off at 4pm?
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Coz just want to try out the setup I think. Better off it until welcome nem
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post Sep 1 2024, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Sep 1 2024, 05:18 PM)
With smart meter they can tell got unauthorized export... Okie....
Most that install using the nem3.0, using contractors, also have seda  approval right?

I should stop trying to find excuses, anyhow being patient is a virtue.

Main problem is those secretly connect without applying for NEM.
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Not all digital meter is smart meter.

Some don’t record export. Those u can on at your own risk for self consumption.

If u check ur meter, it doesn’t have the 51 reading, most likely no export record.
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post Sep 1 2024, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Sep 1 2024, 07:26 PM)
If the meter got the 51 reading then no need to change meter?
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Supposedly no need. But I have a friend who got changed too.
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post Sep 2 2024, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Sep 2 2024, 11:42 AM)
Quite surprised that it's not that far off from a 9.68kwp with 8kw inverter system. You got a chart of production throughout the day for good n bad days?
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Different setups. Different roof orientation. It’s difficult to compare head to head with the figure. Lots of factors influencing the output.
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post Sep 3 2024, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(g0lightly @ Sep 3 2024, 07:43 AM)
assuming no major failure after warranty period,  450% over 25 years from rm500 mthly savings.. break even on 5th year
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10 years only. After that no more saving this much.
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post Sep 3 2024, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(manx @ Sep 3 2024, 09:29 AM)
thats interesting... i am on the same boat with you. here is the wiring diagram...
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It shouldn’t trip with hms series on 3 phase.

Hms can be used for single and 3 phase.
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post Sep 3 2024, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(manx @ Sep 3 2024, 10:31 AM)
So, after seeing some feedbacks on microinverter setups, are there any suggestions on either single-phase or three-phase microinverter is better to use on three-phase house? Is the power export based on load per phase?? Does it mean, I may be exporting power because the generated power being connected on different phase while consumption at different phase? Or the import/export meter will be smart enough to calculate?

Not much different except for the MPPTs.. HMS comes with 4 MPPTs while HMT only 2MPPTs.

Also maybe HMT has better load optimization.
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Hmt is more sensitive to grid outage. Hms is better in this sense.
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post Sep 3 2024, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Sep 3 2024, 11:53 AM)
It is of course better to use 3-phase  microinverter if possible because it is more balance and future proof once the NEM lapse.
On another note.
The smart meter by TnB does not calculate per phase, but the overall. My understanding based on 3 phase string inverter is that it will output the electricity to 3 phase equally, but load in our housewhole is not equal, so in the end some phase maybe exporting while other phase maybe importing but the TnB meter will record the total of 3 phase. It will not show individual phase load or generation.
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Exactly. As load is different for the phases, it’s better to use single phase inverters so that you can add in the future to the phase you need to use more. For example, my ev charging phase is hook up with more inverters than the other phases. So it can fully offset the usage without triggering import when I charge in the morning.




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post Sep 3 2024, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(mrstohchu @ Sep 3 2024, 12:13 PM)
Installer said, for my situation, it's because that microinverter signal couldnt reach the DTU so no data sent. It is actually still working. In other words, DTU displays real time data. So anything that signal couldnt send through, data will not be captured. Meaning that the yield i see on the app will be lower than what my system is actually generating.

I have moved my DTU to a more central location yesterday. Today seems better, no more offline issue. Still monitoring.

There wasnt much info on HMT available online so it was a judgement call to go w HMT. Figured might as well go 3phase to 3phase. Must be a reason they came out w 3phase, if not could have just offered 1phase solution for all if they both work the same. I dont mind the additional safety features, to me, better be safe than sorry.

If you dont mind me asking - what kind of anticipated issue? Mine's 2.5 storey and i have panels on both 2nd and 3rd storey roof...
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Actually dtu will get back the previous data thst is not transmitted.

So let’s say if u off ur dtu, ur system should work and then once the dtu connects to the inverter, it will sync back the lost data.

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post Sep 3 2024, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(meors @ Sep 3 2024, 03:23 PM)
so for 3 phase HMT or HMS?
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Both can. But preferably hms. 3 independent system is way better than 1 integrated one.

If u check hoymiles website, it says both can. This is what hoymiles said about hms.

“Yes, you can either choose our HMT-2250 high-powered three-phase microinverter or use our single-phase products to form a three-phase system.“

If I am not mistaken , microinverter is designed to be single phase. But this single phase is For single and three phase houses.

But overtime, for large scale projects like factories, they come out with three phase. To make installation easier for installer.

But like any other three phase inverters, they are more sensitive to grid voltage, frequency and one of them goes offchart, the setup will shutdown completely.

As for hms, they are independent of each other, so one problematic phase will not affect the generation of other microinverter in other phases. Less downtime.
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post Sep 3 2024, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(manx @ Sep 3 2024, 04:38 PM)
based on the datasheet, HMT even though for 3phase, but it is more suitable for commercial/industrial applications.
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Correct. Go for hms series. You will benefit more especially if u have ev later. U can add more micro to thst phase or reroute one or two micro to that phase if the usage is big.
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post Sep 3 2024, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(BaRT @ Sep 3 2024, 04:18 PM)
really??
coz my neibour say if the dtu offline, tnb meter will not count your export. And it has happened to him.
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Dtu offline, the data can’t go to the cloud. But it doesn’t affect the import export. Coz dtu is wireless and does not connect to the Tnb meter.
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post Sep 3 2024, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Sep 3 2024, 06:07 PM)
I'm not too sure if we are on the same page.
But I don't think the TNB meter calculate each phase individually, even if you charge your EV in the phase that has now solar generation and if importing but if your net electricity usage is lower than generation, it will still consider as export. That is what I think
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Oh. I mean after nem.but even Now it will be useful to avoid the icpt charges. For those that borders the 1500kwh.
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post Sep 3 2024, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(g0lightly @ Sep 3 2024, 06:07 PM)
All of the components, DTU connection, daisy chain connection, connectors, zero accessibility to rooftop, 3 storey that requires skylift, it’s just my own evaluation I don’t like uncertainties. But I do recognize the advantages of the technology and dc conversion and decentralisation
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Actually, accessibility to rooftop is always the problem for solar users irregardless of any system. Problems with solar can range from connectors, cables panels and inverter, and most of the time it requires skylift if the roof is inaccessible.

So to me I feel it’s important to find installers who are willing to cover the skylift and labour under their maintenance warranty. For my case specifically, the installer promised 6 years of free maintenance including all the cost of skylift.

I do notice that There are some thst offer 10 years on labour, but exclude skylift. Which is also okay.

So it’s important to check what they offer after installation too.
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post Sep 3 2024, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Sep 3 2024, 08:39 PM)
Got.
I have four battery packs.

280ah x 51.2v = 14336wh (14kWh)
280ah x 51.2v = 14336wh (14kWh)
314ah x 51.2v = 16076wh (16kWh)
200ah x 51.2v = 10240wh (10kWh)

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How do the battery look like? Are they look presentable? Or like those messy wiring type ?
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post Sep 4 2024, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(BaRT @ Sep 4 2024, 10:35 AM)
Guys, there’s one thing I want to understand. Let’s say my solar panels generate 300 kWh during the afternoon. The energy generated will feed my grid first for my own consumption, right? If I only consume 200 kWh during the afternoon, the remaining 100 kWh will be exported.

So, my question is, will the TNB bill show an export of only 100 kWh instead of 300 kWh? If yes, this mean TNB bill export information reflect the net amount, not the total energy generated from the solar power. Am I right?
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Correct. Tnb meter will only measure what is sent out. Unlike Fit setup, which record every drop of kwh u get from the sun.
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post Sep 5 2024, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Sep 5 2024, 12:53 PM)
Anybody using Huawei inverter here?

My MPPT1 and 2 has a huge difference in terms of voltage. Both have equal number of panels. I do not think it’s normal. Want to exchange notes
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They are facing two different side are they?

Thst could explain the voltage difference.
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post Sep 5 2024, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Sep 5 2024, 09:52 PM)
Same side. No shading whatsoever, terrace house all level. I will ask them how they wired the panels later.

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I check morning, noon, evening. MPPT1 is always higher than MPPT2 in terms of voltage, amps will be close.
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Where is the rest of the panel? So little panels?

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